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08-04-2022 , 05:32 AM
More rake is better!
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08-04-2022 , 01:53 PM
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08-08-2022 , 08:31 AM
I’m surprised no one has suggested the quickest way to fix it.

Move up to the next stake (or better yet, two up).

You’ll get it all back in no time.
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08-08-2022 , 06:13 PM
Folding AA Preflop when it can improve on the Flop/Turn or River seems extremely Nitty. I mean you could draw a Boat/Set/you could even hit a flush or straight draw(both) or use a bluff to take down a hand with a decent bluff catcher in AA LOL...

Sure in a 9 way pot I probably would tread awfully carefully with AA and considering chip stacks and what is a stake I might even fold it(If 3 or 4 guys get KO'd and the Prize Jump is so significant why not sometimes in some situations?). Potentially cause I think I can outplay the person I'm up against if they let me see flops. Cause in the old days I played a lot of Heads up NLHE which made me very hard to beat in that situation. In live games I don't remember losing heads up but once a $250 hand where I shoved Ducks vs A-6. I thought Villain couldn't have better but the error was I would of easily outplayed them in the long run and there was no reason to do this, flip for the whole pot with just a tiny advantage.

Hard lessons in Poker unfortunately ... AA wins 90%+ for me in Micro cash 5 NL in 17k thousand hands. I am sure it would sink down over 100k hands or 1 million but I mean that's the evidence you want there you go. I'm sure it would held up at 25 NL, 200 NL, or Middle or High stakes. I don't recall ever losing a hand at a casino with AA yet.

People tend to limp + Trap + Get tricky with AA in that case I think they get punished when a few blinds is quite nice right? That or a guy with KK/QQ or Maniac? (I can be a maniac sometimes so I know them, if you get that lucky maniac you will pull your hair out) variance is tough.. Rounders, "Some people, pros even, won't play No-Limit.

They can't handle the swings."

(Think it's true the swings are mad in NL)




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Originally Posted by JimL
Since this thread is pretty useless and a waste of time anyway, I am going to nit it up with technicalities.

AA only loses 20% of the time when stacks are gotten in preflop. Heads up you should win with it more often than 80% if stacks do not go in pre. (You should beat hands like 44 where a 4 theoretically comes on the river). That needs to be balanced against the fact that AA is less than 80% if it is a multi-way pot. In fact, can win less than 50% of the time when stacks go in preflop if there are enough players in the pot.******


****** However that does not mean AA can ever be -EV because the more people preflop increase the size of the pot so even if AA is only 40% against the field preflop, the size of the pot will more than make up the difference. This note is solely for a player named Rick who I used to play with who argued for folding AA preflop if there were too many players already all in since you weren't favored (I.E. over 50% to win).

Anyway, sorry for wasting everyone's time, but that is what you get for reading threads like this.

Last edited by AspiringPlay; 08-08-2022 at 06:20 PM.
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08-13-2022 , 12:33 AM
OP you know you can just type ****ing it isn't a sin?
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08-13-2022 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AspiringPlay
Look at the situation:

I'll give you my own. In the past 4 days I had KK busted about 4 times. I busted it 2 times. . . My most profitable hand was a 7-5 suited that I was allowed to limp where guy flopped a set of Kings. Honestly when you throw out a big raise that's not big enough people are looking to Set Bomb you. They're looking to draw on you with Straight-Flush Draws. When 2 or 3 Callers come into a Pot KK is probably at best favored a few % and well honestly I wanted to know is on-line Poker on the site I was playing rigged so I ran 17 thousand hands. Yes I did this... If I had a license with that Software I'd of run 30 thousand hands.

AA won over 90% of the time(of course I generally raise heavily with my pocket pairs which is predictably going to get me a lot of folds)

KK was Profitable in the Long run and every other pocket pair down to I believe 2s. I think 2s were and 3s were on the edge of not profitable(look 2 week journey to 5-10 NL journey) that I honestly couldn't keep up with.

Aces get busted, Kings get busted. Play em 150 times, or 500 times and they will bust less often. Lower your Limit to micro stakes and see the results in a HUD/Spreadsheet that's practically free. You are not losing with these hands unless you're limping with them and trying to get clever.

