PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 48.5 BB
SB: 229 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 97.5 BB
MP: 110 BB (VPIP: 21.27, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.52, Hands: 469)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 9 9 Q
SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, SB raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (52 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB



PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 178 BB (VPIP: 20.71, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.96, Hands: 1,036)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 62.5 BB (VPIP: 17.19, PFR: 8.59, 3Bet Preflop: 1.67, Hands: 130)
UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 111)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 38.57, PFR: 25.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 72)
CO: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 93)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 2 players) T 9 5
Hero bets 9.5 BB, MP calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 22 BB, MP calls 22 BB

River: (78 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 61.5 BB and is all-in, MP calls 61.5 BB and is all-in



PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 43)
SB: 102 BB (VPIP: 23.16, PFR: 16.84, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 97)
BB: 393 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 31)
UTG: 93.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 222.5 BB (VPIP: 30.94, PFR: 25.28, 3Bet Preflop: 9.95, Hands: 547)
Hero (CO): 103 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 4 J K
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (21 BB, 3 players) 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB raises to 20 BB, fold, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (61 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 39.5 BB, SB calls 39.5 BB



PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 30)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 63)
BB: 111 BB (VPIP: 11.34, PFR: 6.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 102)
UTG: 103 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 15.48, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 85)
MP: 55 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) J 5 Q
SB bets 19.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 19.5 BB

Turn: (69 BB, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets 70.5 BB and is all-in, SB calls 70.5 BB and is all-in

River: (210 BB, 2 players) 6



In 4 minutes and less than 50 Hands.
25 % of my sessions have those moments.

You can't really play like this.
And drop multiple stacks in a row every 2-3 sessions.
On NL2 is manageable I still can climb back to few bb/100 in later hands.
But on higher limits you can't really recover from this and would even lose more (400 BB instead of 300 BB here).

It has to be disheartening to still not be able to beat the lowest of stakes.

I am still going to beat it NL2 here because I can manage to get a high win rate in the rest of the sessions.

It is just a huge handicap to have sessions like this so regularly.

And on other sites I don't.
I get sessions like this there around 1 out 10 or less.
On Pokerstars it's 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 4.

Luckily it appears to be very easy to notice. So easy that it would be trivial to set up a little experiment, suggest a bet and make tons of money from all the suckers here that don't believe a single word of the nonsense you're saying.

What do you mean ?

You make certain claims about events that only happen on PS. I believe there are plenty of people that are willing to wager that in a controlled experiment this does not happen the way you describe. Thus if you're correct that is easy money.

I am not claiming to have a prove that it is rigged.
I am just sharing my personal experience and impression.

And how do you want to verify it ?
By me just sending you a database ?
It is just a text file I can easily manipulate and rewrite it.
I wouldn't even have to go this far, I could just go pick and choose certain hands/sessions.
I am telling you right away if we do it like this I am going to hustle/scam you :P

And like I said many times before it is a random outcome.
It could easily just have been solely bad luck and just a unfortunate coincidence.
Just to have a unlikely amount of downswings doesn't mean it's rigged.
Which could also change over time.

I am just sharing my personal experience and impression.
I am just saying I can remember ever having that many frequent doomswitchs.
Also I have a upswing on party poker and run above Ev.
So it could just be argued you are lucky there and unlucky here.

Bunch of NL2 hands in OP, sounds exciting.

How people tilt and play micros is beyond me.

You can't.feel anything losing $10

Be a man OP and put it all on the line

Every dollar you have should be on the table. Then you feel it.

Maybe that is all the money he has

Why does pokerstars give the fish an opportunity to fold by dealing hands like K9s and stuff? Why not just rig it with easy decisions like AA vs a flop set every time. Theyre hurting their chances of keeping them in the game.

Then go to bed child.

Sod off OP. I'm so unlucky I haven't won a hand on Pokerstars for over 3 years.

Try that and see how you feel!

That were all where 4 out of 5 flops I had seen in this 4 minutes.

Kind of became a pokerstars thing somehow in the last couple of years for me.
To get a bunch of hands that are going to lose or in other words a very high ratio of losing hands in 1 out of 4 sessions.

I didn't had that before and on other sites it also almost never appears.
What makes it really awkward.

Also it leads to many unplayable sessions in some sense.
I mean how are you going to implement hand selection during that period,
if close to every hand loses, there is like nothing you can pick from.
What makes it a bad gaming experience.

I'm just a 10nl player but I see this stuff all the time on stars, but in the long run you end up ahead so don't worry. Also, I think you are overplaying single pairs too much.

Happens the same everywhere, your brain is stupid as a human brain because it creates patterns. Thats why we dont cry, but we look at reality, through math.


oh and fold more rivers, you also play very bad.

I don't have this on other sites, I mean it is not that extreme.
I feel like I don't have a real influence or control over the game at all to be honest.

That were the Top 5 hands I had on a stretch of 750 Hands.
Even if I fold those I would still lose.

That is just kind of the cherry on the top somehow.
It is not just losing those but not having anything that is going to generate a profit or just compensate the non showdown loses.
I mean just with sheer coincidence I should win some hands or get some good spots especially if I play that lose.

Sure I can play tighter than this and I used to before but then I even got worse results because I don't play anything.

Stop whining.

this^

I haven't won a hand on PS since April of 2011. Terrible run these last 7 years.

What abt switching to playing exclusively on sites where this "happens less often".

[ ] OP plays bad
[x] PS scams OP on a daily basis
[x] this doesnt happen on other sites

I am not talking about how I played the hands.
I am talking about the boards that had been dealt.

Even if I would played check fold after every turn for example,
it would not changed the cards that were dealt here.

I get 4 theoretical unusual hands in a row followed by 500 hands pure trash.