I'll let sharkscope and your poker tracker software be the ultimate decider of that.

xorbie,

Can you please explain how its ethical to profit off online poker when you are really just a drag on society and not providing utility to the system you are taking from?

Take your crap to SMP. I think in BBV we only do things like 1) flame other people 2) brag 3) incite?

This thread has convinced me to put in way more hours shortstacking.

Who says I think it's alright to sit around and play poker all day and do nothing else? I do other things to keep my life meaningful, poker is just fun and money.

k so your breakeven over your last 5000 games, but showed a nice profit over your first 600 or so so clearly those last 5k are just wicked variance.

Get a job LDO. One that benefits humanity. If you're gonna pull that jaded hippy gheyness... Seriously though. Ripping on someone for certain ethical considerations when you sit at home and take advantage of the fact that people are bad at math is a bit pretentious, no?

I think a major hurdle we have is that shortstackers feel that they are hated because they are just too good, and that their strategies are too complicated for us to exploit.

I guarantee you it is more -EV for me for cts to sit on my left with a full stack than DCJ311 with a minbuy. But I respect cts's game, because even if he owns me, I might have a little fun in the process.

Shortstackers: You are not liked because you ruin the fun of the games. I can't stop you from shortstacking, but I can dislike the fact that you are exploiting bad rules for your own personal gain.

You have a PHD in statistics no doubt, nice find.

No.

For all the reads, I am going to quote myself again since I (quite understandably) got no replies from the shorties about the jam and fold-game. So here goes:

Btw, I'll do all you shortstackers a big disfavour: I recommend everyone to buy or read mathemathics of poker, page 135, for a chart of Jam-or-Fold game. This will pretty much guarantee that you will not ever be making a mistake in a blindfight with 20bbs.

Enjoy!

You clearly have mastered ethics. Write the book then. It can be your benefit to humanity. "Eff relativism. Xorbie is god." can be a working title. Maybe subtitle it "Eff the shortstackes" and then write a chapter "Why playing zero sum games that have the potential to ruin people's lives so that I don't have to get a job is clearly on the moral high ground, whereas taking advantage of me in a similar way is not only unethical but intellectually dishonest."

STFU.

Imsa,

Why do you bother making all these worthless posts?

If anyone can read through this entire thread without killing themselves they deserve a pat on the back.

Summary of thread:

LOL I PWN CHOO CHOO

CHOO CHOO

STFU SHORTSTACKER

CHOO CHOO

MDMA: One last post from me on this **** shortstacking debacle since it's just growing really annoying now that people just refuse to understand the math. YOU CANNOT ADJUST TO BOTH FULLSTACKS AND SHORTSTACKS AT THE SAME TIME; YOU CAN ONLY DECIDE WHICH YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOSE TO, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE RANGE THAT WORKS AGAINST BOTH, SO STOP SAYING PEOPLE JUST SUCK AT ADJUSTING WHEN IT IS IN FACT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.

IMSAKIDD: CHOO CHOO

Everyone else: BLAH BLAH CHOW MEOW BLIND BATTLE EXPLOITATIVE STRATEGY BOAT PENGUIN WATERMELON

I'm trolling MDMA cause all he does is troll me.

I am not a relativist. Poker is not zero-sum. And that's just the start!

Seriously, where do you come off? Do you know what I do with my time? No, so please to be stfu.

As to the rest, just read Parlay's posts. If you don't get it, well that just explains why you are shortstacking.

sigh

All you do is constantly troll non stop

What's the point?

I think we get it already. You are a successful (I assume) shortstacker, and you don't care if anyone thinks it is right or wrong. You respond to frustration with blanket trolls like "CHOOO CHOOO" or whatever.

I just don't understand what you are getting from the community or what the community is getting from you.

I'm sorry i didnt realize I didnt fit into all of the content rich posts in BBV.

I respond to otherwise stupid and/or uninformed posts with CHOO CHOO because it is the sounds that trains make and arguing on the internet is stupid.

i enjoy when parlay slow is bored and decides to own threads on 2p2

MDMA is a [censored] idiot? lol. ok buddy.

I would just assume if you thought arguing on the internet was so stupid that you wouldn't constantly try to troll everyone and make them even angrier.

I guess you just really like antagonizing people.

LOL blanket statements + fanboys = truth

Thremp:

please pokerstove a range against which pushing with any two in the SB is profitable because opponent folds far too often.

i'd be very curious.