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This hero call can't possibly be good. This hero call can't possibly be good.

04-07-2023 , 05:20 AM
NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 26.55 BB
SB: 118.58 BB
BB: 115.26 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
UTG+1: 158.03 BB
MP: 103.46 BB
MP+1: 203.57 BB
CO: 121.38 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 18.5 BB, MP calls 14.5 BB, BB calls 14.5 BB

Flop: (56 BB, 3 players) Q 2 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 9.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 21.5 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (99 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB

River: (133 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 58.26 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 43 BB and is all-in

BB shows T A (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 31%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows A K (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 69%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 216 BB
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04-12-2023 , 02:43 AM
it obviously was good as you won the hand. Nice call!
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04-12-2023 , 12:01 PM
The call wasn't good, it was bad. Learn to fold your ak and you will improve as a player.
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04-23-2023 , 05:06 AM
NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.5 BB
Hero (CO): 280.54 BB
BB: 50.63 BB
BTN: 120.02 BB
SB: 79.75 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 7 K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8 5 J
BB checks, Hero bets 3.07 BB, BB raises to 15.64 BB, Hero calls 12.57 BB

Turn: (37.78 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 23.8 BB, Hero calls 23.8 BB

River: (85.39 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 59.55 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59.55 BB

BB shows T Q (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 42%, Flop 22%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows 7 K (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 58%, Flop 78%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 199.5 BB
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04-23-2023 , 11:02 AM
yes horrible calls sometimes win
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04-23-2023 , 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by orb_dam_u
The call wasn't good, it was bad. Learn to fold your ak and you will improve as a player.
I suspect op doesn't care about improving as a player
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04-25-2023 , 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=Catsarecool;58090474]NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

HOLD ON I THOUGH YOU HAD A K lol, I need glasses, anyway then this was a TERRIBLE CALL by you, I guess I assumed no one would do this without AK at the very least LOL. Well anyway for anyone interested, I do show bellow how this call may be break even, or sometimes better against a total maniac who bets air, IF you have A K, certainly not K 7 of spades though, WTF lol, glad I double check, my mind is funny, I just figured this has to be AK ha ha.

The bellow analysis is based on the assumption that Hero had A K. Was interesting to look at as I learned a few things about AK from this happy accident.


You should have made a bigger raise pre flop since you are out of position and wanting to price out the BB and also reduce the SPR making it easier to play OOP.

Against this opponent who bluffs, I think your call is OK if you want to flip, because with the pot odds and equity you have against his value hands and bluffs, some that beat you such as over played low pairs, or some betting for value thinking you do not have trips.

With the pot odds you are about 33 percent equity which is break even here because he will have trips about 33 percent, Ace high 33 percent and some pair 20 percent. Based on his betting pattern I think the range I put in flop zilla is pretty accurate, if it is much wider than this then a call becomes a good play, like if he is a crazy drunk fish type betting 80 percent of hands. Sometimes we see these players, especially in live games.

He very well may have put you on AK and is raising his pocket pair, though he just calls the turn etc which seems to indicate no trips. In any case the guy is a fish so you should be able to find a better spot than flipping with your stack.

I figured out your equity with the assumption that you are basically committing your stack on this flop when calling the raise and can look at it virtually as an all in on flop. I put in what I think his value and bluffing range may look like from the BB, if anyone thinks any other hands should be added then please let me know. I also weighted some of the pocket pairs to about 40 percent.

Not raising larger when out of position is the main thing that I believe you did wrong here. I think the play is OK against this opponent if you want to flip, but be aware that you are crushed by part of his bluffing range i.e. low pairs, that have you crushed at about 4 to 1.

The call was OK, though I do not like it because why flip with a fish where you can get his money with much better odds.

Last edited by PokerDefender; 04-25-2023 at 01:05 PM.
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04-25-2023 , 07:07 PM
I don't want to talk strategy, but he split his range on flop.
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04-25-2023 , 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude45
yes horrible calls sometimes win
No they never win, not in the long run. This game is about long term results only. This only matters if you are playing with your rent money cause you want to buy food too lol.

For a pro it only matters if they play is plus EV over time, though sometimes a suck out can work great if you win and learn from it too.
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04-25-2023 , 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsarecool
I don't want to talk strategy, but he split his range on flop.
As I said, this range is based on what he would play for value and bluff with against heros range. This is NOT his preflop range, which is no doubt MUCH larger. 65 vpip would not be a surprise.
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04-25-2023 , 11:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerDefender
As I said, this range is based on what he would play for value and bluff with against heros range. This is NOT his preflop range, which is no doubt MUCH larger. 65 vpip would not be a surprise.
Like I said, I don't want to talk about strategy. I had reads that I don't want to share.
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04-26-2023 , 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsarecool
Like I said, I don't want to talk about strategy. I had reads that I don't want to share.
I understand, having a read on someone is a world in itself.
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04-26-2023 , 05:41 PM
This isn't even a bad call this is in the realm of standard especially if your against someone who is capable of spewing.

Against a nit you can obviously let this one go.
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05-01-2023 , 07:25 AM
it's player dependent
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05-10-2023 , 08:27 PM
good call
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06-04-2023 , 06:33 AM
All luck.
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06-07-2023 , 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerDefender
No they never win, not in the long run. This game is about long term results only. This only matters if you are playing with your rent money cause you want to buy food too lol.

For a pro it only matters if they play is plus EV over time, though sometimes a suck out can work great if you win and learn from it too.
which is why i said sometimes
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06-07-2023 , 12:26 PM
TLDR; fold river, idiot!
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