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04-22-2005 , 04:06 PM


Sorry, I couldn't find a picture of an underage idiot.
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04-22-2005 , 04:48 PM
I know this topic has been covered pretty thoroughly, but I just couldn't resist this comedic gem.

First I wouldn't worry about REAL CASINOS taking business away from your parents living room, I mean your "casino"...

Also everyone knows how cheap it is to start one up. (maybe $125 right guys?.....)

If I were a dealer and had to choose between working for a legitimate casino and working for some kid in high school I would definitely go for the latter.

And even if it does cost more than your allowance to start a casino I'm sure you could just find all the fish in the area and take their rolls because you sound like a shark. So it sounds like you have a plan. When is the grand opening? Next week? I assume it won't take very long to get your idea off the ground.

By the way, shouldn't you be doing your homework instead of reading this post right now?
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04-22-2005 , 05:12 PM
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You will need $40,000 to get this off the ground. $40,012 if you want to buy a Harry Potter DVD to play on your flat-screens in the "casino".
Just for fun, four poker tables and two BJ tables:

Code Description Qty Each Total
10-2010 Blackjack Dealing Shoe 6 Deck
Heavy clear Acrylic $24.99 $49.98
10-2030 6 Deck Discard Holder with Top
Clear Acrylic 6 deck Capacity $8.95 $17.90
10-BIGBJ2 Professional Size BlackJack Table w/Removable Armrest
Padded Felt Table Top $299.99 $599.98
10-4010 Clear Chip Spacers
Solid Acrylic $0.25 $50.00
10-5030 Clear Acrylic Chip Rack/Tray
Holds 100 CHIPS for all styles. MADE IN USA $1.89 $378.00
10-DEALER Texas Hold'em Pro Dealer Kit
Includes Dealer & Blind Buttons Plus More!

[1:10-ltblnd--Little Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[2:10-5000--Real Casino Cards - One Deck:]
[1:10-5500--Professional Dealer Button:]
[10:10-4010--Clear Chip Spacers:]
[1:10-mblind--Missed Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[1:10-bgblnd--Big Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[1:10-kill--KILL BUTTON for Poker Game:]
[1:10-2040BLU--BLUE Blackjack Cut Card:]
[1:10-RESR--Reserved Button - Great for Gaming Tables:] $17.99 $143.92
10-REG1546BRI Copag™ Bridge Size REGULAR Index - Green*Pink Setup
100% Plastic High Quality $19.95 $239.40
10-5000-144 LOT OF 144 QTY Casino Poker Size Cards
ONE GROSS OF PLAYING CARDS

[144:10-5000--Real Casino Cards - One Deck:] $119.99 $119.99

20,000 chips...

10-DS25CENT Desert Sands Casino 10g 25 cent Poker Chip
$0.85 $680.00
10-DS1 Desert Sands Casino 10g $1 Poker Chip
$0.85 $8,500.00
10-DS5 Desert Sands Casino 10g $5 Poker Chip
$0.85 $4,250.00
10-DS25 Desert Sands Casino 10g $25 Poker Chip
$0.85 $2,550.00
10-DS100 Desert Sands Casino 10g $100 Poker Chip
$0.85 $850.00
10-DS500 Desert Sands Casino 10g $500 Poker Chip
$0.85 $170.00
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So just $18,000 so far. Tack on another $2,000 for chairs. I'll assume you've got space for all these food comps (mom won't mind giving up half the fridge and pantry), adequate parking, and a computer to track your "player points". If you are going to rake, you'll have to have dealers, at least a couple of who will have to have some experience and can act as the floor as well, especially on nights when you have to study or something. You are going to lose money before you make money, so you'll need $5,000 minimum to pay your employees until you start bringing in enough to cover salaries. Same with comps, another $2,000 in reserve for that. Tack on $1,000 more for a couple TVs.

Maybe you could open the doors for $28,000. When is the grand opening?
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04-22-2005 , 05:23 PM
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Sorry, I couldn't find a picture of an underage idiot.
Classic! I'm saving this pic!
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04-22-2005 , 05:37 PM
I get the impression everyone thinks this won't work (included sarcasm here)?

While you idea is not going to work its cool that you have ambition. Study up, get an internship witha casino or something, see how the business really works and what costs are involved. And then maybe if you save up a few million or find the investors you can open a legit casino in the future.
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04-22-2005 , 05:50 PM
Are you a better poker player than your friends? You can make a fair chunk of money just playing poker with them. You probably will have a higher edge just playing poker against them than you would banking roulette or dealing blackjack. Read some of the 2+2 books if you haven't already.

