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07-11-2021 , 02:23 PM


Just moved up and I am facing this, I should be winning at close to 6bb/100 but yet I am barely above break-even. This is not even counting the suck outs and there have been plenty of those where V hit a one or two outer for 100b pots. This is over 20K hands! 20K, I understand losing 10 BI over a few thousand hands but this is 20K hands!



Who's dick do I have to suck on Pokerstars seriously?

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07-11-2021 , 03:21 PM
No strategy in BBV!
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07-11-2021 , 03:29 PM
Mine
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07-11-2021 , 03:47 PM
Not clicking Covid link. Suck less dicks
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07-11-2021 , 05:09 PM
Any competent player knows 20K hands is conclusive proof of win rates. You just suck.
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07-12-2021 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Vecissitude
I should be winning at close to 6bb/100
What makes you think that?
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07-12-2021 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
What makes you think that?
My all in adjusted is 6bb/100.
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07-12-2021 , 07:59 PM
Anecdotal evedence suggests that players from Florida experience winrates significantly below the all-in adjusted winrate.

By chance, is the OP from Florida?
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07-15-2021 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vecissitude
My all in adjusted is 6bb/100.
That doesn't mean anything. Just because you have an all in adjusted of 6bb/100 doesn't mean your win rate is 6bb/100.
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07-16-2021 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
That doesn't mean anything. Just because you have an all in adjusted of 6bb/100 doesn't mean your win rate is 6bb/100.
Kind of exaggerating no? Might not mean it is 6bb exactly, but it's sure a heck of a lot more than nothing.
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07-16-2021 , 12:14 PM
Sucking dicks will prolly improve that graph.
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07-16-2021 , 12:57 PM
I’ve never seen such variance in such a large sample size.

I mean, I once ran bad during a tournament, but never for this prolonged amount of time.

Have you tried sucking fewer dicks? Or perhaps keep the amount the same but vary the size of each individual penis?
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07-16-2021 , 01:29 PM
no strat in bbv: however, i will help you bcs you sound like a nice kid. When you suck 5 different dicks and you then suck your dads dick, it’s break even. Now you know. Not all dicks are ev+.
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07-17-2021 , 02:22 AM
Fold more rivers OP
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07-17-2021 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Fold more rivers OP

Shut up this is a serious tred
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07-24-2021 , 08:48 AM
OP, look at this: https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

Poker is a game of variance. 20,000 hands isn't nearly enough to determine your winrate in this example. If your true winrate was 6bb/100, there would be around a 20% chance that you'd breakeven or lose in that sample.
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08-06-2021 , 08:49 PM
Pokerstars PLO2z and PLO5z




Net Won Hand is the score
Net Won is the score with cashout

Selectively cashing out gave the expectation, and the opponents ran below EV. The difference is variance. Or it is possible those stats mean something other than I/everyone thinks they mean.

Maybe a bit strange a pick, but I happened to take these pictures today, looking up my old Races from Pokerstars. It shows a point or two.

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PLO2z at GGPoker, 20k total hands, I ran 9 stacks below EV in All-ins alone (HEM3 Races - I have posted it earlier) but broke even on the score overall.

When I ran (a lot) below EV with showdowns, I always ran below EV in non sds also, in case those graphs are showing what I think they are showing; in that case, it is double bad running. So, breaking even is pretty good, and doesn't matter in the long run when moving up. Some 6bb/100 in NLH is a reason for celebration, even if it is a regular table with reasonable players.

I didn't beat PLO5z for money, just beat the rake at GG and lost a bit at Stars. But not beyond the variance (even with 40k hands total). I did better at PLO10z, but that's meaningless (17k or so hands total). What matters here is how good I am. First at Stars, then at GG, and I am mainly done with 2 and 5 at least.

The way to beat the micro zooms is to have a balanced game (GTO)(because you need to practise it) and overfold in many cases and that with increasing experience beats at least the rake, that's a pretty likely result also considering it is so much variance and small differences, and IMO good enough to move up if one can afford it.

You will be seeing how you run bad and then make up to good green results, and then you will see the opposite, that you have 6bb/100 but play more, and it might go to zero, or even to -6bb/100. It doesn't happen after every 20k hands, but it happens. More so inside 5k, 10k, 20k hands. It is time to understand how the variance goes.

Looking at the statistics is a good way to start thinking about the runs, like one looks into the big losing hands after a bad run to see one played well enough. Helps psychologically to see one is playing well enough for the limit, and what the variance is more about.

The main thing is to get better and not make money, that though helps when moving up, but the micro zooms are not for making money but an awesome opportunity to get better cheaply.

I will next play regular tables and see if I can win anything. If not, I come back whining, in case I get enough hands in to have anything to contribute. At KK/PP I probably won't get any HHs, and not sure about my current mopping-up-money site yet. I built skill first, and now I aim to make money to move up, as I don't like dropping hundreds and thousands for moving up when facing bad variance.

One should not be all freaking out when it comes to 20k hands (in PLO). It might be happening even as often as one time in five in PLO? When looking at some mid-limit PLO pro's years long graphs.
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08-06-2021 , 09:11 PM
How much did you pay in taxes?
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08-07-2021 , 03:28 AM
My mum will be mad
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08-07-2021 , 03:42 AM
yep
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08-07-2021 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FranFran
no strat in bbv: however, i will help you bcs you sound like a nice kid. When you suck 5 different dicks and you then suck your dads dick, it’s break even. Now you know. Not all dicks are ev+.
Pure filth Franko
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