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Old 07-03-2006, 11:34 AM   #51
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Re: Normal BB/100?

i foresee a very heartbreaking downswing in your near future.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:38 AM   #52
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Re: Normal BB/100?

Great post man

I'm sure you have talent and you're on a sick heater! That's awesome!

Of course he'll hit a downswing, but that's kind of the ebb and flow of things eh?

With a bunch of study and effort I'm sure you'll excell in the games. gl bro.

btw that video is great, i really find the breath control fascinating
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:36 PM   #53
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Thanks for taking the time. Nice shot btw.
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Old 07-03-2006, 05:51 PM   #54
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I hate line fishing and I have no idea if your 50BB/100 or whatever is sustainable but GODDAMN spear fishing looks cool.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:34 AM   #55
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Here's some more pictures from SPEARFISHING.
Put the Slaughter on the fish when I went to Mexico.

My friends couldn't find the fish. They were diving down to 60 feet and coming up with nothing. I was hiding behind rocks in about 10 feet of water picking off fish as they swam by. They didn't see me.

Got about 150 pounds of fish. The way I'm holding the stringer, it looks like I have an Adolf Hitler Mustache.






These are my stats from 7/3 through 30 minutes of 7/4. I lost a little from my posting this morning at 200 nl. Decided to play some 400nl.

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Old 07-04-2006, 07:00 AM   #56
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Re: Normal BB/100?

Well that is no where near normal. You are on a hot streak from heal. I do not think I have ever heard of somone making 20-30k in 1 month of NL200 with the occasional NL400, and thats where your headed.

If indeed these stats are real, I really suggest you prepair yourself for a losing session and not go on tilt giving all those winnings away. EVERYONE has loosing sessions, but you have put yourself on such a pedistal with those winnings I really do not want to see the night you lose. When you have your first losing night. Please walk away from the table. Do not chase those winnings when you are on tilt.
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Old 07-04-2006, 07:50 AM   #57
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Well that is no where near normal. You are on a hot streak from heal. I do not think I have ever heard of somone making 20-30k in 1 month of NL200 with the occasional NL400, and thats where your headed.

If indeed these stats are real, I really suggest you prepair yourself for a losing session and not go on tilt giving all those winnings away. EVERYONE has loosing sessions, but you have put yourself on such a pedistal with those winnings I really do not want to see the night you lose. When you have your first losing night. Please walk away from the table. Do not chase those winnings when you are on tilt.
dude

my buddy is the second coming of baronzeus. he wont run bad until he has about 300k.
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Old 07-05-2006, 02:14 AM   #58
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Re: Normal BB/100?

So I moved up limits and played some 600 no leeeeemit today. 27.7 BB/100 hands



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($640)
BB ($715.10)
UTG ($462.99)
MP ($1382.97)
CO ($641.68)
Button ($148.18)

Preflop: SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, CO calls $12, 3 folds.

Flop: ($45) T, 3, 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $11, CO calls $11, UTG folds.

Turn: ($67) K (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $27, MP calls $27.

River: ($121) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $66, MP raises to $674.37, CO calls $525.68 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1387.05

Results in white below:
MP has 4c 5c (straight, six high).
CO has Ks Tc (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: MP wins $1387.05.
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Old 07-05-2006, 02:33 AM   #59
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Re: Normal BB/100?

Very nice post. I thought it was an anomaly to run at 91BB/100 hands (NL 100) when I made the switch from limit cash games to nl cash games recently, but your post proves that it is possible to run extremely hot for a long time. Actually my PT stats are very similar to yours, except the attempt to steals are in the 30s. Pretty scary coincidence. Cheers at luckboxing!
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:26 PM   #60
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Found out it takes me about 1000-1500 hands at 200 to make about 1000-1500 $
that's my normal day, about 4 hours
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:00 PM   #61
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Found out it takes me about 1000-1500 hands at 200 to make about 1000-1500 $

You are running hot. This is variance. Your stats indicate weak play in general and don't expect to win five buy-ins every day you play.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:15 PM   #62
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Any other suggestions?
off to a decent start for an hours play today.
no pictures of GF Naked. Had a video. bwahahah

WHAT girl......i wanna see this hot betty!
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:19 PM   #63
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So I moved up limits and played some 600 no leeeeemit today. 27.7 BB/100 hands



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($640)
BB ($715.10)
UTG ($462.99)
MP ($1382.97)
CO ($641.68)
Button ($148.18)

Preflop: SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, CO calls $12, 3 folds.

