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03-31-2022 , 08:41 AM
I am trying to get better at poker but I keep running into a problem. I am told that I lose because of I am not skilled enough. Then I study and practice and learn new things and go play online for real money and keep losing. My opponents always have a better starting hand and if they are behind then they suck out and so they make better hands than me. How do I study or practice so that I make better hands? Poker's a skill game right? These sites aren't rigged right? If GGPoker isn't rigged and I'm assuming its not since 2+2 took down and deleted my post about it so they wouldn't do that to be keeping it hidden right? 2+2 wouldn't be shady and scam the people right?

Just explain one thing to me before you remove my post and delete for some bullshit reason and right before you tell me to go get mental health treatment. Just explain to me how the math never is correct online. It is unbelievable, I'm so sick of hearing the same bullshit from non riggies who I think have to be affiliates or have some kind of invested interest in the sites, or they don't play online, or they work for the sites. If those idiots can explain why the math doesn't add up online? If someone says a site is rigged then everyone says "where is the evidence". Then when you show the evidence you just hear "not enough of a sample size", "I don't want to hear your bad beat stories", and "don't be results oriented?" **** ALL OF THAT!!

Every hand that I play against someone on GG they make monsters while I miss almost all the flops. I get 3-bet everytime I raise with a marginal hand and they fold everytime I have a good hand. Almost like they can see my cards. For example, if I raise with KQ then I know I'm getting 3-bet. Then when I raise with AA, all of a sudden THEN EVERYONE JUST SMOOTH CALLS. SHOCKING ISN'T IT??? I am losing money on GG with AA, KK, and AK. WTF????? Someone tell me how that isn't rigged. Oh wait I know, I need more of a sample size right? It's not that they can see my cards and the RNG is stacked against you so that their house bots can cheat you and rob you blind by flopping sets like it's nothing. The frequency at which my opponents make hands is ASTRONOMICAL!!! If you don't believe me then here, just go here https://mega.nz/file/yhR23KzC#xoQr0u...66RYAqfY8nuWyA and look at the evidence for yourself. Tell me how that ****ing adds up to a completely random RNG! Pay particular attention to the last session where I became so frustrated that I just decided to play every hand and then it became real real obvious how its rigged. Every hand these bots hold over you and are unbeatable. Then when you have a VPIP of 95 and you get a good hand and they all of a sudden fold, its very obvious what is going on. It's a complete joke and if anyone doesn't see that GG is rigged and a complete scam after looking at that HH then I have no help for ya.

If Doug Polk has any balls whatsoever and isn't a complete scumbag like I think he is then I challenge him to do something about this ****. There is a way that these sites could do away with the rig talk once and for all and end the debate. All they need to do is make their RNG open source and release the code. Then check and in their source code take out the player names in the shuffling and distributing of the cards. That way the RNG doesn't know who is sitting where because there is no need for it. Unless you were cheating and wanted to boost one player over another. I have heard a lot about Phil Galfond and that he is launching a poker site that is going to be regulated in the U.S. If he is trustworthy and not a scumbag like everyone else then I challenge to do this as well.

Super users would be only the thing that this change wouldn't fix. I dont know how you fix that but this would at least be a huge step in the right direction. I doubt Doug Polk will do anything because he doesn't want to bring attention to the fact that he made his money because he streamed and had a huge following and it would be in the site's best interest for him to do well, just like a lot of streamers out there seem to run better than most. This is a simple fix that would be NO hassle or trouble for the sites at all and it would bring a lot of people to their site. I guarantee you THAT NO SITE WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY LIKE CHEATING PEOPLE AND GIVING PLAYERS AN ADVANTAGE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY.

Oh and I tried to withdraw the remaining scraps in my account before I get cheated out of anymore of it to these house bots and relatives of GGpoker but shockingly I can't!!!!!!! I'm shocked that a site that is rigged and cheats people also is now not going to let me withdrawal my funds. Weird huh? Almost like they are just a bunch of criminals and their site is a joke and is just a place to steal money and is not a legitmate business or poker site at all. **** GG and I can't wait to see how the mods will remove this post as fast as they can because they hate when someone posts facts and has evidence to back up their claim!!!!
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04-01-2022 , 01:43 AM
You should seriously consider stop playing poker and look for help bro, your life must be miserable The way you complain and cry and dont face things and just keep blamming everything and everyone other than yourself for your own issues. Gl

