PLO200 prop bet - 150 BI's in 31 days - Page 4 - Poker Beats Brags and Variance

Stop hustling everyone by saying you are a superbusy kid who can only play 4 hours a day.

If worst comes to worst, your gonna grind for 15 hours straight.

Ill put up 20k if you do 4 hours max every 24 hours at 4:1, Otherwise drop it down to 2.5-3:1.

Not being a prick towards Mig, but Mig as a judge should stay out of this and stop getting people to bet him at 4:1.
Just seems a bit odd in my eyes.

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01-22-2010 , 12:17 PM

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Mig

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Originally Posted by KillBauer

I don't want people to bet at 4:1. Don't really care tbh . I'd be much better off if he didn't do it. I play 14 tables~ 10 hours a day and a reg playing 20 tables a month 200 hours+ is very very bad for me. I'm just loling at people coming from NL saying it's easy bet. But u are right that I should not chime in and comment on this bet as I'm a judge.

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01-22-2010 , 12:25 PM

#78

Percussion

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Originally Posted by violt

40k hands in PLO is like 10k hands in NLHE. Its nothing. None. Zero. Kapish?
On the other hand 4:1 is a bit overkill given that OP has 50% chance to run hot. And when you run hot in PLO you run hot.

True, but if you think critically about it, OP has a 50% chance to win to the bet--he either wins 150 buyins or he doesn't. Kidding aside, I dabble a bit in the 1-2 PLO and I think I would be drawing dead on this bet. Best of luck OP.

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01-22-2010 , 12:27 PM

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CastleBravo79

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01-22-2010 , 12:28 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by bearz

I'll give action at 2.5:1

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Originally Posted by KillBauer

You will get 3-1.

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01-22-2010 , 12:31 PM

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viewer88

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Well I'm tempted about 3-1 but tbh I have no idea how hard this bet is in PLO
The only person coming up with numbers is Mig and he's a judge...

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01-22-2010 , 12:37 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by viewer88

Well I'm tempted about 3-1 but tbh I have no idea how hard this bet is in PLO
The only person coming up with numbers is Mig and he's a judge...

him being a judge has nothing to do with this. He has tons of PLO experience..

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01-22-2010 , 12:38 PM

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AApjAA

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A week left to grab some popcorn.

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01-22-2010 , 12:39 PM

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MrBIond

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

i think more like 100k hands. I like to sleep, sleeping is underrated

So you have increased your expected hands played in the month by a full 100% already?! But anyway at 200k hands its 7.5 BB/100 which is perfectly doable playing 8-12 tables but if you do genuinely have the time constraints of not being able to put in many hours then it will be made more difficult by playing 15+ tables

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01-22-2010 , 12:45 PM

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KillBauer

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

him being a judge has nothing to do with this. He has tons of PLO experience..

Lars, It has a alot to do with it IMO.

I know mig by name and i know he isnt lieng or w/e.

Just after the 2 pages i see here, i want the rules to be more clear.

You mentioned hourly limits and etc.

i will put alot of money up if you make rules more spesific.

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01-22-2010 , 12:45 PM

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Erik W

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Originally Posted by MuiMuiBueno

I think you got these numbers wrong. 40k hands of no limit would be like 20k hands of PLO. mig said something along these lines

You get in about 65-70 hands/ hour on a full 6max PLO table .
Probably closer to 70 than 65.

Edit: checked my FTP db and at 1/2 it is almost exactly 70 and that is over a large sample and I double checked with some other players too.

15 tables X 70 = about 1k hands an hour.

(hands * winrate * limit * ptBBis_double_limit)
winrate 5 ptBB : 30000/(10*5*2*2) = 150 hours of play
winrate 4 ptBB : 30000/(10*4*2*2) = 188 hours of play
winrate 3 ptBB : 30000/(10*3*2*2) = 250 hours of play

Last edited by Erik W; 01-22-2010 at 12:58 PM.

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01-22-2010 , 12:49 PM

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LooseCaller

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i just dont see how you can possibly maintain any kind of decent win rate 15 tabling plo. this seems somewhat like a too good to be true proposition with all the conditions you've laid out.

that said, im probably in for a bet if this ends up getting off the ground.

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01-22-2010 , 01:04 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by LooseCaller

I mean, I will be playing 18 tables most of the time. Who will get a winrate of more than 6BB/100?

KillBauer: It would be silly to have a hourly limit now that Ive change the odds to 3-1.

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01-22-2010 , 01:04 PM

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zombien

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in for $1,500 to win $500. Money sent to Brian Hastings on FTP from this nick

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01-22-2010 , 01:10 PM

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-ChoKo-

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no more stt so ? !

glgl

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01-22-2010 , 01:22 PM

#91

Mig

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Is there a way to have the average table played with HEM ?

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01-22-2010 , 01:29 PM

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jim_money

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Originally Posted by Mig

Is there a way to have the average table played with HEM ?

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01-22-2010 , 01:35 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by -ChoKo-

no more stt so ? !

glgl

I will keep playing STT after the prop bet, but they have been rigged recently. (I mean insanely rigged)

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Originally Posted by zombien

in for $1,500 to win $500. Money sent to Brian Hastings on FTP from this nick

Ty. I dont know what's normal, but I think Brian is gonna confirm the transfer in this thread

For the other who is gonna bet. Send your amount to either wazzbot (London) on Pokerstars or Brian Hastings on Full Tilt Poker.
They will confirm it in this thread..

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01-22-2010 , 02:39 PM

#94

cftw

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Really clarify the rules.

You can't just say, "I have soccer practice etc. etc." and expect us to think that if it gets close after the first two weeks, you won't just skip some practices to get more time in.

As far as we should be concerned, you have the choice to play as much as you want this month unless you specifically limit the hours in your rules. As described, 4:1 is ridiculous.

2-2.5:1 is far more reasonable if you don't cap the hours, but 4:1 works if you explicitly explain in the rules that you will cap your hours.

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01-22-2010 , 02:42 PM

#95

TheCanoe

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If OP sells out his action, I would like to bet his side.

Or if you know me and want to bet just so you dont have to escrow, pm me

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01-22-2010 , 02:44 PM

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WalkieTalkie

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he already is cappin the hours , at 31 days !!!

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01-22-2010 , 02:48 PM

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Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by cftw

Not to be a dick or something, but I can play as much as I want!!! I wont obv not skip football for poker. I mean, football is 1,5 hours a day. Then I have 22,5 hours to do what I want to.

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Originally Posted by WalkieTalkie

he already is cappin the hours , at 31 days !!!

this

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01-22-2010 , 02:51 PM

#98

Th3_S1aught3r

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Originally Posted by wipwow

whats the status on bet amounts so far?!

You can as much as you want, but minimum wager is $600 to win $200

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01-22-2010 , 02:52 PM

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TheCanoe

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Walkietalkie= OP

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01-22-2010 , 02:53 PM

#100

worpler

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Originally Posted by MrBIond

So you have increased your expected hands played in the month by a full 100% already?! But anyway at 200k hands its 7.5 BB/100 which is perfectly doable playing 8-12 tables but if you do genuinely have the time constraints of not being able to put in many hours then it will be made more difficult by playing 15+ tables

Que?????

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