I'm the worst running poker player 2013 - Page 2 - Poker Beats Brags and Variance

I wasn't playing out of my BRM at any point and I haven't even posted anything $ related so far. Ofcourse I will take shots with 15 stacks if there's a decent fish at the table.

seriously?

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03-09-2013 , 12:34 PM

#27

redline plz

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Let's get an argument going for why taking a shot with 15 stacks is a good idea aslong as:

Playerpool of regs on shotlimit = playerpool of regs on current limit (which would be the case from 600-1k on most tables)
Atleast 1 decent fish seated
Stop/Loss of max1BI is given
Obviously we are assuming that we are winningplayer at our current limit

I mean there's no point in a discussion because it's pretty obviously a (more varianceheavy) +EV decision.

@tobe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion

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03-09-2013 , 01:00 PM

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smellmuth

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Originally Posted by redline plz

kelly criteria assumes a) there isn't a huge penalty for going bust beyond the immediate EV and b) you won't be on life-tilt as you approach the bottom. Both of those assumptions seem to be false in your case.

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03-09-2013 , 01:05 PM

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deathorglory0

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Originally Posted by smellmuth

took the words out of my mouth.

can't handle 60 bi below EV but capable of profitable shot taking with 15 bi. ridiculous.

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03-09-2013 , 01:10 PM

#30

TedMosbyDaPlayer

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youre such a troll

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03-09-2013 , 01:14 PM

#31

redline plz

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Originally Posted by smellmuth

Agree. That's why nobody strictly uses kelly criteria in poker but a very few. I know that girah for example used a 10BI kellycriteria up 10kNL. Anyways we are protecting ourselves with the stoploss. Aslong as we have a strict stoploss which in this case as I wrote would be 1 stack maybe 2 stacks max it's completely fine to use this kind of BRM.

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Originally Posted by deathorglory0

can't handle 60 bi below EV but capable of profitable shot taking with 15 bi. ridiculous.

who are you talking to? Who can't handle 60bi below EV? What's the relation between somebody who can not handle 60bi below EV and profitable shot taking with 15BI? what are you even talking about lol

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03-09-2013 , 01:23 PM

#32

redline plz

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This thread is tragic. And I can't blame you for the hate. It's not your fault or mine but just something psychological. Aslong as you think I'm a losingplayer/troll/fish or whatever it doesn't matter what I say write or post your brain won't let you think about it from a rational perspective. So eventually I'm 110+ BI under EV and mostdefinitely the worst running pokerplayer 2013 but most of you will never understand it.

But you know what? It's fine. I forgive you.
pce

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03-09-2013 , 01:25 PM

#33

_irock

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You realize girah was exposed to be a fraud and a con artist correct?

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03-09-2013 , 02:53 PM

#34

Rufus the Jew

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Originally Posted by redline plz

sounds like you need some mindset coaching. some players just don't have what it takes to cut it in today's game. only the strong will survive and you are just another fish. the game has passed you by bro. maybe you should put that application in at mickey d's or go slang peanuts at the ballgame and you would probably make more than you will at the felt.

PM for coaching

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03-09-2013 , 05:36 PM

#35

North Squad

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If that's not solid coaching advertising idk what is ^^.

As for girah.... You realize that shot taking with 10 BIs when you know the other guy's hole cards isn't really shot taking? Right?

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03-09-2013 , 05:56 PM

#36

IamNotThere

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the 1 to 357 hands sector you were running over EV...

dont forget it...

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03-09-2013 , 07:36 PM

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DjSkyy

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i've taken shots with < 15 BI before. it often hasn't ended well.

i ain't gonna lie tho, this seems like some legit runbad. better ship negruanu that .99 imo.

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03-09-2013 , 08:05 PM

#38

POW

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I ran 120bi under EV twice over similar samples. In 2010 and end of 2012, happens. Can only accept the swings and mentally/financially prepare for them or quit.

ps I won more than McDonalds worker in 2012 Smellmuth, wish I coulda taken ur money on that bet too

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03-09-2013 , 08:12 PM

#39

oxiej

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Originally Posted by POW

Similair experience, ran up to 110 buyin down over a half year period. Every player with >5 years of online poker probably has experienced something similair or will most likely experience it in the coming 5 years.