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04-01-2022 , 03:02 AM
You've been studying the wrong things. Better start meditating and praying instead.
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04-01-2022 , 04:06 AM
On GGpoker I am losing money with AA, KK, and AK. Equilab says that AA vs the hands I was up against is 80% so it seems hard to lose money with that hand. Whats also weird is that usually I get 3 and 4 bet a lot but when I get AA then all of a sudden people start flatting my raise. Almost like they can see my cards. I only faced a 3 bet with AA twice and one of those was the hand I lost so they can probably see the card runouts before they happen. Or the RNG is so heavily tipped that it just appears like that. First hand I played on GG where I put the money in was AK vs QQ and the money went in on a A high flop rainbow and of course he hit his queen. Then when you factor in the sets that I flopped total 12. Of these 12 sets, I made 14 bets after on the flop/turn/river. Only had 2 calls and the rest they all folded. Almost like they knew. Just like when I bluff and they turn over a monster every ****ing time. Then when I fold they show the bluff. I full believe that these players can change their cards after they are dealt and it changes based on the player's actions. I use a randomizer and the number of times that I have folded and "would have won" are far too great to be coincedence vs the times I bluff and get called by the nuts or AA. If I had a dollar for everytime I shoved all in and ran into AA, I would have close to 100 dollars. The % has to be 50% at least. It's so obvious what is going on.

Yeah it's ok I completely understand how unbelievable it is and you might be with the site because it's like clockwork the way that people respond on here. It's almost like there are people whos job it is it to create these accounts and dismiss any rigged claims. You know that when you rig a site that you are going to have people coming here saying what happened to them. I am disappointed in 2+2 and I never thought of them as a scam but it's just like everything in poker, a scam. Fake accounts, tricking people, hiding information, and all to keep the dirty little secret under wraps so that the people that come here looking for answers can continue to get scammed. That's low, real low. I'm not the smartest guy and that's my problem. It always takes me longer to figure out what others already know. I sometimes think that what I have found is a big deal and that when I bring this up then this might bring change and someone might take it seriously. That never happens though and I just hear how stupid I am, how I need to study more, and other nonsense. It's hilarious to me that anyone can claim that ignition isn't rigged. It's unbelievable and today I played just a few hands to use up the last couple of bucks i had on there and it's so obvious that nobody can deny it if they aren't ******ed. On


I had QQ 75% favorite vs A4 and lost when he flopped a straight. Odds of flopping a straight are less than 1%

I then get AK and get the money all in on a board of K-9-5 rainbow vs K-3, I'm 90% favorite here and of course we know what happened on the river, it's always the river. The turn always gives you more outs or entices you to continue and the river is where they insert the rod. It never fails.

Then I get AK again with my last $1.75 and shove it all in and get called by two players. Flop comes K-J-8 of diamonds and I know I'm drawing dead at this point and the one bets the other folds and he turns over K-Q with no diamond. We all know what the river brought don't we? You guessed it a Q. Here I am 90% on the turn. So back to back hands I am 90% favorite to win and lose em both. Last time I checked 90 times out of 100 means that I should win almost everytime. To lose two in a row like that is almost impossible and yet here we are. I just proved that online poker is rigged as they dirt bag criminals needed my last $1.00 so bad that they set up these hands to squeeze out my last nickel.

The odds of being a 90% favorite and losing two in a row is 1%.

omnicalculator.com
Chances for success - 90

Chances against success - 10

Probability of winning - 90%

2 times in a row - 81%

Probability of losing - 10%

2 times in a row - 1%

Then lets take into account the times I was 90% favorite on GG and lost. It's a joke that anyone think that these sites are random. If anyone is reading this and thinking about playing, please don't. These sites are rigged, they use fake accounts to fool you and your money will be gone forever. You will see comments after this about my study habits and same bullshit they always say. I have put in the work and studied a lot and that's why I know that it is rigged. The math never adds up online.

