COGNITIVE DISSONANCE FTW!!!!!

Exaggeration. My green line runs at about half my red/blue. So he could realistically have like 250K by now.

Wow, Fgators is one unlucky son of a bitch.

gators, when you're a huge nit and only put your money in with very very strong hands, you're going to lose way more to suckouts than you're going to win.

And hands that are 80% favorites lose one out of five times.

why would he? his luck has to change sometime.

Isn't that great too? My green line has always been above the red/blue, but that just depends on the style and stakes (I play 400NL+). Small stakes, obviously your opponents make you go to showdown lot more often, so it's ok to have the green line below the red/blue ones.

Lol at hra's title.

he doesn't use PT?

HE DOESN'T USE PT????

HE DOESN'T USE PT!!!!!!?????????

LOL. seriously, wtf. like, good god. this is unreal. well i hate to break it to everyone, but once fgators figures out what a HUD is and how to use one he will probably become a winning player. like, jesus. wow. i'm stunned. like wtf. i can't stop typing. i'm literally in shock. i thought this guy was just really, really bad. but the reality of it is he probably just plays bad because he plays too many tables.

Not exactly. Since his "style" relies on heavy showdown frequency his pre-showdown play only manouevers him into favourable spots. So hes bleeding chips left and right but occasionally gets it AI with <75% equity and that (not quite) makes up for earlier losses.

If youre being a good LAG youre pretty much doing the opposite. Youre trying to get hold of every chip thats in the middle by betting and raising, but occasionally people will get you in big showdown pots (where you have much less equity on average).

So in EV graphs:

the LAG lowers his reds and blues but rockets the green
the nutpeddlers have 45° reds and blues but make little money
the TAG makes money by taking the best from both worlds and has a green running slightly below red&blue

... well, and FGators is doing what hes doing.

More great advice he's sure to ignore.

and thx so much for the title. So awesome.

OK at $200 NL rake at Stars is what, maybe 2.5PTBB/100 or so? Certainly it's over 2...

And he is -0.23PTBB/100, so

He is actually taking money off the table (probably over 2PTBB/100) and only needs a RB equivalent of about 10% to break even.

As Stars FPP's for Novas as I understand it are supposed to be worth around 30% RB isn't this guy in long-term profit?

OK he's no ABA but his actual hourly win rate (after 30% RB added) would be equivalent to 0.5PTBB/100 or so (or $2/100 at 1/2). If he is 12 tabling let's assume 1k hands/hour, so that's +$20/hr or so - so even the worst poker pro in the world post-Frist still makes more than he would flipping burgers yes?

I don't.

Check his sharkscope

I regard this my duty.

What makes you think he's going to start now? Peole have been telling him he needs to use PT for well over a year - maybe longer.

In addition, players like Nath have offered to coach him for free (iirc) and he turns them away because he clearly has mad skillz and is just unlucky.

Normally, I wouldn't pile on but this guy really deserves all the ridicule.

there is no RB @ pokerstars (lol)

edit: fgators style would work well if he shortstacked imo.

Yeah I agree with all that. But FGators is running basically a nitty TAG style which is similar to me (I run at like 16/11). I run at something like 4BB/100 which isn't earth shattering but isn't bad given I run like 8 to 10 tables. So I'm trying to give a realistic idea of what FGators might achieve playing similarly except, you know, well.

LOL @ hra's title

mad props to whichever mod that was. so awesome.

actually this hand does a pretty good job showing why you are completely braindead at postflop play. when you play your style which involves only betting hard when you want to stack off, by taking this line villain knows you are folding this river close to 90% of the time unless you have a stubborn'ish KJ

He is winning, yes.

No one is denying that - with FPPs as adjusted RB plus the odd tourney score till he though Stars was rigged despite him being one of the top ten online MTT players when he plays his A game (lol) he has probably done pretty well out of poker in the sense that the average player loses the rake so he is in fact in the top 5-7% of Stars 1/2.

Plus, if im interpretting the EV graph correctly he has been running badly for the last couple hundred thou hands. Ironically he says he has started c-betting more and "other changes" to his game and he has been winning during this period he is running bad.

But at the end of the day - someone could 12 table a breakeven game and make around $20 an hour or they could do so much more to improve that.

The fact is he could improve his earn rate by single tabling a HU cash game - he could increase his earn rate by playing less tables - the fact is he doesnt play for money, he plays for FPPs.

Ironically if he sells the porsche as soon as he gets it he will get, what, $80k? Plus with SNE status he gets a free ticket to the PCA, a free ticket to the WSOP and a ticket to the Monte Carlo EPT so thats over 40k of stuff right there.

But as i said in another thread if he had improved his game to a modest 2bb/100 by not refusing to take advice and by taking on some coaching he would have made a [censored] of cash - especially if you factor in him moving up at some point in his "career".

It's not that bad. Give it a break, Clayton.

You're english is terrible.

Didnt he start using PT and a HUD when this came up like a year ago when it took like 100 people calling him an idiot for not having the programs whilst 12 tabling before he got the message?

I think his line on that hand is fine.