PLO200 prop bet - 150 BI's in 31 days - Page 6 - Poker Beats Brags and Variance

I dont think you know how difficult it is. It is something called variance in PLO. This is a great bet for you. I got a guy who is willing to put up lots of money against me. It will be impossible to make this bet without playing less than 18 tables imo.

So are you willing to make a rule that you cant play less then 16 tables at a time ? unless there are no 16 tables of 6max running at the time ?

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01-22-2010 , 09:45 PM

#127

paulee

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Are you taking action yet OP?

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01-22-2010 , 09:51 PM

#128

Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by machado

So are you willing to make a rule that you cant play less then 16 tables at a time ? unless there are no 16 tables of 6max running at the time ?

I can take that I cant play less than 14 tables.. If anyone else wants it. Wont do it if only one person wants it.

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Originally Posted by paulee

Are you taking action yet OP?

Yes. Send your bet to "Brian Hastings" on FTP or "wazzbot" on pokerstars

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01-22-2010 , 09:56 PM

#129

machado

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Hum. Id like that. Does everyone agree and wants that he puts in the rule that he cant play less than 14 tables ? IT cant be bad for us...

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01-22-2010 , 09:59 PM

#130

GREEAR10

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Can we get an updated list of who has bet what amount against OP?

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01-22-2010 , 10:04 PM

#131

urgkorv

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Originally Posted by machado

Hum. Id like that. Does everyone agree and wants that he puts in the rule that he cant play less than 14 tables ? IT cant be bad for us...

What does it matter? i know that omaha is hard to multitable n all but if he wants to play more than 14 tables this rule is just dumb.

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01-22-2010 , 10:04 PM

#132

Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by GREEAR10

Can we get an updated list of who has bet what amount against OP?

you will most likely get it tomorrow. Fyi I think some of the better will stay anonymous

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01-22-2010 , 10:09 PM

#133

DirDirDirty

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,574

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Originally Posted by machado

Hum. Id like that. Does everyone agree and wants that he puts in the rule that he cant play less than 14 tables ? IT cant be bad for us...

I think this is the first time I have ever heard of anyone asking for a minimum number of tables to be played on what's basically a volume prop bet. Wtf is wrong with you? Stop screwing up the rules and line.

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01-22-2010 , 10:10 PM

#134

machado

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Originally Posted by urgkorv

What does it matter? i know that omaha is hard to multitable n all but if he wants to play more than 14 tables this rule is just dumb.

WE're not limiting the number of tables that he can play. Wed be just limiting the minimum amount of tables that he could play at a time. Trust me playing 14 tables at a time and playing 9 tables even in 1/2 plo makes a big diffence in winrates. So it would help us a little bit to justify the 3-1 odds that he is getting. Also not been able to play less tables when ure tired and bored is a big thing in a 31day timeframe. So hell need to play at least 14 tables witch demands a lot more attention and it gets a lot more annoying sometimes.

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01-22-2010 , 10:11 PM

#135

Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by machado

How can we be sure that you are the only one playing at your account ?

I will use a web cam http://www.justin.tv/donkpredator#r=GUhAkKo

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01-22-2010 , 10:24 PM

#136

moronchad

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Op i just saw your ptr,
very sick, even better that you've been playing such a short time, i'd also be shocked if you lost this bet,
gl

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01-22-2010 , 10:25 PM

#137

Th3_S1aught3r

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,617

Escrows: “Brian Hastings” on FTP and “wazzbot” on Pokerstars
Judges: mig, krmont22 and gordo16

I will take action up to $45 000 to my $15 000 (3-1)
Minimum wager: $600 to my $200

Final set of rules:

1. I must have a web-cam on while I play. I will not be disqualified for accidental or technical problems with the web-cam. If I have problems and it continues, it will be up to the judges to decide whether I should be disqualified or not. The link for this will be http://www.justin.tv/donkpredator#r=GUhAkKo

2. I am allowed to leave the web-cam to use the bathroom or to grab some food from the kitchen.

3. $30,000 must be won, after paying rake, and not counting rakeback or bonuses or pokerstars frequent player points or money from anything other than the poker games. If $30,000 or more is won, and all other conditions are met, I will win the bet. If $29,999 or less is won, or any other condition is not met by me, I will lose the bet. I may end the bet at any time if I claim to have won the $30,000 prior to the end of the 31 day period. This does not stop the clock from ticking. The 31 day period continues to count down, so I may continue to play if I wish in case the claim is not accepted. Regardless, hitting $30,000 of profits at any point during the 31 day period, if verified, results in me winning the bet, even if I subsequently lose money back.

