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Old 02-19-2017, 04:25 AM   #1
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Done man

I'm so so done, however doing my best and loosing every Spin and Go...
I guess this is an standard downsing but I feel so angry. This feelings are killing me. I keep grinding and keep loosing every single spot so no way.

Playing 10€ spind and go on pokerstars.es

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Old 02-19-2017, 05:07 AM   #2
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Re: Done man

You are a whiny little boy op. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:23 AM   #3
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Re: Done man

When you learn to spell lose and losing you could start winning. Seriously doubt it thought.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:42 AM   #4
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Re: Done man

It is not funny guys, I'm pretty done. Obviusly, I will keep trying but today feeling cracked.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:20 AM   #5
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Re: Done man

You have no chance. Even if you weren't being rigged.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:28 AM   #6
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Re: Done man

Done Man sounds like a superhero created just for bbv
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Old 02-19-2017, 02:10 PM   #7
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Re: Done man

Yesterday I was similar to a done super hero.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:55 PM   #8
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Re: Done man

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Done Man sounds like a superhero created just for bbv
What are his powers?
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Old 02-20-2017, 06:26 PM   #9
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What are his powers?
  • Giving up when faced with adversity
  • Whining
  • Posting a graph on BBV (honestly a brag)
  • Going back to the grind
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Old 02-20-2017, 07:02 PM   #10
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Re: Done man

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Old 02-21-2017, 03:09 AM   #11
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Re: Done man

who the fk plays spin and goes? Worst horse s**** ever.
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:15 PM   #12
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Re: Done man

Thinking you can win spin en go's long term. LOL.

First do the math and calculate the edge you need to win this game. Then be realistic about having it or getting it.

I'm a winning sngo player with a 11%roi. I would never play this game. You probaley have better odds at the roulette table.
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Old 02-21-2017, 05:47 PM   #13
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Re: Done man

Better luck next time.
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:09 PM   #14
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Re: Done man

winners never whine
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:14 PM   #15
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Re: Done man

Fold more rivers OP.
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:05 AM   #16
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Thinking you can win spin en go's long term. LOL.

First do the math and calculate the edge you need to win this game. Then be realistic about having it or getting it.

I'm a winning sngo player with a 11%roi. I would never play this game. You probaley have better odds at the roulette table.
What you are saying is senseless.. There are a loot of proof players winning on Spins. Actually is the most fish plenty that we have on stars.

When I'll arrive home I'll post EV$ graph. I know it is variance but when still you are not a professional and face this downs, it is difficult to keep playing and don't blow up your mind.
I feel like destroyed and if wasn't able to win any spin, although it is variance.

VOLUME === SKY! at least on spins

But I'll demonstrate that Spins is profitable even with 7% Rake as it has in Pokerstars.es.

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Old 02-22-2017, 07:23 AM   #17
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Re: Done man

spins are def profitable but have to really good work ethic and studying skills. but it isnt impossible so if you work hard af you can make it. Just make sure your willing to hard AF otherwise you wont make it. Keep that in mind
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:32 AM   #18
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Re: Done man

What do you mean with AF? Agression Frequency? If yes why you say it is so important?
Actually I'm already having a coach and improving my skills everyday. The way is set. Just I have to take it.

People are getting 150+$ hourly on the 100's Spins so it is still crushable.

The biggest problems I got are in terms of putting up the necessary volume, but I'll do whatever I need to change that.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:04 AM   #19
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Re: Done man

7% rake in a 3 handed hyper turbo. Your edge in hyper turbo is very limited, because of the big luck factor.
Every 14 games you loose 1 buyin.
After your 1664 games you already lost 118 BI to rake. Not only that, you also loose like 20% to pay for the jackpot. The big one only happening 1 in a mln.

Your loosing money every game to rake and jackpot faster then you can say "where did my money go to ? "
Loosing only this little after 1664 games is already very good in my opinion.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:49 AM   #20
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7% rake in a 3 handed hyper turbo. Your edge in hyper turbo is very limited, because of the big luck factor.
Every 14 games you loose 1 buyin.
After your 1664 games you already lost 118 BI to rake. Not only that, you also loose like 20% to pay for the jackpot. The big one only happening 1 in a mln.

Your loosing money every game to rake and jackpot faster then you can say "where did my money go to ? "
Loosing only this little after 1664 games is already very good in my opinion.
Actually HUSNG are less profitable than spins. Why? Because there are plenty of top regs there. On low stakes obviusly all is crushable, but on mid/highstakes nowadays Spins are most profitable than Heads up.

Your maths are not correct.

Here you have my EV$ graph:

https://gyazo.com/a42ade51c8f130910a1e6fbd2b9475e8



So I should be winning ~600€ and I have lost ~400€ so 100 BI down EV.

Standard in Spins, I guess, although its though for me.

But I'll put 2k or 3k games in next 2 or 3 weeks and recover from this!

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Old 02-22-2017, 09:09 AM   #21
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Re: Done man

At least in theory you're a winning player lol

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Old 02-22-2017, 09:19 AM   #22
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Re: Done man

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At least in theory you're a winning player lol

Dude seriously in your post I thought you were trolling and just giving up some money. I mean which sense has that redline? 0 sense just bluffing all spots.

Really do you expect to make profit on long term pressing randomly buttons?

You can do it as everybody just study, improve and GO BIG OR GO HOME
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:55 AM   #23
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GO BIG OR GO HOME


unfortunately you are the bird, seyroku
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:32 AM   #24
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Actually HUSNG are less profitable than spins. Why?
But I'll put 2k or 3k games in next 2 or 3 weeks and recover from this!
Well, i would hope so. HU poker is just insane rake-wise.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...l#post51657276


I look foreword to your new graph in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:46 PM   #25
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I look foreword to your new graph in the next 2-3 weeks.
Sure dude I'll be posting it here!
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