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**OFFICIAL PROP BET THREAD- WIN 0NL UGL FOR DEC 2010** **OFFICIAL PROP BET THREAD- WIN 0NL UGL FOR DEC 2010**

11-23-2010 , 01:20 PM
This is a crazy bet considering how many hand PTR is missing, nothing new in this thread, I know. PTR has only tracked two of my sessions since the 18th and the one it tracked from last night is missing 1/3 of my hands and over $110 of my profit. That would drive me nuts if I had a prop riding on them. This is just crazy. Good luck though, you are a sick sick man.
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11-23-2010 , 02:42 PM
I actually think its a very good idea for a prop bet compared to most. I said right at the start this will be very difficult but i wish you all the best OP

it will certainly be interesting to follow as im determined to try and finish above you...still considering a bet....
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11-23-2010 , 03:10 PM
With Jims rungoot in the cheering section this is a lock, I'm out

gl tho col
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11-23-2010 , 03:51 PM
thats over $13k to make it #1 i assume..right?
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11-23-2010 , 03:58 PM
Worst month to do it as people will be grinding extra hard. Good luck though, will be following
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11-23-2010 , 04:00 PM
As long as quads doesn't take another month off from the online pokers or decides to move up... You sir... Have no chance. But GL anyways
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11-23-2010 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerhat
I actually think its a very good idea for a prop bet compared to most. I said right at the start this will be very difficult but i wish you all the best OP

it will certainly be interesting to follow as im determined to try and finish above you...still considering a bet....
ahhh, i hope you dont play on stars!

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Originally Posted by afkBRB
With Jims rungoot in the cheering section this is a lock, I'm out

gl tho col
feel free to join in on the cheering section, i need all the support i can get

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Originally Posted by yegor
thats over $13k to make it #1 i assume..right?
yeah, its gonna be over 13k of tracked hands from PTR. one bettor PMed me a graph showing 14k profit from his poker tracker but on the UGL it only showed him with 9k profit! i really hope things dont get that bad with me or i really have no chance
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11-23-2010 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_Oldham
I'd feel confident that there's nobody better than jalex to judge but you might want 2 more (CJ / hodge) to be on the safe side? I'd offer to help as I'm not betting but I have a sick busy December. GL!
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
jalex is a sick judge but more help would always be appreciated! i want to make this bet as legitimate and fair as possible!
Just a quick note about the judging... I'm optimistic there won't be any controversy in this bet the way the rules have been defined. As a I noted in the rules, if there's controversy, I'll look to get some well respected 2p2ers that are completely disinterested parties to help give input if there's anything that's a grey area. I don't really want to add additional overhead to the bet UP FRONT with additional judges if they aren't really needed.

Thanks for the compliments too.
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11-23-2010 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Money022
This is a crazy bet considering how many hand PTR is missing, nothing new in this thread, I know. PTR has only tracked two of my sessions since the 18th and the one it tracked from last night is missing 1/3 of my hands and over $110 of my profit. That would drive me nuts if I had a prop riding on them. This is just crazy. Good luck though, you are a sick sick man.
agree. PTR is pretty bad. Last 10 sessions I played were all winning sessions. PTR has 3 of them as losing sessions and some of the others not as winning as they actually were. However, everyone is in the same boat so your competition is obv just as likely to have similar missed hands. Going to be tilting as **** to book a winning sesh and see your PTR graph go down though . GL
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11-23-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerhat
If i were you id be looking easily for over 10-1.
Like you say there are some pretty consitent competent grinders at this level
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Originally Posted by DeckardCain
you also have to make sure PTR doesn't miss your hands, which it obv does alot.

also, if u could win the UGL at every site, im sure u would get some crazy odds =P
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Originally Posted by canoodles
If I was OP, I wouldn't take this for less than 100-1.
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Originally Posted by icracknuts
I would bet the odds of you doing this is closer to 50 to 1...judging from previous threads you have made and other limited knowledge. That being said, props bets have to have good value in order for someone to take you up on it.

10 to 1 seem like fair odds to get action...if I was a friend or trusted you I would definitely take 25 to 1 odds against you. Accepting less than 10 to 1 odds is insane(partially b/c how innaccurate ptr is)...gl finding good odds
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Originally Posted by shipit2kg
Ive got to think your either ******ed, or playing an angle here, because you being a 6-1 dog to do this is absurd. 9 to 1 is a start. GLGL though, props for having the balls to try this.

Ive never bet on this stuff before, but not taking action against you is like lighting money on fire.
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Originally Posted by Handbaggio
I'm in for $2-$3k please, pending conf of the terms as mentioned earlier.

