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PLO200 prop bet - 150 BI's in 31 days PLO200 prop bet - 150 BI's in 31 days

03-06-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
OP claims to have over 13BB/100, but this actually translates to 6.44 BB/100.

OP claims to have earned 125,000 VPP, but 119,743 hands at $1/$2 6-max gives an expected value of 64,477 VPP. According to the Pokerstars VIP calculator, a person playing 1 table for 1 hour per week at $1/$2 with the default of 75 H/Hr earns 175 VPP per month. 52 weeks in a year divided by 12 months in a year times 75 hands in a week equals 325 hands to earn 175 VPP, or 0.53846 VPP per hand. 119,743 times 0.53846 equals 64,477. The default of 75H/Hr is consistently close to the average H/Hr you would find at a full 6-max 1/2 PLO table. (Filter for this, do a screen shot, then average the H/Hr and you can confirm this).

OP claims to have 20-tabled for 111 hours to accomplish this feat. Assuming his estimate of hours is correct, he actually averaged only 14.38 tables at a time.

Assuming OP began this prop bet as a Supernova, and further assuming his average monthly VPP in 2010 is 64,477 (in other words, maintains pace the other 11 months of the year):
--OP is on pace to earn 773,724 VPP in 2010
--OP earned 225,670 FPP during the prop bet
--The average "100,000 VPP Milestone Cash Credit" for someone who achieves 700,000 VPP but not 800,000 VPP in 2010 is $3,542.86 at a cost of 50,000 FPP. Since OP earned only 64,477 VPP, he earned 64.477% of what he needs to earn to redeem a cash credit. Therefore: $2,284.33 costing 32,239 FPP.
--OP would have 193,431 FPP remaining to spend on the $4,000 VIP Reward Bonus, which costs 250,000 FPP. 193,431/250,000 = $3,094.90/$4,000.

Summary:
119,743 hands
6.44 BB/100 (raw profit only)
64,477 VPP
225,670 FPP
14.38 simultaneous tables on average
111 hours
$30,855.95 in profit
$15,000 in prop bets won
$5,379.23 in pro-rated VPP Milestone Credit / VIP Reward Bonus

Total Profit = $51,235.18
Hourly Earn = $461.58
Adjusted BB/100 = 10.7
It's like you have a prop bet where you have to make yourself look as dumb as possible ITT. Just really impressive stuff.
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03-06-2010 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by breadandbutter
You are wrong, in every way.. I grinded PLO200 myself for a while and I got around 1.01 vpp per hand.. So his calculations are right and very believable (I don't understand why you think he would lie about this but ok ) You probably used the NL200 6m calculator..

Secondly, when he says bb/100 he means big blinds, you are talking about poker tracker BB (also called big bets) which is 2 big blinds..

I don't give 2 shi.ts about DonkPredator but I don't get your post. What are you trying to prove? Are you jealous or just a very sad negative hater? Huge fail imo, you seem to have absolutely no clue about grinding on a poker site too.. So stop giving your opinion about it..
After reviewing again how VPPs are earned in relation to rake, if OP kept playing even as the 6-max tables dwindled down to fewer players, then he would gain a greater share of the 5.5 VPPs allocated to the $1 of rake as the number of players is reduced. 3-handed he's getting 1.83 VPP per hand where the pot hits $20, and heads-up he gets 2.75 VPP. I assumed that every hand he played was 5-6 handed, and that obviously wasn't the case.

I was interested in learning exactly how profitable this venture was for OP, and thought I'd share my work. I don't understand why it's not OK for people to make mistakes in figuring out stuff, this is fun for me. Just because a post doesn't cheerlead for OP doesn't mean the poster is sad, negative, or hateful necessarily. Whether OP is a narcissistic jerk or not did not impact on why I chose to calculate his profits and it didn't impact the tone with which I posted it. Just roughly double the VIP rewards and you get the idea...it was a fun exercise for me to learn more about the PS VIP program in the process, but I'm not going to refigure the exact VIP amount.
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03-06-2010 , 11:32 PM
Avg players at tables: 5,6.
I guess my stats are a little bit off regarding the VPPs etc. I played some plo 2/4 and 10/20 in the middle of the prop bet.
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03-07-2010 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r
Avg players at tables: 5,6.
I guess my stats are a little bit off regarding the VPPs etc. I played some plo 2/4 and 10/20 in the middle of the prop bet.
what were your vpip/pfr/3bet/agg factor?
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03-07-2010 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by napsus
what were your vpip/pfr/3bet/agg factor?
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+1
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03-07-2010 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r
Avg players at tables: 5,6.
I guess my stats are a little bit off regarding the VPPs etc. I played some plo 2/4 and 10/20 in the middle of the prop bet.
Yes, it's a bit lower as your calculations but it's very close to accurate.. I get around 1,01 vpp per hand at PLO200 6max.. So you probably got around 121k vpp's (little less or more depending on play style) for your 119,743 hands at PLO200..
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