I think you ought to be very concerned about getting caught.

Time for a lame story. I got caught making book in high school. I wasn't taking that much money in bets. I had a notebook that I kept records in. The principal called me in one day and somehow had possession of my notebook. He starting giving me a great deal of grief about it. I pointed out that I knew that he had placed wagers in the "squares" pool at a local bar. (My dad was a drunk. I spent a lot of time in bars when I was growing up.) I suggested that he was being hypocritical and that it would probably be very bad for him if this got around. In retrospect, this was very foolish--I certainly would have played it differently if I had a chance to do it again (despite it working out pretty well). We came to an agreement. I was to keep the books at a much lower profile. I was to keep my fat mouth shut regarding his gambling. (I never saw his name on a pool again...I don't know if he started using initials or a pseudonym or stopped playing.) I wish that I had actually stopped at that time. I took a real bath on the '85 Superbowl.

Skip the casino idea.
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04-22-2005 , 06:00 PM
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You will need $40,000 to get this off the ground. $40,012 if you want to buy a Harry Potter DVD to play on your flat-screens in the "casino".
Just for fun, four poker tables and two BJ tables:

Code Description Qty Each Total
10-2010 Blackjack Dealing Shoe 6 Deck
Heavy clear Acrylic $24.99 $49.98
10-2030 6 Deck Discard Holder with Top
Clear Acrylic 6 deck Capacity $8.95 $17.90
10-BIGBJ2 Professional Size BlackJack Table w/Removable Armrest
Padded Felt Table Top $299.99 $599.98
10-4010 Clear Chip Spacers
Solid Acrylic $0.25 $50.00
10-5030 Clear Acrylic Chip Rack/Tray
Holds 100 CHIPS for all styles. MADE IN USA $1.89 $378.00
10-DEALER Texas Hold'em Pro Dealer Kit
Includes Dealer & Blind Buttons Plus More!

[1:10-ltblnd--Little Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[2:10-5000--Real Casino Cards - One Deck:]
[1:10-5500--Professional Dealer Button:]
[10:10-4010--Clear Chip Spacers:]
[1:10-mblind--Missed Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[1:10-bgblnd--Big Blind Button for Poker Game:]
[1:10-kill--KILL BUTTON for Poker Game:]
[1:10-2040BLU--BLUE Blackjack Cut Card:]
[1:10-RESR--Reserved Button - Great for Gaming Tables:] $17.99 $143.92
10-REG1546BRI Copag™ Bridge Size REGULAR Index - Green*Pink Setup
100% Plastic High Quality $19.95 $239.40
10-5000-144 LOT OF 144 QTY Casino Poker Size Cards
ONE GROSS OF PLAYING CARDS

[144:10-5000--Real Casino Cards - One Deck:] $119.99 $119.99

20,000 chips...

10-DS25CENT Desert Sands Casino 10g 25 cent Poker Chip
$0.85 $680.00
10-DS1 Desert Sands Casino 10g $1 Poker Chip
$0.85 $8,500.00
10-DS5 Desert Sands Casino 10g $5 Poker Chip
$0.85 $4,250.00
10-DS25 Desert Sands Casino 10g $25 Poker Chip
$0.85 $2,550.00
10-DS100 Desert Sands Casino 10g $100 Poker Chip
$0.85 $850.00
10-DS500 Desert Sands Casino 10g $500 Poker Chip
$0.85 $170.00
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Subtotal: $13,949.38

Plus:
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Your Shopping Cart
Item Unit
Price Qty. Subtotal
Finest Wood Texas Holdem Table w/Cup Holders & Chip Area

[Remove]
999.00 3996.00

Subtotal for Poker-Wholesale.com: 3996.00

So just $18,000 so far. Tack on another $2,000 for chairs. I'll assume you've got space for all these food comps (mom won't mind giving up half the fridge and pantry), adequate parking, and a computer to track your "player points". If you are going to rake, you'll have to have dealers, at least a couple of who will have to have some experience and can act as the floor as well, especially on nights when you have to study or something. You are going to lose money before you make money, so you'll need $5,000 minimum to pay your employees until you start bringing in enough to cover salaries. Same with comps, another $2,000 in reserve for that. Tack on $1,000 more for a couple TVs.

