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09-12-2007 , 01:23 AM
All Stars games should be 50bb min, 100bb max imo. Maybe offer 100min, 200max like FullTilt, but smaller amt of tables.

Still allowing 20bb/100bb tables with 50bb/100bb tables
would just pull the general player pool back to 20bb/100bb tables since such a high % of "regs" would only want to play the 50bb/100bb games, and as a result the 50bb/100bb games would dry up.

making everything 50bb/100bb would force everyone to play with everyone, just no shortstackers that ruin the games.
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09-12-2007 , 01:24 AM
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So are people advocating here that all games should be what Stars calls "deep", or that Stars should offer this style game at most limits while retaining the previous buyin options at some tables?

I just want to clarify what people are asking for.
The former would be awesome but I'll take what I can get
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09-12-2007 , 01:24 AM
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Also, party is going to do this in a while maby..
got any info on that?
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09-12-2007 , 01:28 AM
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As many NL players will testify, shortstacking is ruining games.
Please, continue.
Continue w/ what? Read my statement again plz: "As many NL players will testify, shortstacking is ruining games."
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09-12-2007 , 01:36 AM
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As many NL players will testify, shortstacking is ruining games.
Please, continue.
Continue w/ what? Read my statement again plz: "As many NL players will testify, shortstacking is ruining games."
I wonder what % of people on 2p2 who bitch about short stackers understand why short stackers take away from the game.
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09-12-2007 , 01:37 AM
Yeah I'm basically fine with 50min/100max. I just wanted people to be clear what they were referring to in case this thread gets read by people who have influence over the doomswitches and such things at stars.
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09-12-2007 , 02:02 AM
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Also, party is going to do this in a while maby..
got any info on that?
Considering you can currently leave a Party table with a lot of money and rejoin 5 seconds later with the min buyin again, I don't think they're hurrying to solve this problem.
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09-12-2007 , 02:29 AM
GUYS STARS SHOULD MAKE SURE IMSA PAYS 0 RAKE TO THEM BY INCREASING MIN(IMSA)BUYIN TO 50BB. YEAH GOOD IDEA ECONOMICS EXPLOTITATIVE ETHICAL STRATEGY YAY.

CHOO CHOO
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09-12-2007 , 02:30 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200.
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09-12-2007 , 02:31 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200.
yet
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09-12-2007 , 02:34 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200.
yet
SHI IM BANKROLL NIT I CAN BARELY MOVE PAST 5/10 W/O HEART ATTACK
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09-12-2007 , 02:36 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200 playmoney.
yet
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09-12-2007 , 02:37 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200 playmoney.
yet
FREEROLL YAY 100K/$1
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09-12-2007 , 02:37 AM
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I lol'd
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09-12-2007 , 02:38 AM
Clayton,

I don't play on your site, yet I'm sure I'd pozz you. Choo Choo.
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09-12-2007 , 02:39 AM
You sound like a bug bitching to me as I waffle-stomp it.
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09-12-2007 , 02:39 AM
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You sound like a bug bitching to me as I waffle-stomp it.
SYRUP OR CHOCOLATE SAUCE OR CREAM CHEESE?
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09-12-2007 , 02:39 AM
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You sound like a bug bitching to me as I waffle-stomp it.
Winrate betaments at 10/20 Choo Choo?
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09-12-2007 , 02:45 AM
So DN got a change to the tables that run the least on Stars, big deal.

What's not good for this spreading is that game will rarely run, and Stars will use that as a good reason not to change other tables.

You should change the thread title to, "Plz play the 100/200 deep table on Stars"
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09-12-2007 , 02:49 AM
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What's not good for this spreading is that game will rarely run, and Stars will use that as a good reason not to change other tables.
I am pretty sure if support gets a thousand or so e-mails supporting what Negreanu did, that would eventually get back to Negreanu and more stuff would get done.
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09-12-2007 , 03:05 AM
See I don't think so on this one. I've read replies on here from Stars support explaining why they have/haven't done certain things, (such as showing cards when all in on cash tables) and they came off as putting extensive time/research into doing whatever keeps the most fish playing.

They've known for a long time know how most regs hate shortstackers. They probably have received thousands of email already on this issue with all the threads that have been started on this issue.

So while you may see a few new "deep" tables or whatever, I think 20bb mins are here to stay for the most part, and I think that's because it's what is most profitable for these sites in the long run.

I'm not saying what you're doing is stupid, so please don't take it that way. You have to try if you ever want anything done but I just don't think this is a fight you can win.
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09-12-2007 , 03:21 AM
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I wanna see the look on imsa's face when he reads this.
IMSA DOESNT PLAY 100/200.
DN said they would trickle down the stakes over time.
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09-12-2007 , 03:23 AM
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You sound like a bug bitching to me as I waffle-stomp it.
u substomp
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09-12-2007 , 03:55 AM
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Also, party is going to do this in a while maby..
got any info on that?
Considering you can currently leave a Party table with a lot of money and rejoin 5 seconds later with the min buyin again, I don't think they're hurrying to solve this problem.
That's pretty much why they're plannin to do it.. there was some thread about it herre, or was it in ssnl/msnl cheese..
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09-12-2007 , 05:19 AM
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You understand that the caps on various games is meant to protect fish? When fish lose money too quickly, online poker collapses on itself.
what are you talking about lol?? they can just move UP .
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