4. Those who bet will be given my cell phone number. During these calls, you will request that I type a specific number (1-9) into the chat. Once you do this, I will be given one minute to type the given number into at least four chat boxes on my table. For every 750 dollars you bet, you will be allowed one phone call (max of 3). If I miss the call either I’ll give you a call back immediately or just give me another call. Once this is done, you are required to post in my progress thread to confirm that I passed the test.

5. The only situation in which I will be allowed to void this bet midway through is a death in my family (sister, brother, mom or dad). Documentation would have to be provided.

6. Those who wager are strictly prohibited from sitting at my tables unless you are a regular or a semi regular at 1/2 PLO six max. So if you normally play 5/10 six max, you will not be allowed to play 1/2 six max. You also are not allowed to collude/purposely slow down tables. If the judges feel they have enough substantiated proof of a violation of this rule, this will result in a forfeiter of the violating individual's wager.

7. Following the bet, Scottyy will post in the thread with my results. If people don't accept his results, then the hand histories will be sent to the three judges and they will determine who won the bet.

8. I must buy in full with the auto rebuy on. If it happens a couple times, this isn't grounds for the bet to be void but if it continues, then it is. It will be judges discretion.

9. As part of the motivation for the wagerers may be entertainment, I will provide dailyish updates in the progress thread. Good faith effort to update at least every 24 hours is expected, but this condition will not be considered breached until I play one hand when 72 hours or more have gone by without update.

10: I can not play less than 14 tables at the same time (except when I’m starting my session by being on waiting lists and waiting to get a seat. And when I have to change tables, due to players leaving)

Brian and wazz will confirm your bets in this thread consecutive

Any other questions regarding the bet, just PM me or ask in this thread

Last edited by Th3_S1aught3r; 01-22-2010 at 10:32 PM.

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01-22-2010 , 10:37 PM

#138

xxaceshigh77xx

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rule 10 is the worst rule ever imo...

something like "My table ratio at the end of the bet must be atleast 12 " would be alot better and alot clearer

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01-22-2010 , 10:48 PM

#139

paulee

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Yea, rule 10 is unacceptable in current form. Terms are ambiguous and there is no penalty for breaking it.

Please reserve me 3k assuming the rule is cleared up.

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01-22-2010 , 10:54 PM

#140

machado

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Yeah please fix the form of rule 10 (something more logical and reinforcable). And ill also bet.

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01-22-2010 , 11:00 PM

#141

TheCanoe

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 11,672

my action is booked (assuming the bet happens) so no more PMs

gl OP

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01-22-2010 , 11:02 PM

#142

Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by xxaceshigh77xx

rule 10 is the worst rule ever imo...

something like "My table ratio at the end of the bet must be atleast 12 " would be alot better and alot clearer

Okey, I can make this rule 10:
"My table ratio at the end of the bet must be atleast 12". But where can I find my table ratio?

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01-22-2010 , 11:17 PM

#143

xxaceshigh77xx

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

Okey, I can make this rule 10:
"My table ratio at the end of the bet must be atleast 12". But where can I find my table ratio?

i know ptr3 tells you in the sessions table ..... not sure about HEM but im guessing it does

they way you had the rule doesnt really fit and i think 12 is a good number as it accounts for the time it takes to open/close tables etc.

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01-22-2010 , 11:20 PM

#144

Th3_S1aught3r

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I havent found it on HEM yet. Will remove rule nr.10 if it doesnt work

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01-22-2010 , 11:25 PM

#145

machado

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Dont remove it. Lets think of a way to make the rule 10 acceptable. Any ideas guys ?

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01-23-2010 , 12:49 AM

#146

jim_money

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I'm not betting, but rule 10 is incredibly stupid. OP has to put in so much volume and keep a decent winrate that if he drops below 12 tables he'll probably be hurting himself. Just get rid of it imo

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01-23-2010 , 03:28 AM

#147

machado

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All he has to do is play more hours and less tables increasing his winrate. I strongly think that it makes a big diffence having this rule. It will demand more from him to hit the 30k.

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01-23-2010 , 08:21 AM

#148

Th3_S1aught3r

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I have decided to remove the rule. It wont make any big different. I wont be playing less than 14 tables anyways.
If you dont wanna bet vs be because of that, your loss.