Doug Polk I think you are a scum sellout who scams the people that follow him. Your face has been on my tv or computer screen more than anyone else's in the last year or so. I even bought your Heads Up Mastery Course. I would have thought you would have mentioned that none of the stuff you discussed meant anything since the sites are all rigged and have super users. I would think that's an important thing to mention. Your whole story makes no sense dude. You go from nothing to making millions of dollars from online poker and then just quit? Who makes millions of dollars from somethign and quits? It's weird, and I have a tough time believing that I have figured this out but the great Doug Polk has not. Of course if you come out and say this then your whole legacy crumbles and bye bye poker career. Bye bye being one of the best heads up players of all time. Which is why you started a live poker room instead of an online one. I find it strange that you didn't create your own poker site instead of opening a live one. I don't see you opening a poker site online and cheating people though and that's why I don't think you created an online site. An online site that you would put out would be fair and not rigged which would make all the current sites absolute and nobody would play them because it would be obvious what sites are rigged when there is actually a site that isn't. You can tell when you are playing in a real legit game and when something isn't right. I just wanted others to see what a cowardly, fake, and dishonest scammer you are by selling people instructional information so that they can play on a rigged site and lose. I fell for it and so you got me Douglas. It's just weird that there are a lot of similarities amongst the players that are "the best in the world at online poker". Why is it that there seems to be the added element of being a little more marketable than others. It's just a coincedence that online poker pros that came out of nowhere just happen to be good looking and have a huge following on stream. Weird huh? Almost like it is by design huh? Howard Lederer did call the RNG at Full Tilt, The Random Money Generator. Then when you look at how easy it would be when the player names are in the source code for the distrubuting of cards. Remember when you said that the people who think the sites are rigged are "the worst kind of people and how it is absurdly stupid"? Remember that gem Doug? I know you are a mod here and will see this so let's see if you have any charachter or if you are what I think you are. I'm calling you out and let's see what you'll do. I want to say how do you sleep at night but you have done pretty well for yourself so you probably have no problems sleeping. I can't imagine scamming people out of money and feeling good about myself. I can't imagine looking in the mirror to shave or brush my teeth and liking the person that stares back at me. That isn't worth any dollar amount to me. Have you ever volunteered for a good cause Doug? Do you know that when you help out your fellow humans that it is an incredible feeling. This is in our nature and our DNA to help others and to help build society instead of being on the jackals trying to tear it down because it helps them. Those people can't and aren't truly happy. I hope you think of that everytime you look in the mirror to put that shitty god awful tanning cream your wife sells. It's blotchy and you need to use lotion when you put it on so that it blends more evenly. If I am wrong then I will be the first to apologize to you and I will take back what I said if you actually do something and give some kind of reasonable explanation about the current state of online poker and how the mathematically impossible happen on a routine basis. Why a site won't take out the player's identities in the RNG source code, which would end the debate once and for all. You'd still have the threat of super users but it would go a long way which is why it won't happen. Only someone like you could make that happen because you have a voice and have a following. If you stood up and said something then I think they would at listen or respond. I don't think that they would change it because then it would be obvious what they have been doing. It's worth a try though from my perspective. I'd much rather be in my position which is unemployed because of COVID, no real prospects in site but knowing that I didn't cheat anyone and I will look at myself in the mirror and have no problem with the person staring back at me. I wish I had seen this sooner but I'm not the brightest and I'm always the last to know. I'm sure this is no different. I'd love to be wrong but just need evidence of that. The only evidence I have heard is "it's not". I have seen a lot of evidence to the contrary. It was strange for me listening to you go through your top poker players of all time given the fact of what I have discovered and what I experienced. I played against some of those players and the only difference I could see was how the good ones always run like god online. Can't speak for live and these players have no real results live. Where these sites fail is they get greedy and they always put the nail in the coffin on the river. The turn always brings hope then the river is where the nail is driven. I can't tell you how many 2 outers I have lost to on the river but I can say that it hasn't been 100 times and I know that I've lost more than 10. I'm gonna see if it I can figure it out and create a filter for that. Anyway, I'm rambling but needed to get this off my chest. I hope you do the right thing, I don't think that if you did the right thing that you would lose everything. I think you would gain more respect from the community rather than discredit what you have accomplished up to this point. Which is a great achievement and one I would feel bad about discrediting if I was wrong and these sites were random. If you truly believe that they are then you should want to prove that as much as anyone. Taking the player names out of the RNG source code would do that. It's a very simple fix that would end all debates about the rng because the RNG wouldn't know who is sitting where and so there couldn't be any rigging going on.

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04-01-2022 , 04:15 AM
So many words.
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04-01-2022 , 04:42 AM
you are not good poker that's why you lose.

