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08-30-2008 , 06:17 PM
oh, i take that back.
i think you misread the screenshot. you are credited in full for your total prize sum of zero dollars for those freerolls.
08-30-2008 , 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
1010 was in late position and in late position or on cut off button or blinds,10 10 against other limpin ins is like 90% the best hand preflop on the table.
Also if go all in preflop,and get called by a bunch of overcards,very likely lots of overcards are shared by same players thus reducing their outs to hit flop and beat me.


which is exactly what happened,and I did have the best hand preflop,and I did get all my chips in preflop on the best hand,and got sucked out on considering all the reduced outs from shared paint cards.

And so this was me getting totally donk beat here.No way in hell would I have called my 1010 all in preflop,with what the other players had,considering how much of a ultimate tight a s s I had been.


Also u said that I would be drawing to 2 outs if I was against overcards,thats wrong.

with any pocket pair,even 22 altho middle pockets 1010 on up top AA are much better.A pocket pair doesnt have to hit the flop.Overcards do have to hit the flop.IF the Overcards dont hit the flop,then even if the pocket pairs dont hit the flop,the pocket pair wins,and the overcards lose,because PP dont have to hit flop to win,whereas overcards do.


Overcards are way to highly overvalued.


Mike DH

umm. i thought you started this thread for constructive criticism, you finally got a decent reply then spent 5 god-awfully written paragraphs defending your play. you are the biggest tool ever.

i'd like to challenge you to a play money freezeout. my 1000 playchips vs your 1000 playchips you cant leave till one of us is empty.
08-30-2008 , 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by a5wantinga10
MIKE........................... I SHALL BITE THE BAIT........

you are 37. you should have a job and money. you should be therefore playing games where you actually have to pay money to enter. if you did this, you could win lots of $$$ if you won.


and u assume I havent done this:I deposited 25 dollars and thru extreme bad luck variance,and admittedly bad bankroll management,lost it all.
Also I have played in 50 12 dollar buy ins 75 player tourneys 25/50 start blinds 13 to 15 minute blinds,at real money casinos offline over the last 4 years and have 17 final tables 13 cashes.


What u dont get is that even if people are employed,some dont make enough money to have a big bankroll that they can build up.It takes a bankroll to build a bankroll and some cant afford a bankroll,because of bills etc.


freerolls are for people who cannot tie their own shoelaces. if you had any talent, you would be playing for decent stakes with real money.


wrong again.I have played some of the best players in freerolls(along with some of the worst as well)Chris ferguson himself played in nothing but freerolls for 6 months to build a small bankroll that he then took like 6 to 9 more months to turn into 10k in his zero to 10k experiment.


Also some of the very best players play only in freerolls because they dont have the bankroll to play in higher stakes.


Also some of us live in places or states or countries like Spokane WA USA where I live,where gov christine gregoire has made it illegal(a class c felony punishable up to 5 years in prison) to deposit money and then use that money to play poker online.Playing in freerolls is still legal,and can use money from those freerolls to play poker online.


So based on this yor comment about freerolls and the rest of what yor saying is trollistic and stupid.


take this **** to pocketfives.com or the MTT forums here where they love idiots with 30 bb stacks.


This topic is about telling how u are doing in poker,and its about the experiment I am doing,and its for people to make constructive comments about their game others game and my game.


this is right in line with the forum section Bad beats and variance and bragging about wins and complaining about bad beats section.


So this thread topic is in the right place idiot,if it wasnt idiot,this topic would be locked,it wouldnt have stars on it,I would get infraction points and or banned according to the sticky moderator post about what acceptable to post thread and topic on and what is not.


you are terrible. i am 21 and would murder you in any format. most of BBV is under 25 and would do the same. be very ashamed.



No I am not terrible,not the best either.I am on a scale of 1-10 a 6.7-7.3 poker player.Also when u can come as so very close,but just barely short of to playing on TV and millions of dollars in real money come see me.I seriously doubt u have,as trolls and flamers are usually bad players who like to make themselves feel better like they are a better play and like they dont suck,trolling other players,and not making constructive comments in a discussion of strategy and play etc.



Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
my true OPR ranking would be something like 50k to 100k out of 70000 players.
Yeah, somewhere around 70K


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
In this situation OPR doesnt recognize that u beat out early
Who doesnt
08-30-2008 , 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eckenz88476
i'd like to challenge you to a play money freezeout. my 1000 playchips vs your 1000 playchips you cant leave till one of us is empty.
OP isn't rolled for a 1000 chip grudge match imo.
08-30-2008 , 06:38 PM
oh lord, lots of words.. cliffnotes?
08-30-2008 , 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eckenz88476
umm. i thought you started this thread for constructive criticism, you finally got a decent reply then spent 5 god-awfully written paragraphs defending your play. you are the biggest tool ever.

i'd like to challenge you to a play money freezeout. my 1000 playchips vs your 1000 playchips you cant leave till one of us is empty.

Just because u tried to make constructive comments doesnt mean yor right.Sometimes I am gona listen to a person and apply what they are saying if it makes sense to me,is reasonable logical etc.Sometimes I am not gonna listen to apply what a person is saying if its illogical,unreasonable,and doesnt make sense.


If I or anyone else makes an constructive comments,people are not always gona listen agree or apply what is said.And just because I disagreed with what u said defending my play,because I disagree with you,is not discussing and debating poker strategy,if u cant handle poker discussion and debate yor in the wrong place if u expect people to instantly agree and apply what u say.U have to convince me and others as to why u might be right.U have to defend yor points.U have to sell yor points,if u want me and others to buy into what yor saying.


Also heads up doesnt prove much as its to easy for 1 person to totally outplay the other person and the other person to suck out a bunch of times and win.heads up is much more volatile and has a lot more variance then sit n go 9 table 6 table tourneys.


The best way to see who is better is to end up playing at each other in a tourney a number of times,and to compare results.And even that doesnt prove to much.And playing against each other to prove who is better,is not going to make our points.Only good solid debate and discussion is going to do that.


Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 06:46 PM
Quote:

MIKE........................... I SHALL BITE THE BAIT........

you are 37. you should have a job and money. you should be therefore playing games where you actually have to pay money to enter. if you did this, you could win lots of $$$ if you won.



and u assume I havent done this:I deposited 25 dollars and thru extreme bad luck variance,and admittedly bad bankroll management,lost it all.
Also I have played in 50 12 dollar buy ins 75 player tourneys 25/50 start blinds 13 to 15 minute blinds,at real money casinos offline over the last 4 years and have 17 final tables 13 cashes.



What u dont get is that even if people are employed,some dont make enough money to have a big bankroll that they can build up.It takes a bankroll to build a bankroll and some cant afford a bankroll,because of bills etc.



freerolls are for people who cannot tie their own shoelaces. if you had any talent, you would be playing for decent stakes with real money.



wrong again.I have played some of the best players in freerolls(along with some of the worst as well)Chris ferguson himself played in nothing but freerolls for 6 months to build a small bankroll that he then took like 6 to 9 more months to turn into 10k in his zero to 10k experiment.


Also some of the very best players play only in freerolls because they dont have the bankroll to play in higher stakes.


Also some of us live in places or states or countries like Spokane WA USA where I live,where gov christine gregoire has made it illegal(a class c felony punishable up to 5 years in prison) to deposit money and then use that money to play poker online.Playing in freerolls is still legal,and can use money from those freerolls to play poker online.


So based on this yor comment about freerolls and the rest of what yor saying is trollistic and stupid.



take this **** to pocketfives.com or the MTT forums here where they love idiots with 30 bb stacks.



This topic is about telling how u are doing in poker,and its about the experiment I am doing,and its for people to make constructive comments about their game others game and my game.


this is right in line with the forum section Bad beats and variance and bragging about wins and complaining about bad beats section.


