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and lol ^^

ok 1st post guys, couldnt resist this thread. My degenning prbly started when my dad used to take me to the horse track when i was 16. I quickly became hooked and since you only had to be 17 to gamble at the track, i quickly started blowing paychecks and maxing out ATM daily limits. Once i started college, instead of being at class I'd be at the track. Never really won anything big, a few times I had some near 5k wins (woulda been a lot for me at the time). Anyways so this is pretty much destroying my life, u know the whole lying to family & g-friend, maxing out C-cards w/cash advances, overdrawing bank account etc. I musta been stuck about 30k from age 17-21. @21 of course I added the casino to my list of hobbies. Craps, BJ, and even video poker. Had mild success but mostly losses thru about a year of playing.

Now, here comes the COMPLETE TRAIN WRECK. So after always blowing off g-friend, she breaks up w/me (together for 5 years). I dont care at the time & am only thinking about gambling, still going to the boats and track. By now I'm so far in debt and working at sh**ty min wage job I decide to do a 'smart' thing and withdraw from college the 1st week (I was a senior going into this final year...bye bye education). I got a refund check of about 5k. I feel like a baller as I proceed to go every day to the boat with the money and playing in the high limit baccarat room. The 1st day was almost a disaster as on the way there about 8am I approached a toll plaza and 'thought' that I had seen the gate go up after throwing the coins in. Well with the sun shining directly in my face, I proceed to drive through. Problem: the gate never went up, and I smashed right through it leaving a big yellow smattering of paint across my windshield. Im so scared that I get off at the nearest exit and proceed to the casino through side streets and thought for sure I was gonna get pulled over or somethin. So maybe this was a bad sign of things to come b/c i kid u not from buying in w/5k betting 100/200/300 a hand i was left with $350. To make a long story short, after 12 hours I make a miraculous comeback and end up winning about 800 for the day (this included a $500 Lay against the 10 on the dice table that hit on the 1st roll lol). I proceed to go back 3 days in a row w/my whole roll and win between 500-1000 each day. Finally the 4th day I'm getting killed, mega-tilting, and proceed to blow the whole roll betting 500, 800, even 1000 a hand. It was so pathetic that when i was down to my last couple hundred I had 'check-changed' for red chips. The pitboss comps me and my friend a whole pizza afterwards. Most expensive $7500 freakin pizza i've ever eaten in my life. Only thing I wanted to do was drive off the expressway exit ramp into this giant quarry that was there. My dad finds out, kicks me out of the house, and now i'm homeless staying in motel 6's in run down areas b/c theyre only like 28 bucks a night and i had a tiny bit of room on my credit cards. Every night i pulled out my bottle of vodka and a pocket knife and i would contemplate that 'thought'. Finally my mom takes me in and i get a job (o i forgot to mention that when i dropped outta school, i got fired from my job for not showing up b/c i was at the boat from like 8pm til 11am). Oh and top of all this my dad convinces me to file for bankruptcy b/c im in mega c-card debt and they were all comin after me for collections and court proceedings. Do any of u know anyone that filed for bankruptcy at 21????

So now livin w/mom i decide to join the world of online poker. (I had just lost $5000 to my bookie on NCAA BB that I never paid off so I was chasing that with poker) B/c this is so long already i'll just try to summarize. Here is a quick list of the pokers sites i played and what happened to me on them....Paradise - banned b/c I wrote multiple bad echecks thru fire pay. Pacific - banned myself from losing too much. Absolute - banned myself after mulitple poker losses and losing paycheck in 30 minutes on the blackjack. Party Poker - ran BJ up to $12,000 and lost it all in the next night. Banned myself. Bodog- banned b/c they say I bounced an echeck.
Then I started doing bad things at my job to fund my poker/casino/horse habit. I started 'borrowing' the closing deposit from my work. The 1st time I had almost lost it playing BJ at the boat but got lucky to get it back and break even. Not learning that I almost had a disaster, the very next night I did it again and lost the whole deposit (like $1200). I had to tell my dad and he gave me the money to put in the store's bank so that no one would find out the next day at closing. So now i'm chasing again and decide to take a title loan on my car for 1500. Lose that at the track an hour later. F*ck!! Why am i so degen?! Mom kicks me out b/c of my gambling and dad takes me back in. I take out 2nd title loan and payday loan to pay off the 1st so i dont lose my p.o.s. car to the repo men. Now i'm really chasing so i start writing 'credit card checks' to myself w/the new post-bankruptcy credit card i got and take the $ out before it gets denied. Did this 3 days in a row and blew all the money at the track each day. C-card gets shutdown after this as well as bank being negative 800.