I actually know several people like you. They'd be better off if they were a lot worse at poker so they'd quit playing. But they put in some study, think they know a lot more than they actually do and think they just run bad and as a result keep trying and making themselves miserable. They're not terrible but aren't good either and have false hope. False hope is worse than no hope.

If you were enjoying yourself and paying for the entertainment it would be one thing, but you're losing and making yourself miserable. Just quit playing.

Just your "analysis" shows massive flaws in your thinking. "i was 75/25 and he flopped a straight which only happens 1 percent of the time". So what? You lose 25 percent of the time there it's that simple, but you're acting like you were 99 percent to win."If instead the board game all bricks and the river was an ace you'd be crying about the "three outer" he hit. "I was 90 percent on the flop" on a hand your last quarters went in 3 ways PREFLOP. You weren't 90 percent 3 ways for a cup of coffee when the money went in, but you cherry pick the point in the hand where you were 90 percent and convince yourself you're running worse than you are. Chances are your equity was 30-50 percent when the money went in preflop that hand. You happened to flop super good, the third player happened to flop terribly and not have a diamond and had to fold. Big deal.

You do this over and over again to convince yourself nobody runs worse than you. It's what losing, slowly bleeding entitled players do. And anyone good who plays with them knows the real reason they lose.

Nobody is reading that entire giant wall of text but quit poker. Seriously.

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04-01-2022 , 05:40 AM
This thread gave me gangarine
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04-01-2022 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gab1
You should seriously consider stop playing poker and look for help bro, your life must be miserable The way you complain and cry and dont face things and just keep blamming everything and everyone other than yourself for your own issues. Gl

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This.

Why are you playing if you think it's rigged?
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04-01-2022 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by abcde123
I am trying to get better at poker but I keep running into a problem. I am told that I lose because of I am not skilled enough. Then I study and practice and learn new things and go play online for real money and keep losing. My opponents always have a better starting hand and if they are behind then they suck out and so they make better hands than me. How do I study or practice so that I make better hands? Poker's a skill game right? These sites aren't rigged right? If GGPoker isn't rigged and I'm assuming its not since 2+2 took down and deleted my post about it so they wouldn't do that to be keeping it hidden right? 2+2 wouldn't be shady and scam the people right?

Just explain one thing to me before you remove my post and delete for some bullshit reason and right before you tell me to go get mental health treatment. Just explain to me how the math never is correct online. It is unbelievable, I'm so sick of hearing the same bullshit from non riggies who I think have to be affiliates or have some kind of invested interest in the sites, or they don't play online, or they work for the sites. If those idiots can explain why the math doesn't add up online? If someone says a site is rigged then everyone says "where is the evidence". Then when you show the evidence you just hear "not enough of a sample size", "I don't want to hear your bad beat stories", and "don't be results oriented?" **** ALL OF THAT!!

Every hand that I play against someone on GG they make monsters while I miss almost all the flops. I get 3-bet everytime I raise with a marginal hand and they fold everytime I have a good hand. Almost like they can see my cards. For example, if I raise with KQ then I know I'm getting 3-bet. Then when I raise with AA, all of a sudden THEN EVERYONE JUST SMOOTH CALLS. SHOCKING ISN'T IT??? I am losing money on GG with AA, KK, and AK. WTF????? Someone tell me how that isn't rigged. Oh wait I know, I need more of a sample size right? It's not that they can see my cards and the RNG is stacked against you so that their house bots can cheat you and rob you blind by flopping sets like it's nothing. The frequency at which my opponents make hands is ASTRONOMICAL!!! If you don't believe me then here, just go here https://mega.nz/file/yhR23KzC#xoQr0u...66RYAqfY8nuWyA and look at the evidence for yourself. Tell me how that ****ing adds up to a completely random RNG! Pay particular attention to the last session where I became so frustrated that I just decided to play every hand and then it became real real obvious how its rigged. Every hand these bots hold over you and are unbeatable. Then when you have a VPIP of 95 and you get a good hand and they all of a sudden fold, its very obvious what is going on. It's a complete joke and if anyone doesn't see that GG is rigged and a complete scam after looking at that HH then I have no help for ya.

