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god damn you must read hands well with 47% wwsf and 26% WTSD

To say that you need huge natural talent to succeed in poker is probably very disrespectful to people who have a real natural talent in almost any other field. LOL at saying you need huge natural talent to succeed, at least to the level of making a 100 - 250 k a year playing. Above that I couldn´t tell you, but I will when i get up to that level. Will not be surprised to find another bunch of semi-intelligent slackers that are super mega lucky to have found something to lean on and call themselves "huge natural talents".

Please elaborate on the connection between those two stats - what do you mean exactly...?

Also, as I mention above, I believe hand reading to be a function of your mental / emotional state at the time more than anything else.

Ever noticed that some days you can put people on hands right and left, other days you´re just fumbling in the dark? They haven´t changed, you haven´t changed, your skills have not diminished. But you are probably not in that same emotional state you were in when playing the first game.

nh sir!

solid imo

where do i look, bro?

yeah, its just sometimes in interviews some pros say most people could beat up to a certain limit, but it usually sounds around 1/2 or something. just good to hear someone who thinks that what they've achieved is done through work and not talent. i guess ansky says that its all work too though

ty, sir.

I was thinking among these lines today. I'm a break even player and although I know I still have much progress to do, my main problem is lack of concentration duo to other activities in life (college, work, etc.). I'm actually considering taking a long break until I have my life organized in order to play poker as it should be played.

Good idea.

The big difference between the average 1-2 grinder and the average 3/6 or 5/10 grinder is definitiely not raw talent or godgiven natural abilities. It is risk tolerance, bankroll management, game selection, tilt control. All very simple things to reign in with a little emotional control. Once in a great while, just due to the large volume of players, you will get some kind of prodigy that will go from the micros to the nosebleeds very quickly, and not by virtue of luck or "positive variance" but a natural understanding of the game. These people are definitely the minority.

does that mean this is good?

Look at previous post.

wow amazing...
So what do you think about those people who strive to prove everything mathmatically in poker? like I realize that math is a big part of the game, but I feel that you don't need to follow "the math" 100% and a lot of it is instinct and your ability to get into your opponents head.

thoughts?

The basic math usually applies to estimating range of hands and equity against ranges. This is actually the same thing as instinct and "ability to get into opponents heads". Your instinct tells you something, consciously or subconsciously, about your opponents possible hands given the action, the size of the pot, how the board hits your opponent and what his actions mean. It also tells you something about his reactions to your different actions (betting a certain amount, raise, check-raise, etc.) A lot of this type of thinking is the same as the math type approach, although the math approach structures the subconcious thought process and gives it a face.

sick brag. if you don't mind...
how many hours a day and times a week do you play internet poker?
what website made you the most?
what do you think changed your game the most in terms of becoming such a winning player?

1. Play roughly 25 - 30 hrs a week. 6-8 tables.
2. Prima, but thats where I played most of my hands, and many hands from before these hands. I have played roughly 600 k hands of poker and won about 350 (about 425 or so w rakeback I would believe).
3. Realizing that most regulars actually were not that solid and didn´t have their own game (most just basically have picked up somebody elses preflop game that they´ve seen on a training video and have no clue why they are doing what they are doing - postflop they are usually spewy as xxxx). When you start zoning in how to scalp the regs, that´s when you start improving and that´s when you start beating the game for more than 1 ptbb / hour. And the basis for all of this was realizing how much of my game was dependant on playing when in the right emotional state, and learning how to maintain that mindframe.

v nice brag op. i also agree with most of your replies, in particular about emotional state affecting hand reading abilities.

oh and btw,

QFT, but now u incur the wrath of the thousands of US players who use not being able to play on euro sites as a blanket to keep themselves warm from the fact that they suck

This is actually pretty spot on. The reason I don´t only play the american sites is that I have to pay taxes on my winnings. I have actually thought of moving specifically for this reason (acces to US sites without having to pay taxes).

Take a break from life and play poker imo

lol, not enough love for this terrible level attempt imo

Nice stats dude...

Yeah i sort of agree with this now. I used to play prima a few years ago and did quite well just hated the software so moved to full tilt and went from 10nl to 100nl in about 5 months now had to withdraw from reason and decided to put money back on prima and grind out the 20nl there. But now im like wtf look at the tables and they all got the same people playing there after a few fishes money who are reallly bad. But the standard on American sites is normally good standard players with good regs and a few fish Europe sites has good regs and more fish. Think i may go back to full tilt tho.

This is really good. Just another question about the no hud, did you start like that or did you fade it off?

i will tell those stupid americans whining about euro being softer.

I had to start over with 750$ last month
decided to try prima

no matter what ***** hour(xcept at 2am-4am at my hours)

i am 8 tabling with 5 regs on 6 tables ++ 2 tables where theres 4 regs and 1 half fish at nl50

a couple pretty decent 13/12 that just take up space.. and a ton of 25/21... i logged 100k hands at party 200nl this year and raped it.. i find those 50nl game a ton harder than 200nl on party.. about the same level as party 400nl, just less agression preflop.

now that im overolled for 200nl im not even gonna try to move up on there... those small euro sites are terrible as far as fish goes


same goes for ipoker, unless you spend your whole session scanning with spade eye and switching tables, its terrible. party too but much less..

softest game i have played were stars 200nl, much softer than party 50-200nl because as the op said.. most regs are a bunch of turds playing exactly how they play in videos and also america has so many rich people never willing to learn poker better

if it wasn't for rakeback 90% of the euro grinders would be on stars/ft..