I finally move away and get back into school for 2 classes so that i could get a financial aid refund of like 5k. The 1st week im a good boy and pay bills and dont gamble. But sure enough i get on a huge BJ rush at the casino. Up like 2200 in 4 days. 5th day i go to the OTB (off track betting for horses) IDK why i did, but i went busto there. So pissed, i proceed to blow my 5k student aid refund chasing on BJ and baccarat. Get dropped from school b/c i stopped going getting F's in both classes (1st time in over 90 credits i ever got an F). I had so many comps on my casino card that I just ate meals there everyday since i had no $ to buy store-food. Eventually cable got shut off. Electric almost got shutoff until i echecked them and negged like 500 again in another bank. I evenutally ran outta comps and had to have mom send me oatmeal and other crap that i lived on. As a last chance before getting evicted i was invited to blackjack tournament w/108 ppl where top 7 got paid. 1st got 10k, 2nd 2500, etc. I finished 6th b/c 2 guys below me in $$ passed me on final hand. 1st guy doubles down on 14 (vs a 3 up card) and gets a 6, 2nd guy splits 10's and gets a another 10 and a 2; he splits the 10s again and gets another 10 and stays, and he doubles on the 12 and gets a 7 to make 19. So I take $250 for 6th place, 4th and 5th got 750 each. My rent was $750, due in 4 days. B*tch! So I take the 250 to the bacarrat table tryin to get to 750 and i get to about 625 before mega cooler and ultimately go broke. I get evicted eventually. I am now 27 living in dads basement completely broke, collecting 111/week unemployment and 99/month food stamps in mega debt w/credit score of probably negative-something and collectors calling me 17 times a day. I have also put on about 45 lbs from depression. FML



Beats (the bad ones): lost 5-year g-friend, bankruptcy at 21, mega student loan debt, college career f'd, lost 12k party poker BJ in 1 night, 7500 lost on baccarat in 1 day, multiple bank accounts overdrawn, almost got car repo'd, evicted.

There is so much more but this already too long. Sorry guys for making it so long. And I wish like some of the other stories on here I coulda captured my emotions better through all those times. O and I'll mention 1 more thing. During 2 days in my APT the casino gave away free apple pies for video poker play. I had no comps at the time or $ for store-food (f'ing degen me i'd rather use my last $1.25 for a spin on video poker than for a box of macaroni and cheese at the store). So for 2 days straight I ate apple pie for breakfast lunch and dinner. And I didnt have any freakin milk.

^^^^Winner

That post is probably the worst degen story I've ever heard ^^.

Free Advice: you should probably stop gambling.

STLNolaWoj, thank you for contributing. I enjoyed reading it, did not think it was too long, and you've got balls for posting about it. I would like to read more of your stories in the future. But please, get some help first. You can't let gambling control the rest of your life like it has in this story.

tldnr

@Claut: I'll apologize again for making it too long. It was kinda hard to leave a lot of details out b/c I was trying remember stuff in chronological order.



Thanks for the encouragement. It was kinda hard to post 10 years of degenerate-ness in 1 post so like I said, there is/was much much more. That was just a handful of the major things I could remember in sort of an F'd up timeline from age 16-present. And the post doesn't even capture the 'true feelings' i had after all those specific moments as you can only imagine how one would be feeling. Probably the worst was being homeless for 3 weeks living in dumpy motels b/c every day u wake up w/no money and no where to go and u dont know what to do. But also just as bad of a feeling is knowing you could bet $1000 on one hand in the casino last night, but now today you cant even buy a $3 gallon of milk or put $5 in gas etc etc etc

WOW.......what else is there to say.... Wow

I liked his story. In fact, I want to hear more of it. I've done all that.. except for the motel part, and I never declared bankruptcy

Does not seem true to me, no one has ever ****ed up this much and is not an hero

Sad, but true my friend. I wish it wasn't true, I wish that was all a 10 year bad dream. You don't have to believe it, thats your choice. But I'm the one that has to live with it. I just thought I'd share my story in case there was someone else out there who had gone through similar things. BTW don't you think if I was making everything up that I would have used obscene dollar amounts like other ppl have posted?? (example: "I lost 45k, then I turned $100 into 75k..." blah blah blah. That I'd have a hard time believing). And not everyone becomes a "hero". I'm apparently not one of the lucky ones to have a happy ending to their f*ck ups.

But anyways for those interested, since i've been living w/my dad currently, i've been decent. At least I'm not doing the stupid stuff like in the past (doing anything to get money). I still play poker and go to the OTB once in a while and mostly lose whatever little bit i have. Probably the worst thing i've done recently that I forgot to add in my long original post is that my friend had a sports betting account to which he (stupidly) gave me the password so i could make my own bets while he was at work and just do the money thru him if i won/lost. It was a credit bookie with $1000/weekly cap. One night I logged on to the casino portion of the website and proceeded to lose his whole $1000 credit in about 4 hours playing BJ 2 handed 25/hand. Felt like sh*t after that needless to say.

