WOW just read entire thread, thought it was another standard BBV brag thread and avoided it for a while because i get tilted when i see monster graphs

Raptor recommend that along with another one...something about "mindfullness"

link to read the bk online for free:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3015908/Ec...f-Now-complete

Thanks for the book title _Spectacle_ and for the link Monarchy113.
I downloaded it and started reading it.

It seems similar to what this page calls Freeze Framing. I think that link was from this thread also, but can't remember. Basically that link says that you should call a 'Time Out' by shifting focus from your emotions to almost anything else - a spot on the wall even or your heart beating - then once distracted from your emotions, go back and look at your current emotional situation from an observers perspective hence detatching yourself from your emotional state.

I also stayed with a monk a while ago (yea, new age blah blah - I went there cuz a friend went there and living without electricity sux) and during a chat one evening, the monk did say that his meditation was basically this idea - observing his emotions from afar. Thinking why he felt how he felt and trying to understand that those feelings were based on physical chemicals and we not in fact his minds feelings .. or something along those lines.

In any case, all of those are the same idea ... and an interesting idea to understanding tilt from emotional play.

Thanks again for the links guys.

Thank you for posting boywonder, I enjoyed reading your insights and have in the recent weeks been spending lots of time trying to accomplish many of the things you currently do.

By far and away the worst poker book I have ever read. (I have not read Phil Hellmuths book) I couldn't get through more than 10 pages because the book was insulting to my intelligence. From my recollection (I've tried hard to forget) it is clear that the author doesn't understand the most basic principles of poker, such as EV. I'm pretty sure the author was trying to make up excuses for why they can't win. IMO, this book will make you worse at poker.

Check the books & publications forum for reviews. I don't believe that you'll find any positive reviews of this book.

nice brag

Yes, worth a read if you are looking to work on your mindset. Just disregard the poker advice.

I have a new found love for the game after reading this thread

Plus after reading it a few days ago i took down a donkament

+1

have boywonder made video?
want to read all this thread.

would be nice to know more about what it takes to have a good emotional state of mind when playing poker...and how one would go about doing this(tips maybe)...also it would be nice to know how one can look at oneself and be honest about their emotional state and the ability to control this state of mind? any tips that you use or think would work for others would greatly help and be appreciated ty!

ty for starting this great thread op

play on a stake works wonders

Congrats for your stats and for the simple way you explain evrything...

What kind of fish do you look for? high VPIP low PFR ? like 40/6 ? or you also consider fish a weak tight?

Where can I find videos from leatherass?

thanks a lot

www.stoxpoker.com

(Great training site)

hey boywonder... are you there?

bump

very true!! I have noticed that when i was playing today i turned off my music and just played poker and i was making insane reads and doing good in 25NL.

best thread in bbv in weeks

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I'm going to have to agree...
Don't make a poker video.

The poker videos / tracker / etc are what have morphed especially online poker into the 3betting crapshoot it has turned into, not to say its not beatable, it's just that making a video about this would only make the game probably even more ridiculous, less bb/ for everyone, eventually it'll be virtual pointless for anyone besides the casino rake.

Great post tho OP, very nice very nice, i have enjoyed simply reading about how you think about the game, think that sheds enough light for everyone.

Very nice read, ty OP.

I read through this entire thread tonight (while playing a Donk & Go for FPP) and I have one observation.

The replies to the tune of "WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING AWAY THIS INFORMATION, YOU ARE RUINING POKER FOREVER!" make me LOL.

The main secret here is emotional control, that's the entire thread boiled down to one concept.

And guess what? If humans were good at learning emotional control, we wouldn't have a divorce rate of > 50%. I have friends who went on tilt the morning they got back from the honeymoon and were divorced 10 months later.

It's not the cards. It's not in a JohnnyBax video. And the vast majority of humans are showing little progress in this area; in fact, I believe we're generally regressing with so much modern choice and distraction. This leads to profitable poker games.

Think about that.

Useful Commentator is very impressed by OP, his posts, his replies, and his generosity.

Useful Commentator just regrets that OP is not very generous while playing Poker.

Useful Commentator didnt make useful comments as usual but feels good about himself because of the great insights of this posts.

useful Commentator will go back to paper notes and understands ( clicks ) despite being already a winning player, the essential concept of beating a limit now.

THanks Wonderboy

A weak tight player is definitely a mark, he is bleeding at a slower but much more regular pace. The reason my graphs are so variance free are in large part due to some weak tight recreational players as well as many weak tight regulars.

That made me smile

boywonder-

Have you read/are you aware of Tommy Angelo's book?

If not, I think for someone like you it's worth a read.

I am aware, but have not read it yet.

Also, update on results playing with a HUD;

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...w-ahud-338578/