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09-11-2022 , 05:56 PM

Chipmaster45

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 9

Pokerstars is an absolute joke!

I mean, how else can you explain idiots and donks jamming with 2's? (pocket twos) and I have Ace f***ing King (a head's up scenario that leaves them with two potential outs, as opposed to my six potential outs?) What happens? you guessed it, two's held, and I got screwed over.

second scenario's worse than that: two donks shove all-in, once again, I draw AK, so, I call. Both donks have pocket nines. What happens? You guessed it: even those donks literally having no outs, and I potentially have six outs (if not more, due to high cards hitting flop), and I get screwed again.

Please don't reply with "well, that's poker." because it's a lame excuse. I have been playing online poker for at least 5-7 years (on and off), and the donks seem only to have multiplied.

For reference, a donk is someone who plays/bets with literally any (and often times all) hands they are dealt. It's a truly stupid way to play. Problem is, Pokerstars doesn't care about odds, because this has been happening to me constantly not consistently, but all the time.

This is some ridiculous exaggeration; this is a fact. It is based on hand after hand played, where the donks treat every damned tournament like a f***ing freeroll, and I'm sick and tired of it.

Just a rant about two bulls*** tournaments that should have gone my way...

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09-11-2022 , 06:06 PM

DumbosTrunk

Verified Coach PLO5

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 7,272

Maybe you should stop getting it in behind. AK<pairs. Stop complaining. Get better.

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09-11-2022 , 06:10 PM

Morphismus

BBV Poker Player of 2022

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 24,268

well, that's poker

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09-11-2022 , 06:57 PM

FWWM

FOOT FF Fristion '15

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 12,499

That's poker, innit

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09-12-2022 , 04:47 AM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 32,974

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Originally Posted by Chipmaster45

Solid math.

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09-12-2022 , 05:55 AM

xdan

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 131

Hey OP
First scenario, pocket 2s is in front and does not have, or need ‘outs’

Your AK is behind and needs to hit one of its ‘outs’. Know the difference before coming here and having a sook

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09-12-2022 , 07:55 AM

MrCrown

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09-12-2022 , 11:13 AM

ejames209

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,698

well, that's poker.

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09-12-2022 , 01:20 PM

FWWM

FOOT FF Fristion '15

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09-12-2022 , 04:59 PM

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MrCrown

grinder

Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 428

I can't believe you think losing a couple of flips is a bad beat lol.

Go and play some spins. You'll enjoy that.

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09-12-2022 , 06:00 PM

#11

JVplay

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 100

AK is the most over rated and overplayed hand, which most will agree. I personally never win with AK, will jam in a tourney with 10bb or so, but High card doesn't mean much so I like to limp em or fold. lmao

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09-12-2022 , 06:46 PM

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CardiffGiant

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 528

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Originally Posted by ejames209

well, that's poker.

lame excuse

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09-12-2022 , 09:55 PM

#13

rivercityransom

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant

lame excuse

well, that's poker.

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09-12-2022 , 10:17 PM

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JayKon

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,444

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Originally Posted by rivercityransom

well, that's poker.

That's why they call it gambling.

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09-12-2022 , 11:08 PM

#15

Wolfferine

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Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 157

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09-13-2022 , 02:57 AM

#16

rivercityransom

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Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by JayKon

That's why they call it gambling.

It's not gambling if you have AK sir. An injustice was done here today. Don't you get it. They went in with 2s. 2s! That's the lowest pocket pair.

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09-13-2022 , 11:44 AM

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JayKon

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,444

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Originally Posted by rivercityransom

It's not gambling if you have AK sir. An injustice was done here today. Don't you get it. They went in with 2s. 2s! That's the lowest pocket pair.

Oh, how I hope this is a level. Pocket 2's wins 53% of the time over AK's 47%.

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09-13-2022 , 12:12 PM

#18

RacerExTex

Honorary Mod

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 777

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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

Solid meth.

fyp

OP, just remember AK = Anna Kournikova because even though it looks good it doesn’t win anything!

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09-13-2022 , 02:23 PM

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ejames209

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 2,698

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Oh, how I hope this is a level. Pocket 2's wins 53% of the time over AK's 47%.

where's your proof? I lost with AK to 22 just yesterday. Explain that!

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09-13-2022 , 04:46 PM

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JayKon

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,444

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Originally Posted by ejames209

where's your proof? I lost with AK to 22 just yesterday. Explain that!

Math. AK will lose to 22 53% of the time.

Explained.

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09-13-2022 , 05:52 PM

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rivercityransom

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Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Oh, how I hope this is a level. Pocket 2's wins 53% of the time over AK's 47%.

I did everything I could to not have to /s it for you.

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09-13-2022 , 07:22 PM

#22

DumbosTrunk

Verified Coach PLO5

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 7,272

AK=Anna Karennina, who killed herself by diving under a speeding train.

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09-13-2022 , 11:51 PM

#23

AlwaysFolding

Urban Pharmer

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 19,980

well, that's poker

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09-14-2022 , 07:15 AM

#24

Sheep86

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,622

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Originally Posted by JayKon

Math. AK will lose to 22 53% of the time.

Explained.

Can you please elaborate on this a bit more? I thought it was 50/50, because you either win or you don't.

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09-14-2022 , 07:42 AM

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rivercityransom

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Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 97

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Originally Posted by Sheep86

Can you please elaborate on this a bit more? I thought it was 50/50, because you either win or you don't.

Nono. You're both wrong. A and K are technically cards # 12 and #13 right. That's 25 total. Pocket 2s are 2 and 2. That's 4. That means that AK wins 6 times from every time 2s wins. Cause 2 is the lowest pocket pair and the weakest hand in the game. Some people think it's 72 but that's wrong. 7 + 2 = 9. Also you can make flushes and 2 different straights with 72.

I can coach you if you want but I'm very expensive. It took alot of hard work to learn this kind of advanced theorycrafting.

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