If Doug Polk has any balls whatsoever and isn't a complete scumbag like I think he is then I challenge him to do something about this ****. There is a way that these sites could do away with the rig talk once and for all and end the debate. All they need to do is make their RNG open source and release the code. Then check and in their source code take out the player names in the shuffling and distributing of the cards. That way the RNG doesn't know who is sitting where because there is no need for it. Unless you were cheating and wanted to boost one player over another. I have heard a lot about Phil Galfond and that he is launching a poker site that is going to be regulated in the U.S. If he is trustworthy and not a scumbag like everyone else then I challenge to do this as well.

Super users would be only the thing that this change wouldn't fix. I dont know how you fix that but this would at least be a huge step in the right direction. I doubt Doug Polk will do anything because he doesn't want to bring attention to the fact that he made his money because he streamed and had a huge following and it would be in the site's best interest for him to do well, just like a lot of streamers out there seem to run better than most. This is a simple fix that would be NO hassle or trouble for the sites at all and it would bring a lot of people to their site. I guarantee you THAT NO SITE WILL DO IT BECAUSE THEY LIKE CHEATING PEOPLE AND GIVING PLAYERS AN ADVANTAGE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY.

Oh and I tried to withdraw the remaining scraps in my account before I get cheated out of anymore of it to these house bots and relatives of GGpoker but shockingly I can't!!!!!!! I'm shocked that a site that is rigged and cheats people also is now not going to let me withdrawal my funds. Weird huh? Almost like they are just a bunch of criminals and their site is a joke and is just a place to steal money and is not a legitmate business or poker site at all. **** GG and I can't wait to see how the mods will remove this post as fast as they can because they hate when someone posts facts and has evidence to back up their claim!!!!


3 dollar tournaments are pretty tough to beat. You might just be better off quitting or moving to Pennsylvania and playing on pokerstars instead.



Is this post an April Fools joke?
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04-01-2022 , 06:49 PM
I ain't readin all that. I'm happy for u. or sorry that happened.
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04-02-2022 , 09:33 PM
Just uninstall and play chess or smt imo. Or maybe don’t. You might think everybody is using a computer engine to beat you ��
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04-03-2022 , 02:52 AM
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I ain't readin all that. I'm happy for u. or sorry that happened.
Imagine being so lazy that reading becomes too much of a chore ....
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04-03-2022 , 02:53 AM
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Just uninstall and play chess or smt imo. Or maybe don’t. You might think everybody is using a computer engine to beat you ��
Is it really too diffficult to just type a couple of letters instead of abbreviate everything. I have no idea what you are saying. SMT?

What do you mean I think a computer engine is trying to beat me? I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion based on my post. Are you referring to a bot that I think are owned and run by the sites? The reason why these bots are tough is because they manipulate the RNG and put their bots into the algorithm that gives the edge. That has more to do with a person and programming and not a computer engine. I think solvers are nonsense. A solver seems more what you are asking me about in terms of a computer engine. I would love it if someone would play me and use a solver. I encourage it actually.
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04-03-2022 , 03:23 AM
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This.

Why are you playing if you think it's rigged?
I initially started playing with the thought that these sites were not rigged. After millions of hands played, I noticed patterns and learned from my experiences. Thus changing how I feel about it. I will say that I often believe this to be true but think that I could be wrong. I would change my mind if I were given a reasonable explanation as to why my theory is false or even just a reasonable piece of evidence. I don't see any evidence that these sites are random.

