Maybe OP has the hookup with someone high up at PTR who will help skew the results in his favor if its close enough where its possible to do so without anyoen noticing? Like just drop winning sessions every so often of the top contenders except for OP? ***sorry for suggesting such a thing, OP, as you seem legit but this bet also seems crazy so I'm just thinking of all possible angles.

I actually thought about that angle too fwiw haha.

thats why there is a judge

i haven't thought about this angle much except for when jalex has me to confirm that i know no insiders at PTR. i dont know anyone at PTR. also i dont think a business like PTR would jeopradize getting a bad reputation with the 2+2 community by helping in a prop bet scandal. PTR have been trying to prove themselves to the community. if anything, if there turned out to be any cheating such as chip dumping going on or whatever, then they might even catch and make it public.

anyways i did try contacting them through support linking to the thread saying im trying to do a prop bet depending on PTR accuracy and whether i could depend on them. they didnt give any helpful response and just talked about there lack of tracking abilities for the last 1-2 weeks and that everything is going back to normal and sorry for the inconviences.

GL OP. Hopefully you come 2nd to earn yourself some money, give 2+2 a good sweat and make me a little moneis

Will be cool to follow

you don't think it's possible that somebody thinks they are much better at poker than they actually are?

Just sent $2400 (main bet) + $400 (side bet) to stars escrow acct.

Assume the side bet is still ok with you for $400, if u want to do less then just get jalex to ship me whatever the difference is, but ideally for me it would be the same as the amount i'd stand to win.

So to confirm the sidebet it's even money that u don't earn more than $3k for the whole month. Cheers

gl with the bet, i really hope you make this but i think its gonna be a real grind!! if u make it, it will be sickest thing ever!

And also to confirm again I'm a nl100 reg but since i mainly play deepstacked, i'm more like a nl250 reg lol so i doubt we'll clash a lot but we might do occasionally.

Thanks gl

Confirmed received $2800. What defines the $3k for the sidebet? $3k on PTR or $3k in his actual hand histories?

Also, to those betting against Silent_0ne, especially those of you that shipped on FTP....

If you have not PM'ed me your Stars Account name, please do so.



I think we're just waiting on one person to ship his money and then Silent_0ne will be shipping his cash and we're good to go.

I recommend all bettors review the rules one more time and make sure there's nothing that's a concern or requires clarification before the bet begins.

Shipped $900.

Almost made it to $2400, but I got lazy last night...

Hopefully you'll ship more cheddar per week than me, OP...just not too much more

I think this may be how am gonna determine how much I bet on all props in future...it was fun.

Confirmed Received.

Here's my confirmed action list:

KakiTee 18000
the_most10 600
INSPIRON 600
kerpowski 1800
franxic 1500
GoMukYaSelf 30000
tightmaniac 1800
EsandWhizz 3000
Rays champs in 08 3000
realestate 1200
NXT_LINE 1200
Supernova_Elite 1200
Handbaggio 2400
King Fish 900

Total Action against: $67,200
Silent_0ne action: $11,200


I'll post to confirm when I receive Silent_0ne's escrow.

Can I up to 1.2k op or we all done? Or do I need to hit that 20k milestone originally discussed? :P

Most likely final weekly graph, unless I get motivated later today...

Fish on a heater.jpg:




BTW, I assume when prop starts we will have a new thread? If not then I won't spam with these updates anymore. But knowing I had to post a public graph for a week motivated me to play less bad :P.

Well, yeah, but the way you say this makes it sound like a judge will always be able to uncover any and all foul play. This obviously isn't the case, although I do highly doubt anything will be missed a very large percentage of the time. Something like a connection at PTR who would be assisting in skewing the stats seems like a very, very hard thing to uncover, no?

Yeah I agree it would be a long shot to say the least that someone at PTR would risk helping someone in this situation. Good luck to you, epic bet.

ya you can up it to 1.2k if you want. very nice graph! wish i could get 1/6th your winrate at half the stakes!

and there isnt gonna be any new thread. this will be the sweat thread as well

this morning i woke up with itchy hives all over my body, went to the hospital and got some needle and it all went away, then like 5+ hours later i started drinking and its all back and its sooo itchy. its really annoying and i wish i knew what i was allergic too!!!

Tks. Transferred another $300 to Jalex.

GL OP, hope you break even, and perhaps just a little more

Winrate is of course sustainable, as long as every weekend turns into Thanksgiving where the fish keep playing while many regs stay away from the tables!

Here's my confirmed action list:

KakiTee 18000
the_most10 600
INSPIRON 600
kerpowski 1800
franxic 1500
GoMukYaSelf 30000
tightmaniac 1800
EsandWhizz 3000
Rays champs in 08 3000
realestate 1200
NXT_LINE 1200
Supernova_Elite 1200
Handbaggio 2400
King Fish 1200

Total Action against: $67,500
Silent_0ne action: $11,250

I'll post to confirm when I receive the rest of Silent_0ne's escrow, received part of it yesterday.

@ jalex re sidebet: i assumed this would be based on PTR, cause thats what the main bet is based on. keeping it that way is much easier imo. i'm assuming we are in the same boat on this one.

if u win this bet it will be so sick, $67k plus profits & rb, that would just be awesome

yeah i agree on the same rules for the side bet.

also, if i won the prop bet that would be 80-90k profit in the month. pretty sick!

i sent the money on stars but my transfer limit on ftp sucks and they wont increase it, so i'm going to get someone to transfer me money today/tomorrow then ship it to jalex.

next few days gonna start testing out 100nl on stars with HM and table ninja and see how things go.

lol you think you might have done some testing before taking so much action?

6-1 is so lol. 20-1 is being generous.

I would agree with this.

that's probably my biggest mistake in this bet. after already committing to 6 to 1 and not backing down, i started some testing/research and found i'm not in good shape here.



if i manage to play 300k hands with 2bb/100 winrate, looks like a 20-1 shot. probably should have looked at this **** a week ago

Hey man, someone's gotta win this, may as well be you. Besides, your edge is that there is no cash incentive for winning this trophy.

Everyone else would just be doing it for bragging rights (and to be frank probably no one is going to go too far out of their way for this monthly "title"). You have $70k of added incentive that no one else has.