NOW! If you're playing High Stakes Poker well, that's entirely different and well, yanno what good luck next time. I went on a Poker Boat and played 2/5 NL and left with like $0 cause of the taxi and dinner and on that Boat that night I got 4-5 to Pocket Pairs.(Aces, Kings, Queens multiple times with Sets and you name it) Nobody called my Nitty Plays... I was a baby back then didn't know you gotta trap people, I expected them to be like on-line players LOL


I am a mediocre Poker Player(A Fish) cause I'm not quite healthy enough to play(and get overly emotional) but you wanted an answer to why you get busted. We all get busted ... Last night I had $25 bucks on KK and guess what, 3-bet 4-bet, yep I felt he had the Aces and he did. Maybe you can fold KK sometimes when they 4-bet you? Some Professionals MAY advocate this?

It's hard to win in poker even with Pocket Pairs.
Hmm.. I think folding KK might be definitely -EV in long term...
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08-15-2022 , 05:01 AM
God damn racist poker.

I'm a white man so I'm okay with it.
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08-15-2022 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerscamdetector
I know how you feel because I experience the same thing. It seems like a systematic and pervasive plot that's permeated through gambling industry at every level, designed to cheat the best and brightest players of ethnic minorities especially Asians and undeservely lift up the white men. It looks like the entire live poker industry has been running this racist scheme for a very long time and they think no one is smart enough to figure it out.
This is the front runner for the single dumbest thing I'll read on the interwebs today. Excellent work.
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08-15-2022 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerscamdetector












Kenny Nguyen flopped quad 66s and lost to 10 high straight flush.



These bad beat hands occured in the biggest tournament of the year. Why did 4 Asian players lost those moster hands to the white players ? Why wasn't it the other way around?
No Asian has ever won a big tournament....
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09-01-2022 , 01:13 AM
I understand all too well. I played live for 9 hours recently. In that time, I only had one straight, one flush (Q high), ZERO full houses, ZERO sets, AA cracked by 4 to a straight, etc! Opponents showed me their monster hands if we did not get to the river.
If I folded preflop, I would see that I would have missed the board anyway. I am not talking about the skill in poker, but the actual run bad.
I hear a lot…”well, you played that right…nothing you could do, you just got unlucky.”
A LOT!!!
I don’t know what it is like to have the “hot seat”.
Just venting…wondering if anyone else had a long card dead streak from variance, but then it turned around?
I have been coolered as well…where I had best hand until the river. The other day though, I just could not even catch a hand, while opponents were flopping full houses against me! One cooler example though…speaking of KK:
A few sessions ago, I had KK and three bet the preflop raiser. He called. I got a full house with KJJ on flop. I went all in and my opponent called. A third Jack came out on river to give him four of a kind with his AJ off suit!!
I am well studied in poker, and keep up with studying in between poker sessions. I am continually learning to improve my game, but I swear… I am talking about just a long time of bad variance! I know someone said to have positive thoughts. I did have positive thoughts, vibes, whatever. It didn’t matter. I even meditated to, “I am lucky” positive affirmations lol! So, I am not even sure about the whole LOA thing, and faith bc of poker now. Kind of funny, but a bit true.
My question is:
Has anyone out there ever endured a long streak of negative variance? If so, did you ever get �� lucky ���� (in poker)!
How long did the neg streak last?
Please don’t talk about skill, etc. I am highly intelligent. I know that big famous name poker stars have had losing streaks too. Same great player, differing results! But, it seems that many were lucky enough to start on the positive side of variance before losing some, which helps.

Last edited by CGreen317; 09-01-2022 at 01:26 AM.
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09-01-2022 , 03:29 AM
If luck isn't on your side or variance you'll tilt no matter who you are ... You might be a robot? I watch is it Kevin Martin run hot into like 5-20 Grand in a MTT on GG. He was running so hot! I have ran hot in a tournament up until 8th, first would of been game changing and run into an extreme cooler with a huge advantage. It's really psychologically hard to cope with, to have a bad streak. And there is a huge element of gambling going on in Poker. Watched a kid named Rampage blow off what seemed to be an entire Bankroll in Live Poker against a guy I could see, I'm sure you could see, anyone could see you shouldn't bluff. The guy was a stone cold man...I don't know what he lost(hundred K?) he was not there afterward psychologically for a bit but now is doing really well.

