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Do you guys think I'm running bad because I visualize it? Do you guys think I'm running bad because I visualize it?

07-13-2016 , 04:07 PM
So, as I've been getting runner runnered and 2-4 outed into oblivion in the 5nl Bovada Zone, I can't help but wonder if I'm bringing this on myself. I've accumulated some pretty stunning evidence, but it is about my own thoughts so you'll have to take my word for it. Every time I'm in a big $10-$20 pot as a favorite, I always find myself visualizing the card my opponent needs to beat me, and sure enough he hits. Now, I tried this the other way around recently. I had QQ against a guy's TT all in preflop. Flop was clean, but normally this happens on the turn or river. So instead of imagining a T, I imagined a Q and BAM! Queen on the turn to seal the deal! The last hand that happened before I wrote this though, AK vs A8 on an A high flop and I tried to visualize a K, but the 8 popped into my head too fast. 8 on the turn and the pot was his. I'm going to practice to get better at this, and I"ll keep you guys updated on the results.
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07-13-2016 , 04:20 PM
A big pot is $10 - $20?? I guess money is all relative but for most people recreational players, that is their open raise size.


Any ways, Poker is a lot of back and forth, and your main problem is you are stuck at the micros, so the rake is going to be eating most of your win rate away. To combat this you need to be much better than the field or play super deep. Also, Bovada is full of gamble type players, who aren't very good. I also think their rake is too high. I would look more into how much you are getting raked when you win a hand instead of looking at how bad you are running when you lose one.
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07-13-2016 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdsallSa
So, as I've been getting runner runnered and 2-4 outed into oblivion in the 5nl Bovada Zone, I can't help but wonder if I'm bringing this on myself. I've accumulated some pretty stunning evidence, but it is about my own thoughts so you'll have to take my word for it. Every time I'm in a big $10-$20 pot as a favorite, I always find myself visualizing the card my opponent needs to beat me, and sure enough he hits. Now, I tried this the other way around recently. I had QQ against a guy's TT all in preflop. Flop was clean, but normally this happens on the turn or river. So instead of imagining a T, I imagined a Q and BAM! Queen on the turn to seal the deal! The last hand that happened before I wrote this though, AK vs A8 on an A high flop and I tried to visualize a K, but the 8 popped into my head too fast. 8 on the turn and the pot was his. I'm going to practice to get better at this, and I"ll keep you guys updated on the results.
I think you are on to something. You might have poker ESP. Don't visualize your opponents cards what's the point in that? Like you said you are bringing the bad beats on to yourself with the negative energy. Now, my advice is to create positive energy by visualizing the card you need and then it will come. This also works for the lottery just visualize the winning numbers and they will come to you.

After you use my advice and make millions don't forget who told you what to do. You can PM me for donations I will accept.
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07-13-2016 , 07:37 PM
Whether or not negativity changes the cards (which is a debate about the nature of "reality") ... it does defeat you.
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07-13-2016 , 09:05 PM
Although feeling like your running bad, and getting mad because of it can tilt you and cause you play worse on top of running bad I think you may just be in a downswing and just need to grind it out. I would suggest lower stakes but not sure they get any lower. However playing zoom/zone type games will be even variance filled maybe switch to 6max reg. tables and see how you run then. GL
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07-14-2016 , 12:02 AM
Firstly, sample size is important and secondly visualisation connected with the actual cards that come out is just the same kind of conformational bias that inexperienced poker players go through when they feel like they lose and get sucked out on more than they should which in reality they're not.
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07-14-2016 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Clevername69
Now, my advice is to create positive energy by visualizing the card you need and then it will come.
You can't just create positive energy. This is a zero-sum game. You need to channel as much negative energy throughout your day as possible in order to build up a surplus of positive energy, which you can then focus on getting the right cards.
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07-14-2016 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
You can't just create positive energy. This is a zero-sum game. You need to channel as much negative energy throughout your day as possible in order to build up a surplus of positive energy, which you can then focus on getting the right cards.
Or in other words, fold pre?
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07-14-2016 , 02:07 AM
It works the opposite for me.
I saw so many 2-outers I didn't even visualize before that now I just pray for them to come in favor of my opponent... but they don't.

That led me to 2 conclusions :

- visualize cards is BS
- God doesn't exist
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07-14-2016 , 04:08 AM
I have found that yelling "Hold, bitch!"(actually sounds like "HOOOOLD, BEETCH!" actually make hands hold more often.
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07-14-2016 , 10:38 AM
The problem is that you are acting at precisely the wrong moment. The random card generator will cause a different river card to be dealt than would have been if you had acted a millisecond earlier or later. You have become conditioned to act at the exact moment villain's outs are dealt. Try waiting approximately 337 ms longer before acting to minimize this occurrence. However, do not wait longer than 346 ms than the time at which you would naturally act, or the odds of getting sucked out on increase exponentially.
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07-14-2016 , 10:52 AM
Do you go on tilt when this happens?
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07-14-2016 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sensitivenewageguy
The problem is that you are acting at precisely the wrong moment. The random card generator will cause a different river card to be dealt than would have been if you had acted a millisecond earlier or later. You have become conditioned to act at the exact moment villain's outs are dealt. Try waiting approximately 337 ms longer before acting to minimize this occurrence. However, do not wait longer than 346 ms than the time at which you would naturally act, or the odds of getting sucked out on increase exponentially.
I love BBV so much.
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07-16-2016 , 07:38 PM
I would be tilted out of my mind if I ever lost a $20 pot!!!

Sick beat OP, hope you can somehow recover from losing every penny to your name
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07-17-2016 , 12:50 AM
It's amazing. Sometimes I have no business in a hand. Like 46dd.. Raise, squeeze, limp-cold-4bet, all the pressure you can imagine. To a point where you feel like everyone at the table knows the upcoming board and trying to just push you out. You fold. But the feeling is there. You come to a relief when the flop will come something like AK3, one diamond. Both opponents check.

Turn will be the gin draw, like a 5d. One opponent makes a very reasonable bet, one that screams "please call me". Other villain agonizes and calls. River: 2s, completing your stone cold nuts and both opponents go razzle dazzle.

There are times you actually end up calling a 3bet with the original raiser still in, flop something like 7-4-3, throw your fold button out the window and somehow end up scooping the pot.
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07-17-2016 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdsallSa
I've accumulated some pretty stunning evidence, but it is about my own thoughts so you'll have to take my word for it.
This might be the best sentence I've ever read on BBV.
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07-17-2016 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MTT_9797
I'm a ****ing idiot
FYP
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07-17-2016 , 02:51 PM
Yesterday i visualized tits and this morning i saw them, so you must be on to something, OP
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