Also I would like to offer you an additional side bet if u want to take it (bearing in mind I have no idea who you are, have never seen you play or met you or anything I am just up for a gamble)

I'd like to bet you even money that you make less than $3k in the entire month of December playing on stars. Obv would be based on above terms etc.

gl in this
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Originally Posted by jim_money
So if OP can start tables, how messy will this get when PTR starts missing hands? I think OP is doomed anyways, but I think there's a potential for this to get ugly.
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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_
this will be hard, gl op
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
damn that is going to be interesting for a bunch of reasons


alot of the guys that usually place high on the ugl at nl100 will be grinding even more this last month because of sne/bonuses or whatever they might be trying to go for, plus ptr sometimes just might miss a session or hands or whatever and it will just stress/tilt you out so ****ing much that it could have an adverse effect
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Originally Posted by DPred123
lol, he's got no chance
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Originally Posted by i like disco
you sir are a sick man. gl with this.
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Originally Posted by kylephilly
the sickest thing about this prop bet is it's kind of out of your control, like if some dude decides to just outgrind you or runs like jesus, you could play your A poker the entire month and still lose, pretty sick
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Originally Posted by Texas_Oldham
Wow what a sick prop bet. Jalex too. You don't *** with the jalex.

GL silent one. I really don't think you can do this but I won't be betting as it looks like it is a disaster waiting to happen / people may shoot angles hard here. I'd feel confident that there's nobody better than jalex to judge but you might want 2 more (CJ / hodge) to be on the safe side? I'd offer to help as I'm not betting but I have a sick busy December. GL!
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Originally Posted by Kylebranham
Really doubt OP will make this bet but I hate having part of my roll tied up for 1 month so I'm not gonna bet.
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Originally Posted by Money022
This is a crazy bet considering how many hand PTR is missing, nothing new in this thread, I know. This is just crazy. Good luck though, you are a sick sick man.
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Originally Posted by pokerhat
I actually think its a very good idea for a prop bet compared to most. I said right at the start this will be very difficult but i wish you all the best OP

it will certainly be interesting to follow as im determined to try and finish above you...still considering a bet....
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Originally Posted by clyro
Worst month to do it as people will be grinding extra hard. Good luck though, will be following
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Originally Posted by journeyman54
As long as quads doesn't take another month off from the online pokers or decides to move up... You sir... Have no chance. But GL anyways
i quoted/filtered those parts from this thread and the interest thread just to try and encourage more action! i cant attempt this bet without enough action but i hate to just say "sorry guys, bet is cancelled" after already promising people I wont back out. idk but im kind of insulted on how my action hasn't filled up. perhaps im being too impatient, but i took a look at grears december prop bet thread where he offered 6 to 1 and he got raped on how dumb and easy the bet is, but still managed to fill up his 30k in action? his prop bet is 100% player dependent, he CAN do it if HE wants. mine on the other hand depends on so many factors and i feel like its alot harder bet!

first of all, ive NEVER played more then 10 tables of cash games, (though I 16 tabled 6$ sngs a year ago). 2nd, i dont have any idea how I will stack up against pokerstars players, who apparently, according to PTR, have the lowest average winrate in comparison with all the other tracked sites, of which im competing against every single site for the 100nl leaderboard! on top of this, even on the euro site ive played on, over 200k hands at 100nl I was -0.7BB/100 (posted graph earlier in this thread). also, even if I play my A game and run really well I still have no guarnatee of winning or coming close to 1st place on the leaderboard, because I may not have the skills required to get a good enough winrate, and the bet is community dependent so if another good 100nl player decides to run really well and play alot of hands, I will get crushed. also, i may run bad in terms of PTR tracking, as pointed out in a private message from a bettor, he made 14k in a month but PTR only tracked him making 9k. if a scenerio like that happened to me, its just another factor of me having no chance to accomplish this. looking at the last 4 months, 1st place ranged from 12000-18500$ with average 14700$. with close to 5BB/100 and 200k hands.

im not sure what else to say, but i really didn't think there would be an issue with a lack of action. perhaps its because people are not familiar with a type of bet like this and are all use to the standard "ill play crazy volume and profit" bets which are 100% player dependent. perhaps its also because they feel this bet looks too hard to and looks suspicious that there may be some cheating attempts. well, I assure you I am NOT going to cheat and I really hope no one shoots any angles for this bet which is why I got Jalex to be the judge, because he is a sick and well respected judge! the rules seem fair and clear to me, and i really thing this is a great bet for the community to particpate on.

was hoping to have actioned filled within the next 4 days so I have enough time to see how much I have to deposit onto pokerstars for the escrowing/playing and any other preperations such as buying a webcam. sorry to those who bet if I have to cancel this prop bet but im not trying to just back down because im scared or anything, the only reason is because i wouldnt have enough action to attempt this.
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11-23-2010 , 10:20 PM
Lower the minbet you will probably get more action. Losing $600 might crush my soul.
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11-23-2010 , 10:28 PM
ok my $1500 to ur $250, might take more
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11-23-2010 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AlligatorBloodFTW
Lower the minbet you will probably get more action. Losing $600 might crush my soul.
what did you have in mind?

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Originally Posted by franxic
ok my $1500 to ur $250, might take more
okay, reserved.