Maybe you could open the doors for $28,000. When is the grand opening?
You thought about this WAY to much
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04-22-2005 , 07:27 PM
thanks hedge, alot of good points
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04-22-2005 , 07:29 PM
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I think the critical thing here is to be sure to schedule casino nights when your parents won't be home AND make all participants sign an agreement saying that they will remain completely still and quiet should your parents return home early.

IMO, these two things are a must.
dont know if this is sarcasm or not. but anyways, parents arent a problem. my moms cool with it.
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04-22-2005 , 07:34 PM
very true, a lot of good points. i think some of the things you listed arent necessary, and some of it i already got. but it does give some realization to the expenses i would incur.
i havent said yet, but i wont be doing this completely alone. this will be done with a couple other guys, who are rich, which helps. but thanks
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04-22-2005 , 07:37 PM
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Catch Annie Duke's kids Luke and Bo take on Phil Hellmuth at the final table!
lmao. nh
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04-22-2005 , 10:53 PM
The best advice I have is run an ad in the local paper. You also might try hanging signs on all the trees and telephone polls by your home. Yep, that's what I would do.
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04-22-2005 , 11:17 PM
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The best advice I have is run an ad in the local paper. You also might try hanging signs on all the trees and telephone polls by your home. Yep, that's what I would do.
that was cute.
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04-22-2005 , 11:29 PM
Shouldn't this be on Nickelodeon instead of ESPN2?
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04-23-2005 , 05:16 AM
Make sure you hit the shopping malls, libraries, churches, and police station too. Those old ladies and cops love places like yours.
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04-23-2005 , 12:41 PM
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Here is a young man looking to start a business w/ his mom's permission and you are giving him a hard time about it? I mean... if his mom says it's all right and his rich friends are going to help fund it, who are you all to ridicule him?

tworooks -- don't listen to them, just go ahead w/ it. I read an article this morning that said Michael Jackson likes to play cards w/ kids, but be careful, it said he's a real hustler. So maybe he would drive down to SD and play?
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04-23-2005 , 12:44 PM
Oh crap... I misread the article. It says he likes to play w/ kids while reading Hustler. Looks like your casino has no chance now dude... sorry...
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04-23-2005 , 04:02 PM
if you are actually going to do this, just don't let it get too big. only let your close(r) friends know about it. and definately don't let blackjack and table games in there, just start a cardroom. I knew a guy who ran a cardroom (four casino style tables, professional dealers, custom paulsons, free drinks etc.) three or four nights a week. he was lucky enough to live in a pretty secluded place so he didn't have to worry about all the cars parked in front of his place and he never had any problems with police. he was making about $500 a night in rake after all the expenses. one night he ran a roulette table and lost over 8k and had to sell all of his tables and random stuff in his cardroom to pay off his debts to the people he owed after that. so, anyway, just have card tables and don't worry about comping hookers. but, this can definately be fun and profitable if you don't let it get too big and don't get greedy.
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04-23-2005 , 04:21 PM
great. pulling in 500 a night in profit wouldnt be too bad. out of curiousity, what blinds were the tables that he had people there for? because, unfortunately i would probably have to sell drinks, because the tables wouldnt be huge rake makers(unless i can get all the chaldeans and their many cousins). i think that is true about the variance with blackjack, and it might be too tough to take it right off the bat. also, i live a in secluded place too. i am not really worried about a bunch of cars, because alot of the kids would be carpooling, and.....dropped off by their parents. lol-that is sure to recieve some funny replies. but yea, some information about your friends little operation would be great. thanks
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04-23-2005 , 05:21 PM
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i am not really worried about a bunch of cars, because alot of the kids would be carpooling, and.....dropped off by their parents.
wow
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04-23-2005 , 08:39 PM
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pulling in 500 a night in profit wouldnt be too bad
Ya think? Compared to the money you make from your paper route it should sound pretty damn good.
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04-23-2005 , 09:18 PM
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pulling in 500 a night in profit wouldnt be too bad.
And 500 an hour is about what your dad's lawyer will charge to keep you out of jail. Oh wait, you don't want to hear about that stuff. Sorry.
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04-23-2005 , 09:32 PM
this will get robbed/busted/shut down so fast it'll make your head spin.
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04-24-2005 , 01:53 AM
You may want to start prepping for the possibility of getting caught and going to prison as a 'plan B'...maybe your rich 'friends' can help you get ready for prison life...
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04-24-2005 , 11:00 PM
woohoo, 3rd highest viewed thread in recent "home poker" history. keep the replies coming
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