Confirmed received.

Just to clarify, and silent_0ne can do so, but I don't think OP knows CTS at all other than PM'ing him to see if I am legit. _I_ am friends with CTS.

In addition, you are smoking some good stuff if you think CTS would do anything dishonorable in a prop bet, such as coaching/staking a prop bettor in a bet such as this.

You are not going to play HU tables, but doesn't the UGL for 100NL take into account HU? Basically you are competing against HU players for the UGL, is that correct?

Seems like this will be next to impossible considering that fact. Doing some math however, if OP plays 20k hands a day, and does 600k (which is ridiculous I know and close to the record) in volume, his win rate only needs to be 1BB/100 to clear 12k, not to say that will win the bet, but if you up the win rate to 1.5BB/100 he can do 18k... makes it a rather interesting bet.

This is correct.

i dont know cole south :P

at FIRST i was really geared to getting 10 to 1 on this but then settled with 6 to 1 because 10 to 1 wasnt going to happen with enough action. also, as the bet progressed with more talk about PTRs inaccuracy and thinking of how good you need to be/how much volume you need to get in, I have lost lots of confidence in winning. obviously I still think i have a chance or I wouldnt be doing this, but I know i am getting the worse of it, but as you can probably notice from my PTR and sharkscope, I am kind of a degen and im going to take the gamble.

also, when you said im a loser on the euro site, thats not true. with that graph i showed, after rakeback i was a pretty decent winner. on top of this, im not going to cheat or doing any angle shooting. anyone would obviously say this though, probably just like gary naville but thats why I got jalex to be the judge cause he is awesome and I really want to make this bet 100% legitimate so people feel safe with it and that theres no cheating going on!

also, your point about coaching from CS or someone, im getting none of this. however, a player I play with on microgaming is betting against me and decided to be very nice and has given me lots of real life advice on eating/structuring my day, and alot of very confident messages. he is kind of a life coach, and i really thank him for all this advice! on top of this, hes helping me set up holdem manager for pokerstars with a good HUD and everything because I am really bad at all that stuff. thats all the help im getting, no coaching help though!

okay, ive cleaned the reserve list of people i havent heard from since the very start of the bet, and just going to assume they dont want to bet. so ill put you on reserve list.

RESERVE LIST: 6 to 1 in my favour
Esandwhizz - 3k
rays champ in 08 - 3k-6k
handbaggio - 2-3k
king fish - 0-1000$
splashthatb0t - 0.6k - 1.2k
franxic - 1.5k
GoMukYaSelf - 30k
Supernova_Elite - 1.2k

escrowed so far:
Kakitee - 18k
the_most10 - 0.6k
INSPIRON - 0.6k
kerpowski - 1.8k
tightmaniac - 1.8k

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silent_0ne 3.8k to 22.8k
willing to take up to 10k action! (edit: which appears to be full now with the reserved bets)

gl OP

kurt

Even though it seems near impossible, I do hope OP puts in insane grind ships the bet and a 115k month at 100nl, would be so sick haha. GL OP that's motivation enough for anyone.

EDIT: Think I did an adding up mistake but whatev, it's still a sick amount of money at 100nl. GL.

Received $3k from EsandWhizz through a third party.

If anyone backs out I am willing to take 2,4K$ to 400$. Will send on FTP.

Let me know

something doesn't add up here.

(edit: from post below)
RESERVE LIST: 6 to 1 in my favour
rays champ in 08 - 3k-6k
handbaggio - 2-3k
king fish - 0-1000$
franxic - 1.5k
GoMukYaSelf - 30k
Supernova_Elite - 1.2k
NXT_LINE - 1.2k (or 2.4k if any reserve bettors backout)

escrowed so far:
Kakitee - 18k
the_most10 - 0.6k
INSPIRON - 0.6k
kerpowski - 1.8k
tightmaniac - 1.8k
Esandwhizz - 3k

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silent_0ne 4.3k to 25.8k
*note- all bettors have to transfer by no later than november 27th please!

yeah, the 6 to 1 odds
im thinking right now I should have stuck with 10-12 to 1 but i dont know if I would have got soooo much interest. gonna give this bet 100% of my effort and really hope i run godly next month! theres gonna be no monkey business going on though atleast from my end of the bet, and i hope all bettors have enough respect to do nothing bad either!

hey u can have my 1200 reserve....gonna chase a milestone so need all the extra funds i can get bc that usually ends badly. gl all

shipped 3k on stars

/tag

This should be a really interesting sweat.