Evidence that makes me think they are rigged:
1. They don't release the source code for the RNG.
2. These sites have a checkered past to say the least.
3. These sites say they manipulate the games to protect the fish. Like not giving the HH or like having anonomous tables like Ignition. What Ignition did was learn from UB and understood that Potripper got a lot of attention and this allows them to use as many bots as they want and not draw attention. When I play on Ignition, I download the HH and I always see players that always run amazing and quit after 100 hands and are never seen again.
4. GGpoker closes a players account and takes his money because he was game selecting or as they call it "bum hunting". That's insane and anyone that would have the mindset of closing a player's account because they are finding the best games to play in is crazy and also gives a clearer picture of what else they are doing if they find this so terrible and a reason to steal money. To me this is a clear sign of a site that takes all the money from the players and when a player is winning, it makes it harder for them to get that money. The only reason a site has a reason to close an account and steal the money is if that player cheated. Then the money should go back into the player pool and not their wallets.
5. These sites have an overlay then magically they always seem to have been the victim of a DDOS attack. Which is a joke.
6. Nobody makes money playing online poker. In fact the algorithm they have set up makes this even harder. If you play on Ignition or ACR and start playing super tight and fold a lot. Then what happens is the players start limping in your big blind. They are doing anything they can to get you to put money into the pot.
7. When I play online, what gets more than anything else is the obvious super using that is going on. If I make a hand they fold, and if I bluff they call or raise. It almost never fails, it's not 100% because there are real players that are playing as well. I think every table probably has one or maybe two bots. I think that when you play against these players is where the cheating takes place. I know that on ACR they can change the cards after they are dealt and I believe GG poker does the same thing as well. I use a randomizer and the number of times that I have folded and then see them turn over rags and the number of times that I have shoved and run into the nuts is impossible for that to be random or a coincedence. Impossible.
8. A player only gets a pocket pair 10% of the time. The other 90% you will be dealt two unpaired cards and will only make a pair 30% of the time and only 10% of the time will that pair be top pair. Yet when you play online, top pair, sets, flushes, straights, two pair are made by these players like its nothing. What always gets me is the same player will always be betting aggressively and I'll think to myself, "he can't have it everytime" because mathematically he can't. I learned that they can have it all the time because it is rigged. When I did play, I mark these players and avoid placing a chip in the pot against them.
9. The odds and percentages of all the different hand combinations is free and widely available to everyone. This is the biggest reason why I think the sites are rigged because the math doesn't work out online. 90% online doesn't mean ****. Blockers don't mean **** online either.

I could go on and on and on here. I think the people who don't think that it is rigged don't play very much or play more tournaments. I play cash games and don't really play tournaments. Tournaments are a completely different animal because once you have the buy in and the rake the hands are all played with monopoly money. Cash games this is not the case. I am referring 100% to cash games. I haven't played enough tournaments to have an opinion on their being random. I would think the only concern would be house bots that they enter to the tournaments because more places that go to their bots then the less they have to pay out. I know that I have had some decent success playing tournaments. I've won a $55 rebuy on WSOP and have probably played around 50 tournaments or so. One thing I have noticed in these tournaments is that there are players who run like god and are unbeatable. I always assumed these are house bots and I never play pots against them. What sucks is when they have position and so I'm never surprised if I am forced to shove and have a decent hand that they are the ones that always call with a better hand.
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04-03-2022 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
you are not good poker that's why you lose.

I actually know several people like you. They'd be better off if they were a lot worse at poker so they'd quit playing. But they put in some study, think they know a lot more than they actually do and think they just run bad and as a result keep trying and making themselves miserable. They're not terrible but aren't good either and have false hope. False hope is worse than no hope.

If you were enjoying yourself and paying for the entertainment it would be one thing, but you're losing and making yourself miserable. Just quit playing.

Just your "analysis" shows massive flaws in your thinking. "i was 75/25 and he flopped a straight which only happens 1 percent of the time". So what? You lose 25 percent of the time there it's that simple, but you're acting like you were 99 percent to win."If instead the board game all bricks and the river was an ace you'd be crying about the "three outer" he hit. "I was 90 percent on the flop" on a hand your last quarters went in 3 ways PREFLOP. You weren't 90 percent 3 ways for a cup of coffee when the money went in, but you cherry pick the point in the hand where you were 90 percent and convince yourself you're running worse than you are. Chances are your equity was 30-50 percent when the money went in preflop that hand. You happened to flop super good, the third player happened to flop terribly and not have a diamond and had to fold. Big deal.

You do this over and over again to convince yourself nobody runs worse than you. It's what losing, slowly bleeding entitled players do. And anyone good who plays with them knows the real reason they lose.

Nobody is reading that entire giant wall of text but quit poker. Seriously.
Do me a favor and this time actually read my post before commenting. You did what most people do and you skimmed it and assumed that I was giving bad beat stories or whatever. I don't think because I run bad is a reason why the sites are rigged. In fact, I don't feel that I run bad because that would mean that I consistently get the money in with the best hand but lose on suckouts. This is not what happens and why I feel super users are not conspiracy theory but reality. I have tested them and they never disappoint. Then when you start looking at the game with the thought they can see your cards and then you notice that they are making their decision based on your cards and not theirs. This is also why I don't buy solvers being the reason why the games are so difficult because often times these players are not making GTO players but are making a non gto play based on what you are holding.
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04-03-2022 , 04:18 AM
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I initially started playing with the thought that these sites were not rigged. After millions of hands played, I noticed patterns and learned from my experiences. Thus changing how I feel about it. I will say that I often believe this to be true but think that I could be wrong. I would change my mind if I were given a reasonable explanation as to why my theory is false or even just a reasonable piece of evidence. I don't see any evidence that these sites are random.

