absolutely amazing post itt

Lol at dealing "non action hands to retain player base". Because if there's anything gamblers hate, it's action.

lol

I have personally never seen this. Is this true? Can anyone confirm seeing this?

Not that this has anything to do with the machine but we used to have a charity poker room here in Cleveland before the casino came. We had shuffle masters and volunteer dealers who usually knew nothing about poker. Some nights, the machines didnt work (just at a table or two) and a player would hand shuffle the other deck while we played the hand. This is shady on its own but I will continue... I hand shuffled the deck a lot but one time I "set the deck" in a matter of 30 seconds bc it was the last hand of the night. Not sure what I did but I set AA KK AQ QQ TT and then random hands and set the flop to something action like. I knew it was 10 players and no cutting so it was easy to do. This was a home game atmosphere and when the hand was being dealt I folded QQ face up! People asked why I would do that and I said I set the deck and it should be a misdeal. I told them again, misdeal, dont play this hand. NOBODY LISTENED and they all wanted to play. Of course AA and KK and TT and AK all thought they had great hands. Stupid people.


I dont really have a point here. I am just saying that even if the machines could induce action, people would still play. Its sick how humans think about things. You can change the dice in a craps game to 7 heavy dice and people would still play. I dont buy into conspiracy's but anything is possible. I havent seen this personally so I cant comment with any experience or intelligence.

There is a new machine out with this capability. This machine is not commonly in use in poker (the tech has been around for a while in the pit games).

I saw these machines when they put them in at the Palms. I was told they were still in testing and there were only about 30 of them being used in the US at that time.

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The latest "deckmate 2" shuffler is advertised as having optical card recognition. The question then remains, how secure is the code in the microcontroller?

I'd think any astute programmer could reverse engineer the code to allow for a "predicted" result. At the very lest, the entire MPU could be replaced with a modified one.

What say ye, shufflemaster? How secure is the MPU and code in the new DeckMate 2 ??

Yes these things do rig the deck, I've seen it directly at my local casino at the table games. This is a newer casino and they have actual touch screens next to each table. I actual got a glimpse of the screen and it has a complete graphic of each seated player at the table. They actual have sensors on bonus bet so they know not to payout. These machines I heard cost around 60k and are rented by the casino. It was funny cause I was playing texas holdem table game, and a black diamond guest came in which is the highest level in the casino. These people have lost tons at the casino, and what do you know the first had he's dealt was AA, lol I couldn't believe it.

If these things weren't rigged, the dealer would do a hand shuffle once its outta the machine and cut the deck. I have never seen this done at two casinos locally.

all players need to get together and insist that the deck is cut after being brought into the game.
it is not an unreasonable request.

read my post # 140 above.

I was looking for info about deckmate 2. Because In the casino were i play they use this type. And these machines constantly deal flops that are paired. I was in vegas for two weeks and havend seen it so often there, they had the firts deckmate, not the two.

wtf is this, move this to pornhub

But the rig might be set up to be in action AFTER the dealers cut.

I've never heard of the deck not being cut after the shuffle. Where is this taking place, and is it still happening?

If this is happening, what is the reason for it?

because poker is rigged obviously

you realize you can bet on 7 in craps, right?

How it works.... 1) the shuffle machine orders the deck and pre-sets the cut. 2) Innocent dealer grabs the deck and cuts on the pre-set cut indentation cause its EZ 3) the players receive their cards and the community cards are dealt 4) someone in the control room upstairs reads the 3 card flop from the camera placed above the table, and keys the cards identities into the computer which is being fed the deck order by the shuffling machine. 5) Since the computer knows the 52 card order of the deck, once the flop is keyed in, the software reveals to the operator what cards are in each players hands at the table. The exact nature of the dealer SINGLE cut DOES NOT alter this known order. 6) The operator speaks into the ear piece of the proprietary player at the table what the turn and river will be, plus the contents of the players hands who have not folded. Alternatively, the operator forwards an image of all 5 community cards and each non folding players hand to the prop players cell phone at the table (think Mike Postile - Stones). The Prop player games the hands as he sees fit, losing intentionally on occasion to conceal his/her advantage. In private rooms like Stones, the room owner and all conspirators split up the ill-gotten gains. In Public casino poker rooms, the poker room manager, security room operator, and the prop player share in the kill. The casino benefits by not having to pay the conspirators their fair market value. How prevalent is the practice?? In Vegas, I believe it's happening at most casinos most of the time, and I've been victim to it for years to the tune of 10's of thousands of $.

Seems legit

This

Like anyone's gonna read that WOT

Zwerner, though he may have been in on the scam in the beginning, has turned the corner and is doing good work trying to make everyone aware of the level of cheating that is occurring so that it can be arrested. If you are currently in on the scam. Or you were at one time and you would like to relieve your conscious, drop Jack a line. He'd be happy to guide you to people who can help you to safety. http://stoppokercheating.com

Colon Puddle and FTMT.... U talking to me???