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02-17-2019 , 10:34 PM
I certainly can’t think of another reason why hands that “are already invested” might win a disproportionate amount.
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02-17-2019 , 11:24 PM
must be a troll
gl with the thread


Michael out.
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02-17-2019 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Well there you have it, conclusive stuff. There's no other possible explanation for BB winning more hands.

There is an explanation, the BB plays more often than all other seats. But with weaker cards at a position disadvantage post flop. Theoretically you are supposed to lose money out of the BB and muck your cards more often than any other seat as well. It's an unprofitable seat that you're forced to play from every 9th hand.

If it's so unprofitable, with such overall weak cards, why is it winning so much at showdown? Does the play rate explain it? If it does, maybe we should play every hand from every position, stay in all the way to river, and win twice as often as everybody else. Think that'll work? That's what the chart seems to indicate.

And why would UTG of all seats, the one that theoretically should be folding the most often, be beating middle position? Sure he's playing only the biggest starting hands, but they're rare. And he doesn't get more of them than anybody else. Theoretically.

The perfect companion to this chart would be losing hands at showdown by position. If the BB isn't the leader in that chart, then there's something undeniably wrong. Maybe I'll start keeping that one too.
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02-17-2019 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
I certainly can’t think of another reason why hands that “are already invested” might win a disproportionate amount.
I can't either. When you're forced to call bets with poor hands because you already have money in, you're going to lose. I guess we agree on that much don't we.
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02-18-2019 , 05:53 AM
NO STRAT IN BBV. Move this thread elsewhere
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02-18-2019 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by knocker
If it's so unprofitable, with such overall weak cards, why is it winning so much at showdown? Does the play rate explain it? If it does, maybe we should play every hand from every position, stay in all the way to river, and win twice as often as everybody else. Think that'll work? That's what the chart says.
Yes, if you played every hand in every position until the river you would “win” more often. Since all you’re counting is wins, and not things like profit or hands played or calling preflop raises then folding in the flop, that would be a successful strategy.

Last edited by illdonk; 02-18-2019 at 11:46 AM.
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02-18-2019 , 04:41 PM
Thanks for solving poker op I look forward to crushing jokerstars now
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02-18-2019 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
Yes, if you played every hand in every position until the river you would “win” more often. Since all you’re counting is wins, and not things like profit or hands played or calling preflop raises then folding in the flop, that would be a successful strategy.
Showdown wins is an indicator of profit. It at least suggests that the BB feels good enough about his hand to take it to a showdown at least twice as often as everybody else, and win twice as often.

The real question is how much more often does the BB play compare to other seats. If it's only twice, playing with generally worse starting hands than everyone else, out of position post flop, mucking more than everyone else and losing at showdown more than everyone else, because he's generally playing worse cards, then you can't explain the results. If it's three times more often, then maybe. But I don't know if even that would cover it given all the disadvantages the BB has. I know I don't play from the BB three times more often.

And it still doesn't explain why UTG get's more showdown wins than middle position seats. That's at least as suspect if not more.
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02-18-2019 , 06:49 PM
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02-18-2019 , 06:51 PM
my cat ran over my keyboard

Kind Regards,
Charlie.
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02-27-2019 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thabighurt35
you should buy some of those nuero boost pills that make you smarter
Alpha GPC is legit.
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