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03-09-2013 , 08:17 PM

#40

shipit2kg

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you are not the worst running poker player, that i can assure you, take solace in that.

and while i understand the occasional rant(ive done it plenty) when 150bi+ below, sometimes wanna vent, you just come off like a whiny bitch with a strange sense of entitlement.

anyway work hard and gl.

Last edited by shipit2kg; 03-09-2013 at 08:44 PM.

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03-09-2013 , 08:35 PM

#41

prideitoff

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Originally Posted by DjSkyy

i've taken shots with < 15 BI before. it often hasn't ended well.

i ain't gonna lie tho, this seems like some legit runbad. better ship negruanu that .99 imo.

wait, its only 99c? u mean ive been sending him $98.01 too much this whole time?!?!

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03-09-2013 , 11:30 PM

#42

TedMosbyDaPlayer

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Originally Posted by redline plz

My pleasure, just trying to help you. Go back to school start over in micros accept what you are. A MSNL losing player. If you beat ssnl stick to it untill you can beat msnl. I sure with all the time you invest in poker its gonna happen for you to some kind of level.

GL! Stop blaming ev... I know giev money would approve.

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03-10-2013 , 12:01 AM

#43

redline plz

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lol man at first I was like what the **** does this idiot want again but eventually when you wrote "stop blaming ev... I know giev money would approve" you had me. it all makes sense now. Because how the **** can I even argue against that stunning evidence you dropped to backup the mountain of **** you consider a post

if you really know that giev money himself would approve, man then I'm definitely outa here

pce

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03-10-2013 , 01:40 AM

#44

North Squad

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I know this is shocking stuff, but moping about how the world aint fair and then losing your marbles on anyone who suggests that maybe it's time to rethink your game isn't going to garner you a whole lot of sympathy

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03-10-2013 , 03:52 AM

#45

Fayth

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Maybe take a break, or change what u're playing, like try PLO or sitngos/mtts more than what u're doing now with a fresh mindset.

and you're obviously not the only one who went through that, despite how hard you'd like to believe it

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03-10-2013 , 03:51 PM

#46

Imrahil

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i am the worst poker player 2013

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03-10-2013 , 04:03 PM

#47

_jimbo_

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I was the worst running poker player in 2011.

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03-10-2013 , 04:55 PM

#48

DirtySanchez80

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and worst of all.. poker in 2007 was sooo much easier. But i was so lazy.

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03-10-2013 , 05:30 PM

#49

torontoooo

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6 buyins under ev in 500 hands? Are you ****ing high or something? Get a grip or else get a new "career" ffs. What a joke.

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Originally Posted by redline plz

It's me. Yes. NL6max some fullring almost no HU and 110+ Buyins under EV. Probably even 120+. Excluding all the setups obv. This all happened between 01Dec and today. Which was pretty 180k hands~.

I went from November being a 1kNL reg shotting 2kNL -> to a 200NL losingplayer. I'm not really losing at 200 tbh. I'm probably even up with RB. But I dropped so incredibly hard on 400 and 600. My EV is somewhere in Africa but my green. Dnt even bother searching it

I don't have graphs to back this up except for the ones in my blog on here and my blog on pokerstrategy. Since Dec I kept purging my DB's after 2-3 weeks to get that restart feeling and motivate myself and I would've NEVER ever thought this would go anywhere close to a sick run. But this is it.

I haven't checked my BR but mentally I'm crushed. No matter how good I play I end up losing cash.

You know what. Today after purging another DB I was like lol this time you'll make it. 40 hours 200NL a-game not looking at graphs or session stats.

So I play and I ****ing get ****ed so hard **** sake

that's what they do to me on 200NL. I'm ****ing sick of this. I'm s i c k of this.The funny thing.Most of you start crying as soon as you hit a little downswing and your first reaction to this thread will be :"LOL theres alot of people running so much worse than you even I had bigger downswing"NO! just no. You have NOT.

Variance is such an unfair little bitch.

Enjoy this guys. You're the ones profitting on this so take it. Take my money take my luck I don't need that ****