Evidence that makes me think they are rigged:
1. They don't release the source code for the RNG.
2. These sites have a checkered past to say the least.
3. These sites say they manipulate the games to protect the fish. Like not giving the HH or like having anonomous tables like Ignition. What Ignition did was learn from UB and understood that Potripper got a lot of attention and this allows them to use as many bots as they want and not draw attention. When I play on Ignition, I download the HH and I always see players that always run amazing and quit after 100 hands and are never seen again.
4. GGpoker closes a players account and takes his money because he was game selecting or as they call it "bum hunting". That's insane and anyone that would have the mindset of closing a player's account because they are finding the best games to play in is crazy and also gives a clearer picture of what else they are doing if they find this so terrible and a reason to steal money. To me this is a clear sign of a site that takes all the money from the players and when a player is winning, it makes it harder for them to get that money. The only reason a site has a reason to close an account and steal the money is if that player cheated. Then the money should go back into the player pool and not their wallets.
5. These sites have an overlay then magically they always seem to have been the victim of a DDOS attack. Which is a joke.
6. Nobody makes money playing online poker. In fact the algorithm they have set up makes this even harder. If you play on Ignition or ACR and start playing super tight and fold a lot. Then what happens is the players start limping in your big blind. They are doing anything they can to get you to put money into the pot.
7. When I play online, what gets more than anything else is the obvious super using that is going on. If I make a hand they fold, and if I bluff they call or raise. It almost never fails, it's not 100% because there are real players that are playing as well. I think every table probably has one or maybe two bots. I think that when you play against these players is where the cheating takes place. I know that on ACR they can change the cards after they are dealt and I believe GG poker does the same thing as well. I use a randomizer and the number of times that I have folded and then see them turn over rags and the number of times that I have shoved and run into the nuts is impossible for that to be random or a coincedence. Impossible.
8. A player only gets a pocket pair 10% of the time. The other 90% you will be dealt two unpaired cards and will only make a pair 30% of the time and only 10% of the time will that pair be top pair. Yet when you play online, top pair, sets, flushes, straights, two pair are made by these players like its nothing. What always gets me is the same player will always be betting aggressively and I'll think to myself, "he can't have it everytime" because mathematically he can't. I learned that they can have it all the time because it is rigged. When I did play, I mark these players and avoid placing a chip in the pot against them.
9. The odds and percentages of all the different hand combinations is free and widely available to everyone. This is the biggest reason why I think the sites are rigged because the math doesn't work out online. 90% online doesn't mean ****. Blockers don't mean **** online either.

I could go on and on and on here. I think the people who don't think that it is rigged don't play very much or play more tournaments. I play cash games and don't really play tournaments. Tournaments are a completely different animal because once you have the buy in and the rake the hands are all played with monopoly money. Cash games this is not the case. I am referring 100% to cash games. I haven't played enough tournaments to have an opinion on their being random. I would think the only concern would be house bots that they enter to the tournaments because more places that go to their bots then the less they have to pay out. I know that I have had some decent success playing tournaments. I've won a $55 rebuy on WSOP and have probably played around 50 tournaments or so. One thing I have noticed in these tournaments is that there are players who run like god and are unbeatable. I always assumed these are house bots and I never play pots against them. What sucks is when they have position and so I'm never surprised if I am forced to shove and have a decent hand that they are the ones that always call with a better hand.
Seems like you do think it's rigged.
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04-03-2022 , 04:42 AM
Sounds like something a GG poker shill would say.

How much is Doug Polk paying you?
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04-03-2022 , 05:25 AM
You know I'm only getting paid by Pokerstars.
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04-03-2022 , 05:25 AM
Fun fact - I have no idea what GGPoker is.
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04-05-2022 , 06:05 AM
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Whats also weird is that usually I get 3 and 4 bet a lot but when I get AA then all of a sudden people start flatting my raise. Almost like they can see my cards.

