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12-14-2010 , 09:22 PM

#1426

zyrrth

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pathetic move by a hsnl grinder imo

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12-14-2010 , 09:22 PM

#1427

Malefiicus

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To lighten the mood, here's your lol of the day.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/han...95/11672683150

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12-14-2010 , 09:22 PM

#1428

amurophil

banned

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,972

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

And for science's sake, DON'T PLAY HEADS UP WITH FEES. How on earth is that going to help you?

looool I say he does exactly this. mega bad ass

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12-14-2010 , 09:24 PM

#1429

Ricepaw1226

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12-14-2010 , 09:25 PM

#1430

Goertsy

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 304

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Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

At first I figured this rule made it a lock for Silent_0ne, but reading closely the rule doesn't state that bettors can't play the stake of $100nl (in this case $50nl), just that they can't play against Silent_0ne unless they are already a regular at those stakes. So this rule doesn't affect the situation.

Define against.
Even if fees doesn't play on the same tables, he (indirectly) plays against silentone. An average NL50 reg is there for making money and doesn't care about the prob bet. Fees is there for competing silentone and to affect the prop bet so he plays against silentone.

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12-14-2010 , 09:29 PM

#1431

cero_dinero

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seems clear that there is a bettor who is [indirectly] affecting the outcome of the bet

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12-14-2010 , 09:29 PM

#1432

DonkeyFishFight

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I'm not the one to define "against", but as I'm reading it it means to play against him directly, i.e. sitting at his tables. Anyway, as I wrote in that post I think this pretty clearly comes down to rule two and the judge's (and/or well known 2+2 members') interpretation of it and fees's actions.

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12-14-2010 , 09:30 PM

#1433

Goertsy

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 304

Obvioulsy the rules are poorly worded. But it is impossible to cover every possible scenario in the rules. This is why we need a judge who can decide in unexpected situations. In these cases he should follow the spirit of the bet, which is clearly biased.

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12-14-2010 , 09:31 PM

#1434

theskillzdatklls

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,916

donkeyfishfight: the rules were changed to 50nl for the 50nl prop bet. even though it says 100nl it applies to 50nl for the 50nl prop bet.

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

would be sweet if in the end we find out that silent0ne was fees 2nd account and he was just doing this to throw off the scent

Tumaterminator: i'm friends with both of them so your conspiracy theory isn't too likely.

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12-14-2010 , 09:35 PM

#1435

the_most10

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lol @ how u think people are coaching / ghosting silent-- no offence to the people that live with silent but they suck at poker and are not helping him at all lol

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12-14-2010 , 09:41 PM

#1436

roy_miami

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Fees is either a moran, knows he'll get his $25k back from the "escrow" win or lose, or both.

With all the twists and turns this has to be the zaniest thread of all time on 2+2. None of it makes any sense. Fees must have a huge side bet with another $2k reg to even make this worth his while, right?

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12-14-2010 , 09:43 PM

#1437

Messiahkid

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Originally Posted by the_most10

lol @ how u think people are coaching / ghosting silent-- no offence to the people that live with silent but they suck at poker and are not helping him at all lol

4. All play must be in accordance with the intent of legitamite play. No chip dumping, collusion, ghosting, team play, etc. will be allowed.

What is so hard to understand? Silent_one is clearly participating in both team play AND ghosting. No specifications are made to if these persons have WSOP bracelets or are fgators.

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12-14-2010 , 09:47 PM

#1438

Krax

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I guess we're not samurai.

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12-14-2010 , 09:53 PM

#1439

ItsOnlyChips

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Originally Posted by roy_miami

Fees must have a huge side bet with another $2k reg to even make this worth his while, right?

starting to think this might be the case, so messed up

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12-14-2010 , 09:53 PM

#1440

ChildPls

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Originally Posted by Messiahkid

Don't forget the fish at the table calling it off with J high, that's clearly chip dumping.

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12-14-2010 , 10:00 PM

#1441

calvinzorr

old hand

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Originally Posted by Messiahkid

Sorry Messiahkid, but where do you get that info?

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12-14-2010 , 10:05 PM

#1442

hard2tel

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Originally Posted by fees

Hey,

Just to clear a few things up,

1. I haven't broken any rules, there isn't a rule that explicitly states that I cannot win the UGL.
2. I'm not trying to scam/do anything shady/etc, when I made the bet I posted in this thread asking if a bettor could win the UGL, "Handbaggio" posted

no one refuted it or said otherwise, jalex said rementioned that no one could battleship to one up him on the UGL, so it was my understanding that if I wanted I could win the UGL.

anyway I'm going to try and win the 50nl UGL this month... I haven't done anything wrong and there is nothing wrong with me going for it.

gl

edit: I'm not going to be posting much in this thread, so please no questions, etc.

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12-14-2010 , 10:08 PM

#1443

BrendanV

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 361

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Originally Posted by hard2tel

Hahah, perfect picture for fees post.

Clearly fees is in the wrong, hes knows it, we know it. Pretty petty that a nl2000reg would pull this crap.

Last edited by BrendanV; 12-14-2010 at 10:09 PM. Reason: grusome

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12-14-2010 , 10:12 PM

#1444

chrismystero

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Originally Posted by Messiahkid

What is so hard to understand? Silent_one is clearly participating in both team play AND ghosting. No specifications are made to if these persons have WSOP bracelets or are fgators.

Um...wat?

Ofcourse from time to time others might be in the room. He lives in a house with 5 other students. Doesn't necessarily mean people are coaching/ghosting/teamplaying - because they're not. I agree that their skill is irrelevant and if they were coaching it would be against the rules, but they're not. Review the tapes if you want. It's pretty ignorant to state such a thing against Silent_0ne when you have no proof at all and you're just pulling things out of your ass.

Most of the time people are in that room they're eating or studying for an exam or something.

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12-14-2010 , 10:14 PM

#1445

Silent_0ne

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,309

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Originally Posted by Messiahkid

show me the videos where any team play/ghosting occured? friends come in the room all the time and the occasional time after a hand someone will say something like "nice call or I would of folded" or whatever. these players dont even play poker regularly and I don't take any little comments they have into consideration when I play.

also, the_most10 is a good friend of mine from my home town. he bet AGAINST me in the first bet and FOR me in the second bet. im not multi accounting or cheating in any way at all. i have no problem with giving jalex the rest of my stars roll at the end of the month before he does any investigation, and if i'm cheating then the bettors can get extra compensation. i will never cheat, i am not that type of person. if i was in the opposite spot, being blessed enough to be able to win at 2k nl, i would never ever do what fees is doing!

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12-14-2010 , 10:25 PM

#1446

cheet

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i don't think fees is violating the terms of the bet

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12-14-2010 , 10:29 PM

#1447

blankoblanco

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Originally Posted by cheet

i don't think fees is violating the terms of the bet

then your screenname fits, imo

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12-14-2010 , 10:31 PM

#1448

SA16

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attempting to violate the terms of the bet while jalex is the judge seems like an extremely poor idea imo

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12-14-2010 , 10:41 PM

#1449

Krax

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,914

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Originally Posted by SA16

attempting to violate the terms of the bet while jalex is the judge seems like an extremely poor idea imo

except that, if I understood him correctly, jalex already said that this is ok, no?

I agree that fees is violating the rules tho

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12-14-2010 , 10:44 PM

#1450

loK2thabrain

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,203

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

I once made a bet with a friend that he couldn't walk a few miles in my city without wearing shoes. he wore socks, and i learned a valuable lesson about props.

Well your friend is an idiot because he just as easily could have worn sandals and been much more comfortable.

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