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Is running 60% of EV over 800k hands standard? Is running 60% of EV over 800k hands standard?

10-23-2009 , 05:41 PM
I am a Cap reg at FTP. Mostly 5/10 and 10/20. I play... a lot. Over my past 800k hands, I have a nice little 70k differential between my EV (200k) and actual winnings (130k).

This bad run is largely based on 500k hands of 5/10.

Granted, SD is higher for a Cap player than a deep stacker (generally). My own SD is 26BB/100. As I said in the title, I have earned roughly 60-65% of my EV over a **** ton of hands.

Am I being ridiculous or have I earned my morbid depression and paranoia?
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10-23-2009 , 05:44 PM
garph

in b4 standard
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10-23-2009 , 05:44 PM
Stopped reading here:
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Originally Posted by sexyjesus2
I am a Cap reg at FTP.
Is running 60% of EV over 800k hands standard? Quote
10-23-2009 , 05:47 PM
graph or it didn't happen.
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10-23-2009 , 05:49 PM
in before how do i post a graph post
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10-23-2009 , 05:59 PM
Listen, this was a simple question. If I could post my graph, I would. I am having some technical difficulties with my HM.

Bottom line, I'm not looking to either brag or garner sympathy. I am looking for some clarification. I would just like to know if I have experienced bad variance or extremely bad variance.

My only peer whom I know has experienced a similar run is Googly Moogly. Anybody else?
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10-23-2009 , 06:02 PM
Why don't you post in a strategy section then.
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10-23-2009 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sexyjesus2
Listen, this was a simple question. If I could post my graph, I would.
welcome to the world of bbv, never expect them to answer u in a normal way.

and sry, cant answer this but I guess it happens and since ur up over 100k still, u can be happy with your play and the upswing will only be a matter of time
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10-23-2009 , 06:07 PM
i have never run even remotely close to EV in anything so i would say its standard bad variance
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10-23-2009 , 06:13 PM
lol u think 26BB/100 is more variance than a standard non cap player??? i play FR and my SDBB/100 is 44
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10-23-2009 , 06:14 PM
pretty sure variance is lower for cap games
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10-23-2009 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sdfsdf
pretty sure variance is lower for cap games
no its not actually. shorter stack games increase variance for skilled players
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10-23-2009 , 06:22 PM
nvm
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10-23-2009 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakejackjake
no its not actually. shorter stack games increase variance for skilled players
No. Variance does not change when your winrate changes. Variance is larger when playing deeper rather than shallower.
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10-23-2009 , 06:31 PM
You swing more buy ins when shortstacking. That is increased variance isnt it? Explain how deep games have more variance when considering swings in terms of buy ins and no $'s won or lost which is how it should be done. When shortstacked you are forced to take smaller edges and that increases swings. Maybe variance by its true definition is bigger in deeper games but it is used to relate to swings in terms of buy ins in poker, and shortstacking has bigger swings in terms of buy ins.
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10-23-2009 , 06:38 PM
why would you consider a player losing 2 300$ buyins at 5/10 or 2 1000$ buyins at 5/10 as equal 'swings'?
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10-23-2009 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerMes
why would you consider a player losing 2 300$ buyins at 5/10 and 2 1000$ buyins at 5/10 as equal 'swings'?
i wouldnt think of them as equal. what im saying is i believe the cap is at a low enough amount of bb being 30 that is forces you to take many smaller edges that can easily skew results over a big sample.

comparing swings in terms of $ doesnt make much sense either
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10-23-2009 , 06:42 PM
To whomever claimed to have a SD of 44BB/100: yeah right. I find it tough to believe that you are a winning player. That variance is ridiculous. I would love to see you prove me wrong.

Short stack involves more variance than deep, unless you shove all the time when you play deep. Because that's not usually an optimal strategy for deep, it holds that short stacking is more variable.

Since no one actually responded to my question, I assume that few people have actually run this bad.
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10-23-2009 , 07:09 PM
so let me get this right.. short stacking has more variance than full buying.. and a lower win rate.. the best of both worlds
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10-23-2009 , 09:18 PM
[ ] I see garphs itt
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10-23-2009 , 09:23 PM
you call yourself sexy jesus and posted some sort of complicated mathematical type of question in bbv. were you really expecting serious, well-informed answers?
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10-23-2009 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sexyjesus2
Bottom line, I'm not looking to either brag or garner sympathy. I am looking for some clarification.
lol
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10-23-2009 , 09:29 PM
in before worst downer of your life
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10-23-2009 , 09:34 PM
you know its standard. so why ask, u wont get any sympathies here cap monkey
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10-23-2009 , 09:37 PM
[ ] sample size
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