Or because you double block the 3 betting range...
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04-05-2022 , 07:31 AM
a glimpse of how the recs think in this thread, very enlightening, especially the part about tagging people to avoid putting any money in the pot versus them
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04-05-2022 , 07:51 AM
Lmao I looked at some of the hands and his proof includes hands he folds pre where he would've hit a straight and others where he has 2 overs vs a pair, calls 2 streets post-flop without hitting and folds river. That is proof it's rigged? LOL
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04-05-2022 , 01:32 PM
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a glimpse of how the recs think in this thread, very enlightening, especially the part about tagging people to avoid putting any money in the pot versus them
guy at my table the other day openly proclaimed to the rest of the table that bluffing is disrespectful and he would NEVER do such a thing because he has honor
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04-11-2022 , 04:32 AM
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Or because you double block the 3 betting range...
This is not true and you clearly haven't through this through. AA block (AK, AQ, AJs) and maybe some weaker A-x suited. That's it. They don't block KK, QQ, JJ, 10, or 99. They also don't block KQs, KJs, KTs, QJs or suited connectors. In fact, I stopped raising with A-x suited when it folded to me because of how often I would get 3-bet. That also blocks their range and yet it happened the most with those hands and pocket pairs. Pocket pairs are by far the worst. If you don't recognize the fact that the people play differently based on what you are holding then you aren't paying attention. Don't multitable and you might be able to see. Most multi table and would never notice that type of thing. I play one table at a time most of the time but I'm done with all poker online. I don't care what anyone says, when I go through my database and have a reasonable amount of hands where I faced a preflop 3-bet with my opening range but then when I filter AA, and KK and those 3-bets disappear, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what is going on.

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a glimpse of how the recs think in this thread, very enlightening, especially the part about tagging people to avoid putting any money in the pot versus them
You've obviously haven't played on ACR. There are accounts on ACR that I have never beat in a single hand. Not once, not ever, never. That's not random and is a clear sign of their house bots.

You can dismiss this but it shouldn't be true if the games were random and not rigged. Since they are rigged, then you have to consider this when playing on ACR. I stumbled upon a little secret that I don't feel was a coincedence. I played a lot of hands on ACR, around 700,000 and then they closed my account because they wanted KYC documents. I wasn't sending these criminals my personal documents so I quit playing on there for a while. One day, I discovered a way that allows me to show my location from Russia that wasn't a VPN. I then created a new account on ACR and played like that for over a week and it was the only profitable week I had on ACR. It was also the only time that I was able to cooler one of these accounts that normally would outflop every single time. It happened in twice in a row and I couldn't believe it. I quickly got booted from the game and they must have updated it because then it went back to normal after I logged back in. These are things that I experienced that I can't forget but also shape my opinion and how I know these sites are rigged.

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Lmao I looked at some of the hands and his proof includes hands he folds pre where he would've hit a straight and others where he has 2 overs vs a pair, calls 2 streets post-flop without hitting and folds river. That is proof it's rigged? LOL
Most ignorant and most small minded statement ever. I know that it is rigged because the math doesn't add up online. The impossible happens on the regular and that is a clear sign that it is rigged. My last session played on GGPoker, I dont' have the exact numbers because its on my other computer but I remember playing allinorfold and losing at a rate of -125bb/100 with an allin adjusted rate of 48bb/100. GG didn't even give me all the HH from that session. I lost one hand where the player had one out before the flop. Guess what I lost. I also lost to this same player everytime except for two hands. I had this player dominated 5 times in a row and lost all 5. I also had them dominated with pair over pair 3 times in a row and lost all 3.


I do have more proof if you want to laugh and dismiss that and make yourself look more foolish than you already have. In fact, I got raped so bad on GG that they wouldn't give me the HH. The games on GG are laughable that anyone would think they are random and not rigged. I'm also missing $479 that I don't know what happened to it and when I contacted support. GG told me that they aren't a bankroll management service and that I should take the HH and upload it into a program. I had obviously done this and still am $479 short. There were some crazy suckouts that I are missing from the HH so I'm guessing they got rid of some of the bad since I got 1 outered not once, not twice, but three times in one session. GGPoker is a joke.

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04-11-2022 , 04:47 AM
You seem like a sensible person who makes wise decisions.
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