So this thread topic is in the right place idiot,if it wasnt idiot,this topic would be locked,it wouldnt have stars on it,I would get infraction points and or banned according to the sticky moderator post about what acceptable to post thread and topic on and what is not.



you are terrible. i am 21 and would murder you in any format. most of BBV is under 25 and would do the same. be very ashamed.



No I am not terrible,not the best either.I am on a scale of 1-10 a 6.7-7.3 poker player.Also when u can come as so very close,but just barely short of to playing on TV and millions of dollars in real money come see me.I seriously doubt u have,as trolls and flamers are usually bad players who like to make themselves feel better like they are a better play and like they dont suck,trolling other players,and not making constructive comments in a discussion of strategy and play etc.
wanted to make sure this was not missed
08-30-2008 , 06:50 PM
play me heads up 1000 chips each. If I win you stop posting here and move the junk to pocketfives.com. if not things are only going to get worse here. i'm doing it for your safety.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
Just because u tried to make constructive comments doesnt mean yor right.Sometimes I am gona listen to a person and apply what they are saying if it makes sense to me,is reasonable logical etc.Sometimes I am not gonna listen to apply what a person is saying if its illogical,unreasonable,and doesnt make sense.


If I or anyone else makes an constructive comments,people are not always gona listen agree or apply what is said.And just because I disagreed with what u said defending my play,because I disagree with you,is not discussing and debating poker strategy,if u cant handle poker discussion and debate yor in the wrong place if u expect people to instantly agree and apply what u say.U have to convince me and others as to why u might be right.U have to defend yor points.U have to sell yor points,if u want me and others to buy into what yor saying.


Also heads up doesnt prove much as its to easy for 1 person to totally outplay the other person and the other person to suck out a bunch of times and win.heads up is much more volatile and has a lot more variance then sit n go 9 table 6 table tourneys.


The best way to see who is better is to end up playing at each other in a tourney a number of times,and to compare results.And even that doesnt prove to much.And playing against each other to prove who is better,is not going to make our points.Only good solid debate and discussion is going to do that.


Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 06:52 PM
Mike DH, I like your view on poker. Due to you I just won a freeroll, and guess what?

I'm playing the 250k guaranteed with millions of dollars live on TV!!!!

I'll keep you guys informed on my 0$ to millions of dollars quest.
08-30-2008 , 06:56 PM
Mike in all seriousness, when you play freerolls you should expect bad play from others. If they were any good they would be playing for real money. You will never be able to improve your game until you move into playing for real money.
08-30-2008 , 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainBusto
oh, i take that back.
i think you misread the screenshot. you are credited in full for your total prize sum of zero dollars for those freerolls.
I am not talking about zero dollars thing(well in a way I was since I have cashed in tourneys that I havent gotten credit for thus my total prize sum of zero dollars is off and wrong)


I am talking about how yor rank out of 700,000 online players,should be based on getting credit for almost cashing and how far u go deep into a tourney and how well u play should be measured and should give credit for rank among 700,000 players.


If that were the case that OPR did that(and it doesnt do that)then instead of being ranked at about 199,000 out of 700,000 over the last 5 years since 2003,I would be ranked something like 50,000 to 100000 out of 700,000 over those 5 years.Thus is the reason why OPR isnt accurate.


OPR is only accurate as a measure of how good a player is when a player deposits 1k each and every year,and plays in a lot of real money buy in tourneys year after year,and then is ranked accordingly to how well that player did over those years.


OPR is not a good measurement of how good or bad freerollers and very small microstakes players,because of all the variance and bad luck people usually experience at those freeroll and microstakes levels.


Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 06:59 PM
5 star thread for all the wrong reasons...
08-30-2008 , 07:08 PM


NO TROLLING OFF TOPIC POST.


