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Old 07-23-2010, 03:39 PM   #26
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re: Rossa85 degens off 25k stake roll and disappears / [Resolved]

Right, I wouldnt suggest kicking ass. Just saying your options are limited and plastering his info all over the net is your best option at this point.

www.TIMOROSSAISASCAMMER.com imo

And personally Id think the 25k is what he owes you unless he sent some back or something. But to each his own.

And I just wanna say you're handling this a lot better then I would. But im sure you have a lot more money then me and its all relative. Good luck sir.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:53 PM   #27
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re: Rossa85 degens off 25k stake roll and disappears / [Resolved]

He has a Studivz (German Facebook) account ... maybe he will answer there?

Or you can message some of his friends to see where Timo is at.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:05 PM   #28
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He has a Studivz (German Facebook) account ... maybe he will answer there?

Or you can message some of his friends to see where Timo is at.
It is obvious that he doesn't answer because he doesn't want to answer and not because he doesn't get the PM or IM.

And he only has 4 friends at studivz so i guess he isn't very activ there.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:06 PM   #29
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That sucks and all, but man I really have a hard time feeling bad for people who get ripped off like this.
really?... i mean, just really?
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:46 PM   #30
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It is obvious that he doesn't answer because he doesn't want to answer and not because he doesn't get the PM or IM.

And he only has 4 friends at studivz so i guess he isn't very activ there.
Just throwing in any random info that might help.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:51 PM   #31
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Just throwing in any random info that might help.
Yes, any info like this is greatly appreciated. Ty
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:08 PM   #32
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Ull that sucks man but i just dont understand why ppl take such a big risks staking random ppl they don't know over the internet. I mean you dont know the guy in real life yet your willing to stake him for 25k . There have already been numerous cases here on BBV where ppl got ripped off for great sums off money yet there are still ppl willing to trust complete strangers.

Anyway i wish you all the best in getting your money back
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:10 PM   #33
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fn degenerates are such a pain in the ass to deal with it. i love how it seems your chances of getting the money go DOWN the more grief you give them.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:14 PM   #34
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gl OP
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:35 PM   #35
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Yes, any info like this is greatly appreciated. Ty
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:52 PM   #36
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Sucks. I am guessing you are from the Us?
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:24 PM   #37
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are you close with "pooruser" or the guy he lost to HU PLO? Is rossa close with them?
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:10 PM   #38
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Ull that sucks man but i just dont understand why ppl take such a big risks staking random ppl they don't know over the internet. I mean you dont know the guy in real life yet your willing to stake him for 25k . There have already been numerous cases here on BBV where ppl got ripped off for great sums off money yet there are still ppl willing to trust complete strangers.

Anyway i wish you all the best in getting your money back
I mean any stake you take on is going to have SOME risks. TBH, when we signed Rossa it was probably the stake I had the least concerns about.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:13 PM   #39
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Sucks. I am guessing you are from the Us?
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are you close with "pooruser" or the guy he lost to HU PLO? Is rossa close with them?
No. Pooruser is a solid reg at my stakes. When rossa85 played him it wasn't really an issue. I looked over the hands and he ran lolbad. Like I said we talked the next day and everything was cool and he made the money back within like two days. He easily could have made 10k vs pooruser.

I actually have talked to one of the people he played in that HU PLO debacle. The guy took about 2k off Rossa and said he was 3-betting 100% of hands. He essentially "lost it" and just gave the money away. The guy gave me a bunch of info and even offered dinner in Vegas as a sign of good faith.

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Old 07-23-2010, 07:23 PM   #40
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Ull that sucks man but i just dont understand why ppl take such a big risks staking random ppl they don't know over the internet. I mean you dont know the guy in real life yet your willing to stake him for 25k . There have already been numerous cases here on BBV where ppl got ripped off for great sums off money yet there are still ppl willing to trust complete strangers.

Anyway i wish you all the best in getting your money back
$25,000 is relative concept, for you it might be alot, for others it might be few buy-ins. Rossa85 was far from "random people" imo, one of the best midstakes heads-up regulars probably, known and active 2+2 user, has played & earned alot.

Yeah sh*t happened, but don't be results-oriented, he was pretty solid candidate for a stake.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:34 PM   #41
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Holy crap, PTR has him down $86k at 5/10 6-max. Not criticising your decision, but didn't this, his PLO habbit and him already having blown his role despite being a big HU winner not set off any alarm bells when you considered staking him?

I just couldn't face giving money to someone who seems to have as little self control as Rossa.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:36 PM   #42
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re: Rossa85 degens off 25k stake roll and disappears / [Resolved]

Karma will get him, GL OP!
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:44 PM   #43
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re: Rossa85 degens off 25k stake roll and disappears / [Resolved]

this sucks, jimmy/biggie. gl getting the $$$$
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:49 PM   #44
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Sounds like your the bigger fish Op...essentially you gave him 25k. People should stop treating poker like an underground criminal enterprise...get a signed legal contract before you give somebody large amounts of money ffs.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:52 PM   #45
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sorry to hear about your loss OP. Fwiw I used to talk to rossa somewhat frequently and he also came across as a happy optimistic and trustworthy guy. He never once mentioned being staked or losing money, he always came across like he was enjoying and doing his thing : (

Out of curiosity, what happened to the 300k he earned? Someone who's made that much and needs staking would raise red flags, altho I can see why you would want to invest in him
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:40 PM   #46
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sigh, gl OP
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:18 PM   #47
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gl OP, I feel for you. I seriously suggest you consider confronting this mother****er in person. $22k is a lot of money and if you consider the money gone it would be incredibly satisfying to see his reaction when he sees you. It will also convince him of your seriousness about the issue.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:27 PM   #48
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this is brutal, bl op

i've staked degens before with mixed results too..
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:32 PM   #49
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I hope that OP gets his money back here, and I think it makes a lot of sense to.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:26 AM   #50
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i agree about waste of talent, he was a good player. pretty crazy that this went down
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