I think the guys that deal with the tilting and manage their Bankroll and understand it's just variance come out ahead a lot cause when the variance shifts against them they just cope better... I watch a lot of break even players or fun players and they really don't really care and maybe that's the best way to be if you can't cope with the ups and downs. It's too much sometimes!

You are going win more often with your good hands and great ones but not always and I have had 60X Sun Runs and other when I can't catch a card. In fact I just continually am trumped by the other guy. WE all go through that I think it's just life. I think in order to be a professional at poker you had to catch great cards, at the right time, at the right place continually or order to psychologically and financially to carry on or justify what you're doing.

(I think that's all the pros in the game that are doing well) So yeah, it's Luck and Providence often that made that guy who is sitting there with 20 Million. He had his Sun Run into Millions and can afford to learn and play Poker for a living and he has some natural talent, some don't even that... but you can't continually explain someone is always cashing, that guy has more than just luck on his side)



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Originally Posted by CGreen317
I understand all too well. I played live for 9 hours recently. In that time, I only had one straight, one flush (Q high), ZERO full houses, ZERO sets, AA cracked by 4 to a straight, etc! Opponents showed me their monster hands if we did not get to the river.
If I folded preflop, I would see that I would have missed the board anyway. I am not talking about the skill in poker, but the actual run bad.
I hear a lot…”well, you played that right…nothing you could do, you just got unlucky.”
A LOT!!!
I don’t know what it is like to have the “hot seat”.
Just venting…wondering if anyone else had a long card dead streak from variance, but then it turned around?
I have been coolered as well…where I had best hand until the river. The other day though, I just could not even catch a hand, while opponents were flopping full houses against me! One cooler example though…speaking of KK:
A few sessions ago, I had KK and three bet the preflop raiser. He called. I got a full house with KJJ on flop. I went all in and my opponent called. A third Jack came out on river to give him four of a kind with his AJ off suit!!
I am well studied in poker, and keep up with studying in between poker sessions. I am continually learning to improve my game, but I swear… I am talking about just a long time of bad variance! I know someone said to have positive thoughts. I did have positive thoughts, vibes, whatever. It didn’t matter. I even meditated to, “I am lucky” positive affirmations lol! So, I am not even sure about the whole LOA thing, and faith bc of poker now. Kind of funny, but a bit true.
My question is:
Has anyone out there ever endured a long streak of negative variance? If so, did you ever get �� lucky ���� (in poker)!
How long did the neg streak last?
Please don’t talk about skill, etc. I am highly intelligent. I know that big famous name poker stars have had losing streaks too. Same great player, differing results! But, it seems that many were lucky enough to start on the positive side of variance before losing some, which helps.
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09-01-2022 , 09:55 AM
Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, AspiringPlay.
I think you have a great point, that it works best when you can just have fun and not care about the outcome as much. The art of not giving a F… seems to create better outcomes in poker lol!
I remember a player saying that as soon as he said “WTF, I don’t care: i am just going to have fun” the cards fell his way!
Just try to always play your “A” game, and keep learning.
So…the recommended bankroll has to be there, first of all. Otherwise, deep down something is already working against a person and their mindset.
Anyway…I appreciate the reply.
I am taking a tiny break from play, but not study.
I will be back soon with a positive update! (:
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09-02-2022 , 12:00 AM
Hi I've played poker for a couple years now, have seen a number of cool things take place. I'll tell you about the most memorable hand I've played in.

So, I was dealt pocket 6's. A third 6 landed on the flop, along with a 2 and a Queen. A few bets are placed, and then one dude raises by going all-in. I call. There's another guy left in the hand who has his cards covered. I don't see him. I turn up my cards revealing my set of 6's. The guy on my left turns up his cards to reveal a set of 2's and lays them down. I double facepalm myself, realizing I just made a horrible blunder. The turn is the 2 of diamonds. This makes a flush for the guy still in the hand but gives me a full house, and thus I win the hand. My horrible blunder ironically ended up saving me a ton of money. The dude on my left obviously would have called had I not shown my cards, and he would have won with quads.

Interesting, right? What is your most memorable poker hand?
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09-02-2022 , 12:43 AM
In all seriousness, if you just tighten up your ranges a little this would probably decrease coolers a bit. Players put themselves in tighter spots often because of wider ranges and having to call of in tougher spots.
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