Flop: ($45) T, 3, 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $11, CO calls $11, UTG folds.

Turn: ($67) K (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $27, MP calls $27.

River: ($121) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $66, MP raises to $674.37, CO calls $525.68 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1387.05

Results in white below:
MP has 4c 5c (straight, six high).
CO has Ks Tc (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: MP wins $1387.05.

are u just watching??......
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:49 AM   #64
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Found out it takes me about 1000-1500 hands at 200 to make about 1000-1500 $

You are running hot. This is variance. Your stats indicate weak play in general and don't expect to win five buy-ins every day you play.
CTS, I win 5 or more everyday I play. Today was no different. I think I can win 10 but literally I play 4-6 hours max a day on ONE monitor.

If winning 5 buy ins every day within 4-6 hours is weak, I am the weakest mother F'er around. But I'm not. "In fact, I can spell, do math and run faster than your kids."
- Maddox.

How do my stats indicate weak play? I know how to make people give me their chips. Maybe it's not the way you play. That's fine. Different styles for different people. What I do know is that whether I play on FTP, Party, or other, it's the same.

Curious to what you mean by "VARIANCE" when my Volume / preflop raise is the same. My winnings are pretty much the same. etc etc etc. I'm stacking people all the time.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:51 AM   #65
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So I moved up limits and played some 600 no leeeeemit today. 27.7 BB/100 hands



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($640)
BB ($715.10)
UTG ($462.99)
MP ($1382.97)
CO ($641.68)
Button ($148.18)

Preflop: SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, CO calls $12, 3 folds.

Flop: ($45) T, 3, 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $11, CO calls $11, UTG folds.

Turn: ($67) K (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $27, MP calls $27.

River: ($121) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, CO bets $66, MP raises to $674.37, CO calls $525.68 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1387.05

Results in white below:
MP has 4c 5c (straight, six high).
CO has Ks Tc (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: MP wins $1387.05.

are u just watching??......
What do you mean am I just watching? You don't get HH from just watching. In this game I am MP. Knew he was going to bet. I put him on exactly King, Ten.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:54 AM   #66
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Re: Normal BB/100?

Doesn't hurt when your opponent hits a backdoor flush draw and thinks you have a straight. Played some 400 nl and 200 today.





Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($394)
SB ($551.58)
BB ($282.08)
UTG ($336.70)
Hero ($786.70)
CO ($690.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T, A. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($16) T, 8, Q (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $7.

Turn: ($30) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11, BB calls $11.

River: ($52) K (2 players)
BB bets $85, Hero calls $764.70 (All-In), BB calls $175.08 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1076.78

Results in white below:
BB has 8d 5d (flush, king high).
Hero has Td Ad (straight flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $1076.78.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:58 AM   #67
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Re: Normal BB/100?

ezspear,

post your PT stats for ALL of your hands. not just when you run hot.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:01 AM   #68
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Re: Normal BB/100?

I just feel I have a good vision and can read what players have.

Here's one example
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($667)
SB ($60.09)
BB ($266.90)
UTG ($204.70)
MP ($190)
Hero ($392.14)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 4. SB posts a blind of $1. Hero posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($11) J, A, T (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($11) J (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $8, Button calls $8, SB folds, BB calls $8, MP folds.

River: ($35) K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $25, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $60

Results in white below:
Button has Qs 5c (straight flush, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins $60.


I saw Qs X, I didn't see House. I saw royal flush. I said to him "show royal"
Took a while so he could unclick his box, then I folded.

He showed royal
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:12 AM   #69
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yvesaint, Im doing waht your avatar is doing ...

buddy show us your overall stats, a couple of snippets amounting to a couple hundred - thousand hands here and there dont mean much. No ones trying to put you down, but you are either A.) a poker god or B.) on a very very big heater. And in all honesty Im going to have to believe its B. This is something that can very well happen to loose hyper-agressive players.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:20 AM   #70
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post your PT stats for ALL of your hands. not just when you run hot.
Hi Yves, I've posted every single day I've played. I took a vacation in the middle for 4 days to go to Vegas. While there I played 200nl and some 400 on my laptop and won 2000 dollars over the course of 2-3 hours on 2 nights after I left the casino. Casino play is just too slow. I'm thinking of adding some more monitors as the overlap right now is ridiculous. Maybe I just need a giant monitor??