RESERVE LIST: 6 to 1 in my favour
Esandwhizz - 3k
tightmaniac - 1.8k
rays champ in 08 - 3k-6k
realestate - 1.2k
I_poke_4_fun - 1.2k
handbaggio - 2-3k
king fish - 0-1000$
shipit2kg - n/a
splashthatb0t - 0.6k - 1.2k
franxic - 1.5k

escrowed so far:
Kakitee - 18k
the_most10 - 0.6k
INSPIRON - 0.6k
kerpowski - 1.8k

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silent_0ne 3.5k to 21k
willing to take up to 10k action!
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11-23-2010 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
get grinding!
Sorry. Hell week so far at work. All I had in me today was bare minimum for iron man.



Almost at a minbet!

Running total for bet: $408.45

(anyone wanna lay me 6-1 that I make enough this week to lay a bet against OP? :P)
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11-23-2010 , 11:57 PM
reserve my 30k to win 5k

want to do a bit of research and don't have the time right now, will confirm/send on FTP within 24h

edit: would prefer a 2nd judge/escrow whom I am more familar with. nothing against jalex but I think 2 judges >>> 1.

Last edited by GoMukYaSelf; 11-24-2010 at 12:03 AM.
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11-24-2010 , 12:13 AM
just sent 1800.
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11-24-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
what did you have in mind?

I'd put up 300

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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
reserve my 30k to win 5k

want to do a bit of research and don't have the time right now, will confirm/send on FTP within 24h

edit: would prefer a 2nd judge/escrow whom I am more familar with. nothing against jalex but I think 2 judges >>> 1.
nm
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11-24-2010 , 02:48 AM
didn't read the thread before... jalex seems pretty legit, I'm ok with him being sole judge. Confirm my bet and I will ship on FTP. My 30k to win 5k.

P.S. Not sure if I am potentially missing something here... I am not familiar with nl100 or OP, if anyone with some inside information PM's me with a legitimate reason why I shouldn't take this bet (everything will be 100% confidential) and as a result, I decide to back out. I will ship them $100 as a reward.
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11-24-2010 , 03:06 AM
RESERVE LIST: 6 to 1 in my favour
Esandwhizz - 3k
tightmaniac - 1.8k
rays champ in 08 - 3k-6k
realestate - 1.2k
I_poke_4_fun - 1.2k
handbaggio - 2-3k
king fish - 0-1000$
shipit2kg - n/a
splashthatb0t - 0.6k - 1.2k
franxic - 1.5k
GoMukYaSelf - 30k

escrowed so far:
Kakitee - 18k
the_most10 - 0.6k
INSPIRON - 0.6k
kerpowski - 1.8k
tightmaniac - 1.8k

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silent_0ne 3.8k to 22.8k
willing to take up to 10k action! (edit: which appears to be full now with the reserved bets)

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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
didn't read the thread before... jalex seems pretty legit, I'm ok with him being sole judge. Confirm my bet and I will ship on FTP. My 30k to win 5k.

P.S. Not sure if I am potentially missing something here... I am not familiar with nl100 or OP, if anyone with some inside information PM's me with a legitimate reason why I shouldn't take this bet (everything will be 100% confidential) and as a result, I decide to back out. I will ship them $100 as a reward.
everything i've said in this thread and my interest thread is 100% true! but just incase, ill give the insider 101$.

Last edited by Silent_0ne; 11-24-2010 at 03:26 AM.
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11-24-2010 , 04:55 AM
This seems like it should be at best 10 to 1 if it was done by a top 5 reg at .5/1 that puts in lots of volume.

It looks too good to be true. I feel like OP must have some reason to think he's got a much better chance at this than someone else would, because otherwise it's burning money.

If everything is straight up, and nothing is being overlooked here, I don't see how OP would have better than a 1 in 1000 chance here. This really doesn't make sense.

I'm going to assume that since OP is friends with CTS, that he will be coaching and freerolling a good chunk of the action.

I just keep thinking why would a guy who can't beat .5/1 10 tabling a euro site think he can move to a tougher site and not only beat the game but be #1. There's either more to this, or it will be the biggest epic fail on 2+2.

Part of me wishes that I could throw some money down, but I can't help but wonder why OP can have > 0 confidence in this bet.
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11-24-2010 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Klairic
This seems like it should be at best 10 to 1 if it was done by a top 5 reg at .5/1 that puts in lots of volume.

It looks too good to be true. I feel like OP must have some reason to think he's got a much better chance at this than someone else would, because otherwise it's burning money.

If everything is straight up, and nothing is being overlooked here, I don't see how OP would have better than a 1 in 1000 chance here. This really doesn't make sense.

I'm going to assume that since OP is friends with CTS, that he will be coaching and freerolling a good chunk of the action.

I just keep thinking why would a guy who can't beat .5/1 10 tabling a euro site think he can move to a tougher site and not only beat the game but be #1. There's either more to this, or it will be the biggest epic fail on 2+2.

Part of me wishes that I could throw some money down, but I can't help but wonder why OP can have > 0 confidence in this bet.
I feel a bit the same, but who are we to judge. There's already someone out there who will make sure it's all fair
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11-24-2010 , 05:26 AM
im mostly just intrigued to see how things play out. dont really want to touch this
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11-24-2010 , 05:45 AM
want $1200 to win $200
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11-24-2010 , 11:05 AM
klairic confirmed puss
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