*you're (FYP)

and thank you SO MUCH for your valuable input! sounds like someone knows heaps about being scammed. maybe you should write a book.

Actually you should be the one to write a book about being scammed (FYP). I could write about how not to be scammed.

It wouldn't be very long:

Don't loan people you don't know money, and don't loan anybody you do know large amounts of money. The End

And since you seem to be a stickler for grammer could you edit that for me. Feel free to simplify it as well, since it seems complex for alot of people on here.

coprolagnia, move out of the micros, visit vegas, become friends with other grinders. And be around them for some time, then come back and say that you did never ever loan anyone any money whatsoever. If you manage this, you either 1) didnt made any friends 2) didnt go to vegas because your stuck in the micros.

Lending money in this business is std, sometimes you get burnt that's true, but that's very rarely and usually only happens once. Swapping irl money with online money is even more common and is way more +ev with transfers than cashing out and having it in hand when needed, then having to redeposit it and such when you get money you didnt need to use over from the trip, or won.

This all due to the hassle of moving big money through airports, and the general inconvenience. And for ALL foreigners like myself this is a extra big of a hassle because you robbed off like 2-3% from every cashout you make due to currency transitions everytime you move money, let it be moneybookers or directly to your bank account, and if you DO have a currency account in like USD you still need to convert money if you move money from a EURO site, and vise versa for USD players playing on EURO sites or USD-curreny players going to EURO places.

better off just go to the marketplace and ask for swaps, or get to know ppl irl and just swap at spot, easily done and safe. Im sitting with a couple of thousand USD@home right now which i really cant use because if i put it in my bank i lose roughly 8% of its value due to "admission costs and currency exchange", the bank here is brutal on that part, so im just waiting to go on another usd trip and spend it, what i should have done is make a post for a swap on random site and exchanged it before i left.


summarize, i dont really get why the OP get so much hate, either your a womanhater or your just a broke ass ****** who never ever will be in vegas with more than a couple of hundred in your pocket.
Sure, it was a strikeout, but she got the lesson learnt, and fairly cheap in my opinion. Thread is about preventing the scumbag to steal from someone else, so take the haterade towards op and shove it up your butt.

The OP said she didn't have a large bankroll and she gave most of it away, so I don't know why you act like she was some jet setting high roller.

Swapping money for money on the spot is fine, swapping real money for online money is also fine as long as you transfer me the money first otherwise your on your own. Swapping money against a check is an obvious scam and you would be completly stupid to do it.

For the record I've lived in vegas for about 6-12 months. I played all the time (for fun, not for a job.) I didn't bother making friends because I didn't want to play against people I was friends with, and even if I did I sure as hell wouldn't loan them money. I don't live there now, but I still play reguarly. I'm friendly with the regs and I wouldn't loan any of them anything over $5, and i doubt they would loan me money either.

Also I'm only hard on the OP because it sounds like she wants some sympathy for being scammed when it was her own fault. Telling her otherwise and coddling her won't help her in the least. In the real world (a place you might like to visit) most people live by the saying a fool and his (sorry - her) money is soon parted.

and another thing, do you really consider people whose real name you don't know friends? because if grinders are giving out fake names they don't consider you one.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consum...fakechecks.htm

I would rather stay in the micros and keep that "couple of hundreds in my pocket", then move to vegas and give it away to people I don't know and then start a thread about it.

[x] klang degen
[x] op degenerous Sucker

fine, i see your point but wether or not OP is looking for a little bit of sympathy along with it doesnt really matter, people(other, not you) derailing the thread with slandering random LOLs and crap to the OP is kinda unecessary since it takes away focus from the villain imo.


GL in future pokers all

I's confused? Did V have checks with his alias on them? If so, this is felony forgery, which in most states includes restitution as part of the standard judgement, so going to police is def +EV, not flushing chance of getting paid as others stated.

If check had V's real name on it, OP needs to work on attention to detail, but that still doesn't excuse theft.

Can we stop with all this "blame the victim" crap? The one responsible for Marc Klang's actions is Marc Klang. OP may not have made the wisest choices, but "lol, it's your fault" is just crap.

lol you were here for a year and "didn't bother making friends?" sorry buddy, but i don't think that was a personal choice.

also, if you re-read my initial post, NOWHERE did i beg for sympathy or handouts or anything of the sort. i simply made a post saying i got ripped off and then provided the community with as much information as i could. maybe you're reading all this into my posts because i'm a chick or whatever, but you're really not doing yourself any favors by trying to point out what an idiot i am.

for the record, i'm not an idiot. i've got a master's degree, i'm friends with some of the best players in the world and most people would consider me a valuable asset to their team. maybe my problem is that i'm a little too trusting, but that certainly won't be an issue for me in the future. keep in mind that i'm NOT the only person he's scammed (on this trip or in general) and as for details like "not knowing his real name" - giving me an alias was all part of the scam and by the time i figured everything out it was already too late.

even smart people get screwed sometimes. that's why i did everything in my power to correct the situation. and you know what? this morning i woke up with $1500 cash deposited into my bank account courtesy of Marc Klang's Daddy, something that probably NEVER would've happened unless i'd written this post blasting his kid and threatening to have him arrested. sure, it's not the full amount of what he owes, but we've drawn up a document stating that there is an outstanding debt that i'll be signing and bringing to a notary at the bank this afternoon.

so please, go back under the rock from whence you came and keep your negativity to yourself. you're not helping anyone. and hey, maybe if you quit it with the blame-throwing you'd actually be able to make a friend or two.

oh, wait, i forgot, you "didn't make friends" on purpose. yeeeah. that's totally it.

My post said I don't make friends at the poker table. Anyways you can try to insult me all you want, but I'm not the moron who got scammed twice by the same person. I could buy friends for a lot less than what you paid, and I would get their last name.

You should of figured it out when he asked for money against the check. It blows my mind that you were able to fall for such an obvious scam. Maybe your not as smart as you think you are.

Did they give you their real name? If not I wouldn't consider them a friend.

I doubt his dad is reading this thread.

Sounds like your trying to get sympathy to me, but hey you are the one with the masters or did you give that to Marc as well?

*you're

lol

troll.

correcting people's grammer is quite desperate, its one notch below making fun of someone's post count. Try to be above that.

*it's.

LOL. Stop giving trolls trolling lessons!

bahahahaha. wow, you sure took a lot of time putting that together. i'm SHOCKED that you didn't make any friends in an entire year in vegas.

Took me 5 mins, probably about as much time as it took Marc to scam you out of thousands of dollars.

okay, well, since I'm an idiot and you're friendless, maybe can we just call it even and you can go about ruining someone else's day.

merry christmas, toolbag.

*grammar

yeah, grammar doesn't look right. I'm sticking with grammer.

you'd make a good couple

that has a nice ring to it.

This guy is a total degenerate :/ My questions is, mainly being I'm from a mid-western state and don't see this, when these types become addicted to gambling and start losing, owing money to random people, getting felony charges, etc.. what does it take for them to get help? Like I wanna think there is a soul with morals and values, obviously he is lacking financial values, but it just seems like he is scumster spiraling outta control! If for w/e reason you're reading this, GET HELP! Seriously you have problems and they need to be fixed Mark.

LOL look at that guy why the F**k would you lend money to him....

know someone well enough to lend them 1k, don't get paid back and make a thread with name and picture on an internet forum? messed up.

You'd think that anyone that plays poker would know that lending money or staking a complete degen is -ev
Theres people in the staking forum with much better references and they can actually play poker not like this ******