After one year of playing I am running 40 buy-ins below EV playing 6 max
Bad runs occur, however, I see KK not winning as much as it should nor AK or AKs



Really having hard time trusting online poker.... may just retire lol

Had to downgrade to playing the micros, that alone is degrading in itself...
But after playing 4 million hands online since 2011, I do see a lot of the math not adding up.

wondering if anybody else with a large database come across the same.....

P.S. ok trolls insert your comments below LOL
comments I expect, "oh, yeah online poker is rigged" from the guys who haven't played 100k hands yet LOL

Or, "Why on earth would they rig online poker", again from the ones who have played less then a year

My favorite, "Small sample"..... 4 million hands isn't a small sample.....

There has to be more players other then I who runs this bad over large sample....HAS TO BE

Dont forget to pay taxes on your winnings


Also the real problem is you tried to use your email as your 2+2 username.

Fold pre

why on earth would they rig online poker?

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are you stil win tho?

Wow you run so bad no way tell us more

Also, please don't quit poker. We need more fish that don't understand basic math.

More hands = more variance, not less, lol.

Play another 50 million hands

Hard to read ur graph but if you dedicated your life to poker for a year and made $7K thats hardly a brag. Mickey Ds pays more then that.

I had a very similar situation over 4.1 million hands since 2010 and I solved it by throwing salt over my shoulder every 13 minutes.

Yes it is normal

Bad luck is obv normal op

You have to play for infinite years for the math to even out.

Who are these "trolls" you speak of OP?

troll #1
by throwing salt over my shoulder every 13 minutes.
troll #2
We need more fish that don't understand basic math.
troll#3
why on earth would they rig online poker?

i will try the salt trick, TY...bless you for your contribution

never said it WAS rigged, said I don't trust it

been playing for years and do understand variance..... Aa KK AK AKs and QQ are 50 buy-ins below EV.... that's a heck of a variance lol

Get it in PF turn or flop with 70-80% equity is 20 buy-ins below EV-- ok, variance

the hands you expect to win, that have always won you money are suddenly winning a LOT less money... kills your winrate

I have always run bad since...I play just for fun....but since they announced that they need to change things in order to get the recreational players coming back....i have run even worse..... I don't hit hands like a normal person would... this shows in PT4...I'm ok with that


I don't give a rat's ass about losing... I do worry about is running this bad and how many more do....

I play poker in a league on weds nights, out of the 100 regs who play, only 3 of us play online..... I haven't polled all of them, but the ones I know well all won't play because they don't trust it...

I'm like, am I the only gullible one?? LOL after playing 4 million hands, winning and losing is part of it... but in the long run math should even out...it isn't...

If I no longer trust online poker, how would I talk my friends into joining??? how many more will tell their friends "DO NOT PLAY ONLINE"??? We need more players not less....

Today we deal high rake, no rakeback, bots and variance...who would WANT to play????

Ok, thanks guys, going to Fallsview and gonna donate more money to the regs there lol

sincerely, Old, Retired and Running Bad...

You have typical loser player symptomsOP. can't beat the game so whine like a little girl and blame it on bad variance. Stick to the live games where there are people even worse then you and you might make some money. Or maybe you will do some study, improve and then realise how bad you were at poker.

OP why did you make two drawings of weird penises?

You're running below EV with KK/AK, and above EV with AA/QQ. Stop crying.
If you were good enough, you'd be making money even if you were constantly running 3bb/100 below EV (which you aren't).

Also, your username and email are supposed to be different. I hope your password isn't also the same.

I feel the same distrust of PS. I have been consistently a winner for several years in a row. But in November 2016 I made about 100 thousand cash, And then, as if someone turned off the light. Immediately after this ransom, I start losing every month.

Question to the author: please check if your "downstrick" started immediately after a large cashout.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...1#post52778087

Wait, what?

Not sure if you are a genius troll or literally ***** ******ed

He's right you ******. Think about it and come back when you figured it out.

Odds this happened and you made $100,000 in one month: 1 billion to 1

The worse is that 100k did not win on PS, but I changed my WSOP winnings to PS earlier. So I actually did not withdraw money from the system, but the program does not care and just punish regs for the withdraws...

If you can win 100k, anyone can.

Flip a coin 1,000 times, heads you win $1, tails you lose $1

Comes up heads 450 times. You are 50 flips below EV and running @45%

Flip it 1,000,000 times, comes up heads 490,000 times. You are 10,000 flips below EV and running @49%


49% > 45%. You're closer to the expected value (50%), but you're down a ****load more money. Most humans do not understand this concept.