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12-16-2007 , 05:35 PM

Clovis8

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Anyone able to beat this? This is for 25c/50c 6-max NLHE. At least its nice to see I am not playing too bad,just running bad

Last edited by Clovis8; 12-16-2007 at 05:47 PM.

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12-16-2007 , 05:42 PM

Chump Change

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It depends on the steaks. At 2-4 or something this is like meh but at a micro level it's like whoa.

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12-16-2007 , 05:43 PM

Clovis8

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this is 25c/50c 6 max NL!

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12-16-2007 , 05:45 PM

The Hiro

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"contains data from untested sites"

Are you using Bodog or Prima or similar that doesnt show both hands at showdown? Because the program doesnt work on those sites.

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12-16-2007 , 05:46 PM

Clovis8

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its betfair, and it seems to be working fine. These numbers match my PT database.

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12-16-2007 , 05:47 PM

Nimda

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The graph is meaningless. You need to show the blue line.

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12-16-2007 , 05:51 PM

Clovis8

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12-16-2007 , 05:53 PM

Toasta

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

this is 25c/50c 6 max NL!

weak, nl50sh also

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12-16-2007 , 05:57 PM

Nulle

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Originally Posted by Nimda

The graph is meaningless. You need to show the blue line.

its not meaningless to show all-in luck.

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12-16-2007 , 05:58 PM

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LucidDream

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OMG...7bi below expectation. u run so bad dude.

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12-16-2007 , 06:00 PM

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Clovis8

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Originally Posted by LucidDream

OMG...7bi below expectation. u run so bad dude.

7bi? I am new to this program so maybe I am mistaken. I am not running bad? If so please tell me so I don't misinterpret the stats.

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12-16-2007 , 06:19 PM

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Jazzy3113

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you know whats running bad? Those limits you are playing. There is no job on earth that is worse, than playing that many hands and not even coming close to wining or losing 1k. Jesus man.

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12-16-2007 , 06:24 PM

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Chump Change

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Originally Posted by Jazzy3113

you know whats running bad? Those limits you are playing. There is no job on earth that is worse, than playing that many hands and not even coming close to wining or losing 1k. Jesus man.

Is this a running joke or...

Yeah, sitting in the comfort of you home playing micro stakes is hell on earth compared to the heavenly bliss that is cleaning the grease traps at McD's.

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12-16-2007 , 07:54 PM

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rakemeplz

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Originally Posted by Chump Change

Is this a running joke or...

Yeah, sitting in the comfort of you home playing micro stakes is hell on earth compared to the heavenly bliss that is cleaning the grease traps at McD's.

I don't get it either, especially since in the greater scheme poker players dont even make that much compared to athletes/musicians whateva.

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12-16-2007 , 08:22 PM

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ike

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Originally Posted by rakemeplz

I don't get it either, especially since in the greater scheme poker players dont even make that much compared to athletes/musicians whateva.

professional poker players on average do much better than professional musicians and there are only a few outlier musicians who make more than the best poker players. in fact there are quite a few professional musicians on 2p2 who use poker as secondary income.
the athlete comparison is closer but still off. out of millions of kids who want to grow up to be athletes and hundreds of thousands who get at least as far as taking high school sports very seriously, only a few hundred (maybe thousand?) people are presently making more money than a good MSNL'er playing sports.

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12-16-2007 , 08:24 PM

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ImsaKidd

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Originally Posted by Nimda

The graph is meaningless. You need to show the blue line.

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DAMMIT PHIL CAN U ONLY LET PPL WHO AR NE TNOT ******ED DL THSAI S****ING POKEREV

IM A LITTLE PISSED OFF THANKS MR 25 POSTS

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12-16-2007 , 08:50 PM

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creative

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ike, there are thousands making more than what msnlers do if you count {soccer, basketball,football,hockey,baseball,"xtreme sports"}

but i agree, msnlers def are comparable

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12-16-2007 , 09:14 PM

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Readzie

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edit

Last edited by Readzie; 12-16-2007 at 09:16 PM. Reason: moron

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12-16-2007 , 10:05 PM

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Llamaman

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The graph is meaningless. You need to show the blue line.

WTF? The all in luck graph is a better measure for how lucky you are compared to the game analysis one with the blue line.

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12-16-2007 , 11:25 PM

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unperson

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Pfft, 7 Buyins.

PLO 200

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12-17-2007 , 05:47 AM

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cbt

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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd

just what i was thinking and going to type

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12-17-2007 , 10:21 AM

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nuggetz87

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Originally Posted by WoLfMaN 2.0

um the funny thing is he was right... OP could just be horrible at poker and lose a ton in non showdown pots (which he is regardless) and be running at expectation. So he needs to show the blue line.

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12-17-2007 , 11:14 AM

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Fonkey123

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Originally Posted by WoLfMaN 2.0

um the funny thing is he was right... OP could just be horrible at poker and lose a ton in non showdown pots (which he is regardless) and be running at expectation. So he needs to show the blue line.

OMG you are ******ed

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12-17-2007 , 11:23 AM

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AbreuTime

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Originally Posted by WoLfMaN 2.0

um the funny thing is he was right... OP could just be horrible at poker and lose a ton in non showdown pots (which he is regardless) and be running at expectation. So he needs to show the blue line.

I don't even have this stupid program and still know what it means. The "All-in Luck" tab shows hands that are all-in before the river, and compares your equity against what you won. Soooo, it is a pure measure of luck, since it just measures how bad you run once already all-in, compared to your expected win. Please don't comment on the graphs unless you read the caption of the graph. Oh, alhflsakjdhf;sjhdfljsadljfh.

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12-17-2007 , 11:36 AM

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Phildo

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

7bi? I am new to this program so maybe I am mistaken. I am not running bad? If so please tell me so I don't misinterpret the stats.

you're running bad but -7 BIs to all in luck isn't that crazy. i was down 7 buyins all in at nl100 until a recent spike in luck brought that up to -5 BIs. it was over twice as many hands though.

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