FGators graph thread [modnote: read the end, it's even worse] - Page 8

i would contact stars and ask them how many hands they have you playing, and see if it aligns with the amount of data that was imported

i have asked them for 30k hand chunks before in the past and they came up short once or twice

who knows, there could be some more losses out there that haven't been accounted for

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10-11-2007 , 10:06 PM

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ImsaKidd

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You people have to admit that there aren't an amazing stats listed here that prove I should be a lifetime cash loser...im not playing 49/5 and winning 29% at showdown

I gotta get more aggro in spots, absolutely and I'm trying to work on that.

yeah because preflop stats make a winning player

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10-11-2007 , 10:06 PM

#178

BowToYourSensei

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in on page 2 as well

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10-11-2007 , 10:06 PM

#179

ImsaKidd

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170 replies in 45 minutes. this is out of control

of course, by fgators math, that's like 500 replies.

The thread runs below expectation.

I BET IF WE RAN POSTEV WE WOULD SEE THAT.

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10-11-2007 , 10:07 PM

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Micro Donk

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i guess ill be in page 2 as well

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10-11-2007 , 10:09 PM

#181

Dids

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10/11/2007 NEVER FORGET.

FGATORS DAY.

God bless the long run.

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10-11-2007 , 10:10 PM

#182

ImsaKidd

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10/11/2007 NEVER FORGET.

FGATORS DAY.

God bless the long run.

Dude 1.5M hands not long run, he ran bad.

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10-11-2007 , 10:11 PM

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JP OSU

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yeah because preflop stats make a winning player

O cmon this is too easy...

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10-11-2007 , 10:11 PM

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rothko

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[b] someone who uses holdem manager tell hra where to find the rake.

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10-11-2007 , 10:11 PM

#185

Biggle10

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I'm sure he's in the black due to rakeback/bonii.

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10-11-2007 , 10:11 PM

#186

AntonHeat

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This is nuts. Also post PT SS and the date he started this.

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10-11-2007 , 10:12 PM

#187

Keyser.

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since you haven't posted in this thread yet, I'll assume you haven't read it: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12450887

just b/c you have meow-chow preflop stats in no reason indicates that you should win money at poker

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10-11-2007 , 10:12 PM

#188

ajmargarine

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Fgators:

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Keep in mind, like everyone, I really had no clue what I was doing my first 200k hands probably, maybe more and I don't really remember how I ran.

o snip, awesome!

This is funny. But, honestly, it's kind of sad too.

fg:

1. You were so wrong in the above.
2. You were so wrong in the 4m hand estimate.
3. You were so wrong in estimating how much you were actually down.

4. ????

5. You are of course correct in your evaluation of yourself as a poker player???

Why can't you see this?

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10-11-2007 , 10:12 PM

#189

FenixOnTilt

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[warning, rough estimation post]
assuming you get 1,5fpp/hand, that brings you to about 2,5m FPP earned while playing these hands
stars pays.. what? 25% to supernovas? so you payed around 200k rake and received ~50k of it back. (~0,6ptbb)
also let's assume you only played nl200, that makes you a -0,25ptbb/100 losing player.
so you are -after adding the RB- basically winning around 0,4ptbb/100.
that would put you up one stack every 12k hands.
If you would stop dumping money on other limits you would be winning 0,7ptbb/100, so only 7,2k hands for a stack. GO 4 IT!

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10-11-2007 , 10:15 PM

#190

ImsaKidd

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yeah because preflop stats make a winning player

O cmon this is too easy...

LOL BUT A CHOO CHOO DOES HURR HURR HURR

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10-11-2007 , 10:16 PM

#191

shipitkthx

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[b] someone who uses holdem manager tell hra where to find the rake.

I did an estimate based on hands I have from stars and I came to a total MGR of like $215k. Thats MGR, not rake paid. If this was Full Tilt and he had 27% rb that would be about $58k in rakeback. No idea what its worth in FPPs.

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10-11-2007 , 10:20 PM

#192

nath

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I know I don't play bad.

My MOM says I'm cool!

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10-11-2007 , 10:22 PM

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nath

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The only people that I'll actually respect bashing me as a bad player are the three that are in possession of all the hands and aren't being results oriented.

how can you be this delusional

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10-11-2007 , 10:23 PM

#194

ImsaKidd

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I know I don't play bad.

My MOM says I'm cool!

Hey, what a coincidence!!

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10-11-2007 , 10:25 PM

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The only people that I'll actually respect bashing me as a bad player are the three that are in possession of all the hands and aren't being results oriented.

how can you be this delusional

how can you be this results oriented?

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10-11-2007 , 10:26 PM

#196

nath

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Everybody that has played with me and plays the Stars $1/2 game knows that I shouldn't be an overall loser at that game and if you truly believe that you are nuts when you see how many 50 BB idiots play that game.

why are you so afraid to admit that you just suck

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10-11-2007 , 10:26 PM

#197

Khaos4k

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Here's the thing I don't understand.

"Poker is rigged, and more specifically, stars is rigged against me personally. I will play at Stars."

If this is your logic, you are not good at poker.