IF THIS KEEPS UP VIOLATERS WILL BE REPORTED TO MODS AND INFRACTION PENALTIES GIVEN OUT

THERE WILL BE NO OFF TOPIC IN THIS THREAD, THE THREAD WHERE I TALK ABOUT THE POKERS.
08-30-2008 , 07:08 PM
This is one of those threads where we have to find the delicate balance where we berate OP enough to really enjoy it and keep the thread alive without scaring him off or getting it locked. Good luck all.
08-30-2008 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
Yeah, somewhere around 70K


Whatever Jack ass u know dam well I meant ranked 50k to 100k out of 700k

Who doesnt

Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
This is one of those threads where we have to find the delicate balance where we berate OP enough to really enjoy it and keep the thread alive without scaring him off or getting it locked. Good luck all.
When I am done responding to all u jack a s s trollers and flamers

your gona get reported and banned

Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SatSur
Mike DH, I like your view on poker. Due to you I just won a freeroll, and guess what?

I'm playing the 250k guaranteed with millions of dollars live on TV!!!!

I'll keep you guys informed on my 0$ to millions of dollars quest.

Hey thats great news and am happy for ya.If I helped out in any small way,thats nice.


Hope u continue to do well.


This is the kind of post this thread and topic was created for.This thread and topic was created so that this person and others and me can tell how we are doing,and for mine and others poker experiments like chris fergusson's zero to 10k experiment,and for constructive comments debate discussion on strategy on players game.


This is not the place to troll flame etc.


and such childish immature behavior can and will get u banned


Thanks again for posting this great post


Mike DH
08-30-2008 , 07:21 PM
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I am a such a very sucky player
i think we've all learned that by now

Quote:
This is not the place to troll flame etc.
actually it kind of is

Quote:
and such childish immature behavior can and will get u banned
over under on you getting banned before any one in this thread?
08-30-2008 , 07:22 PM
http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com...play62331.html


He is serious. We dealt with him already, Have fun with this 2+2.

It. Won't. End.

Yep, made an account just to post in this thread.

Edit : I'm also from Washington, so stop with the bull "I can't deposit"

Last edited by Loopholes; 08-30-2008 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Adding Insults
08-30-2008 , 07:23 PM
[x] OP will be the only person banned when this is all over
08-30-2008 , 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeal_DH
Whatever Jack ass u know dam well I meant ranked 50k to 100k out of 700k
Well of course I did, but at least you know someone read your post, even if it was just to make fun of you. Its the best you can hope for.
08-30-2008 , 07:25 PM
There is no way to end this, if you stop posting, he will continue to post. He will also be giving out advice to other members of your forums. No, I'm not kidding.
08-30-2008 , 07:26 PM
the last post (by a Moderator) in his awesome thread on FTP that is now locked:

"This trainwreck is done.

Mikah, posting 20 hands in one post is not helpful. You remind me of another player on another forum who just posts random hands he's played with little rhyme or reason behind it. Every time someone tries to explain to him why he's playing these badly, he either argues with a large group or just ignores the criticism and posts more hands.

If you want to post one hand per thread and discuss the merits of a play with an open mind, fine.

Also, the "threat" wasn't a threat. If he said, "I'm going to kick you in the head until you're dead." then it's a threat. As it stands, he said, "OMG I want to kick this guy until he is dead." He wants to, not he's going to. There's a difference there. Smile"
08-30-2008 , 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilkain
Mike in all seriousness, when you play freerolls you should expect bad play from others. If they were any good they would be playing for real money. You will never be able to improve your game until you move into playing for real money.

This is exactly why I play at my casino's every now and then,And why I play in the very biggest promo freerolls with the biggest prize pools.And Why I am grinding in these freerolls to cash build a bankroll,so that I can escape the microstakes,and play at stakes where I dont have to worry about the sheer overwhelming amount of variance volatility and donks and goof offs,to beat me out,but yet enough bad players to still profit off off


For the life of me I cant understand why someone would either finish in top 20 qualify for round 2 or pay 40 dollars to play in round 2 only to try their damnedest to play like a poker idiot goof off and try their damnedest to lose their shot at 250,000 dollars in REAL money.


Mike DH

      
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