Ok. Will take 1,2k instead.

Shipping a pm to the judge after I have sent

lol lock of the year

GL silent you'll need it

Hi

just replied to ur PM.

Will take $1800 for now, but if i rungood in next 2-3 days will increase to up to $3k if that is ok.

Re the side bet ($3k+ even money). Even tho I now think you should crush this, I'm still willing to go with it for whatever I'd stand to win. So I'd be happy to have a $300-$300 with you for now and increase it to $500-$500 if/when my initial bet increases to $3k.

I would ideally want to ship on stars, but i could probs get money to FT if that's easier for you jalex, but will take 2-3 days probably.

I'm a $0.50/$1 reg myself FYI, however i play mainly deepstacked so I doubt I'd be clashing with you a whole lot anyway.

Cheers

Just a few points in the PS vs Prima debate, it's only my opinion so take them fwiw.

I've played a LOT of prima $0.50/1 with decent success (and lots of rakeback ) and have recently tried some PS and FTP and call me weird but I prefer PS and FTP and it's not even close.

The potential profitability is higher at prima for sure but for grinding I think PS and FTP are better for a couple of reasons.

1. Game selection. If you're going to play 8-10 tables, there is only a small window during peak hours at the good weekdays when you can have a fish at every table. At PS and FTP there are always good games to find and you never have to spend 30 minutes sitting through waitlists or try to start tables which takes a while on Prima due to the lower traffic.

2. The nature of the regs. The american regs are on average a bit more solid/better pokerplayers, yes. The scandi regs, while spewy, will hurt your winrate a lot more though imho. Especially when they sit at your left. No matter how spewy they are there really is no very profitable solution for countering one or two guys who are 3betting the **** out of you in position. Seat selection was key to my success but that meant cutting down on the amount of tables since the same guys are sitting at all the tables pretty much.

3. Shortstackers. Yes, some of them suck but that doesn't stop them from hurting the games and your winrate. Most of them don't lose allins either

4. Software. No freezes and timebanks magically dissappearing. Tableninja etc makes for a lot smoother multitabling. Stacking is an option and if you tile cards are actually visible at smaller table sizes.

And don't overestimate the rakeback, the difference in rake structure cuts away a chunk of the difference.

I've won at 2.5ptbb for half a million hands or so at prima $0.50/1 and my winrate is the same at the american sites and could be better if I gameselected more thoroughly. Add to that that you can play whenever you feel like it and have tons of tables available at the US sites.

Basically, if you're a very very good player, I think you can destroy the prima games for a bigger winrate since people are a bit more crazy/spewy and thus more exploitable. If your less than great and not very comfortable when people attack you, I don't think there's a big difference, if any.

I still think this challenge is ridicilous but that's because of silent_one's previous winrates playing a lot of tables, not because of how much harder the PS games are.

Hey man!
When I bet I like to be on the side that is in control of the outcome so I'm staying out of this one. I would bet Colin can do it though. Hopefully he steals all the run good this month from me and crushes.

i also play 100nl and ptr hasnt been tracking me since Nov 12th and it started tracking me again only today. thats 11 days missed or 1/3 of the month! today ptr missed only 1 hand though i'm not sure which one - it tracked 1st and last hand on each table correctly. but in that hand i won $37 so it's not some random fold pre.

i think one issue hasn´t been addressed yet..

say ptr misses 1/3 of every player´s hands. if op is as good as the other good regs, and they have similar results, his result will be way off the ptr numbers. rules say in this case op could be judged to win the bet even when he did not win the badge.. which is ok so far, but will jalex try to get the other regs numbers to confirm?

just sayin, great bet, and tho it would be expensive for me if he wins, big big respect to op´s balls.

just sent $1200 and pmed jalex on FTP

Confirmed received all three of these.

I think you're confused about the rules, I recommend you read the first post in this thread.