As I said at the beginning of the thread, I just got pokertracker. My friend said normal BB/100 for limit is around 2. I thought this was RIDICULOUSLY low, which was the impetus for my starting this thread. Not to boost my own ego, as you can tell there are so many criticizing, I wasn't asking for any of it.

What do I want to do? I want to improve my play, but I don't want to be some generic copycat whatever 20/15 means or whatever my 30/8 means. From what I've read most people disagree with this. I like my style of play and find that I can win when in the right mindset. If i just lost a big pot, I think about it, but not dwell on it. Other players who lose big pots are the guys I want to play with. They tilt right my way.

I'm good at heads up but I've only done 2-3 tables max of this. Table gets full when they see the high AVG POT anyway from someone getting stacked.

I had a decent 1 hour session yesterday when I was 4 tabling 200
It was early and I had to wake up early so I left after making a few hundred. I posted all the stats.

This is good, but not great: if I stay on the table a full 4 hours or so. I did this at the beginning from 6/20 up until my trip to Vegas on 6/29, but lately I have been getting interrupted a lot.

Phone calls, other internet games, dinner, family, girls, etc. Usually I'm on a single table 2 hours max.


7/6/2006 1 hour play


I wish I knew how to take Screenshots when I was playing more full tilt

I had close to 3000 at 100nl. It all started when My friend introduced me to the site by giving me a $25.00 gift certificate for Xmas. I started at low limits (it's nice how they have LOW LOW LOW limit NL on that site). I worked it up over the course of a few days to a couple grand. Yum Yum. I love a juicy game. Juicy...
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:23 AM   #71
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Doesn't everybody love how the fish think there sharks
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:24 AM   #72
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ezspear,

"My friend said normal BB/100 for limit is around 2. I thought this was RIDICULOUSLY low, which was the impetus for my starting this thread."

guess what youre playing. NO limit. duh, theres a difference. normal BB/100 for NL is anywhere from 5-10. youre playing at 200 and 400 nl, where a 5 ptbb/100 winrate is easily achievable. anything above 10 is running hot.

if these are the only hands you have youve got maybe 10k-15k hands. in the long run, thats nothing. come back when you have at least 100k hands and you might be coming close to your true winrate
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:24 AM   #73
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buddy show us your overall stats, a couple of snippets amounting to a couple hundred - thousand hands here and there dont mean much. No ones trying to put you down, but you are either A.) a poker god or B.) on a very very big heater. And in all honesty Im going to have to believe its B. This is something that can very well happen to loose hyper-agressive players.
Hi boomshakalaka,

Point taken. I don't think I'm hyperaggressive. Do you? I raise 8% of my hands from what ptrack tells me.

I don't think I'm a poker god. I am a student of the game but I have a great memory and can remember what players do in certain situations. I think it helps to play online since I look up most of my HH.

As in anything, with my business, I want to know my customers, my target market, etc.

I'll continue to post. I like the feedback on this thread.

Thanks

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Old 07-07-2006, 06:28 AM   #74
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I guess you're making a stab at me. I'll bite. I never said I was a shark. I was actually asking for feedback at the beginning, but rude people who can't spell (read: YOU) attack me.

If anybody is curious as to what rick305 is referring to, I folded the second nuts (6,4) on a 5 7 8 flop. Call me stupid or whatever, but I won with the 4, 5 vs his KT top two pair a few hands later.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:29 AM   #75
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"My friend said normal BB/100 for limit is around 2. I thought this was RIDICULOUSLY low, which was the impetus for my starting this thread."

guess what youre playing. NO limit. duh, theres a difference. normal BB/100 for NL is anywhere from 5-10. youre playing at 200 and 400 nl, where a 5 ptbb/100 winrate is easily achievable. anything above 10 is running hot.

if these are the only hands you have youve got maybe 10k-15k hands. in the long run, thats nothing. come back when you have at least 100k hands and you might be coming close to your true winrate
Yep, that's what I heard. 100k or 200k.

I'll continue to post. Seriously I get bored of making money sometimes. I'll probably do an 8 hour day one of these days...
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