Now thats a degen story

And not everyone becomes a "hero". I'm apparently not one of the lucky ones to have a happy ending to their f*ck ups.


dude u are my **** HERO that story was awesome, total class what a degen u are, truly skilled in the master craft of degen-ness-ness!!

To all the tldnr hater bitches, pull your nappys back up you re-**** if any of you wee girls were a degen u would appreciate this story not just say oh its so long i like the storys where some little decrepit pube says "spun 100£ into 9k lost it at bj" tee hee hee they make me laughs.

Well done dude best degen story in a long while on this fkn epic thread!!!

Blowing your friends doe is so coool man lulzzzzz

PLEASE POST MORE NO MATTER HOW ****IN LONG ILL READ THEM

TLDNR = I AM A SAPPY LITTLE CUMSHOT DRIPPING DOWN MY GRANNYS CHIN.

Woj seriously, please post more if you feel comfortable doing so. Don't feel like you need to abbreviate your life experiences for a bunch of BBV trolls.

your loss

Quality post. Long live the degen~

My buddy is a total degenerate blackjack player, and usually it's the same scenario everytime - drink heavily, play blackjack, win a ton of money, but leave the casino broke.

But once, he was at one of the small riverboat casinos in Louisiana and he was on a heater, and had a stack of about $13,000 in chips. No doubt about it, he would keep playing until he lost it all. But the casino decided that they wanted to cut their loses for the day, and they kicked him out. He goes home, gives his wife all of the money, and she buy a new minivan the next day.

Also, my seven year old son knows how to play hold'em, omaha, and seven card stud. Am I a degen father?

chicken dinner for Woj imo

When Planetpoker wsa still around that was my first site. On my 3rd deposit I ran $50 (at the time was the smallest min deposit option available via netteller) into 1k in about 2 days. I took the 1k to 600nl and a guy sat accross from me and cleaned out the 1k within 20mins..

The guy I met proceeds to talk to me and we hit it up. He was smart enough to know he just felted my roll and offered to send back the 1k and I split future profits with him.. I started playing on mansion because he did where at the time there was 135% rakeback and other then appstop I had the most volume in this period and was making my new friend fist fulls of cash...

Between pokerroom, planet, and mansion we ran a shared roll up to about 150k. He then proceeded to find online baccarrat and big. To make a long story short he was addicted and lost his share of the roll, his house, his car and currently owes a handful of poker players ~50k including him having to sign over his condo in Mexico..

He is currently living with his parents again and is 35+

We all have a problem or wouldn't sit in front of a gambling screen for 50 hours a week.. Gotta learn to control it

what happened to you? did you end up fine?

Lol during his meltdown which lasted over a year my life went upsidedown. I was playing for a living and the amount of downtime we were all experiancing on HUGE rakeback accounts was killing my income. We would continually get an account fueld with like 5k and next day he would felt it. Say there was 5k in it and I had 1k another guy had 2k and he had 2k well we would wake up next day and all 5k would be gone to the online casino.

THe other guys here I didn't mention above but there was one one in Canada and one in Vegas and we were also crossbooking and sharing a TON of action with. The rakeback deals at this point in pokwer were so sick that with 135% RB it was like printing money so everyone was happy until the casino started for this one guy. There was more then one occasion he lost money that was bill money etc of mine and one of the other guys better rolled in Canada or Vegas bailed him out by paying him off to me. Those guys ended up with the huge debt owed from this guy and as for me I had to rebuild. I am still owed money but this was 3.5 years ago and am finally completly isolated from the meltdown.

Never undersestimate how sick it can be for a good poker player to literally be so "sick" he loses his ENTIRE life to the casino leak.

I love this thread, i feel like i am a normal person again !! Thanks bbv.

In no way am I criticizing as I know that it is not allowed in the degen thread. Also, I have posted stories of my own and have a great one that I just remembered that I plan on posting soon. But one thing I don't understand are the people that it take it to that extreme and completely mess their life up.

I think a lot of it has to do with parenting. Not saying that these people have bad parents and that mine are good.

However, my parents were the biggest pains in the ass ever. They were strict as **** and did everything they could to bring me down. Still do to this day and I am 25. I have two reg. parents and two step-parents and to give you an idea of what they are all like. Take Red Foreman from that 70's show, the mom from 2.5 men, and Tony's mom in the Soprano's. That's what I spent 18 years dealing with.

I absolutely hated my childhood and when i hear people say, "I wish I could be a kid again." Not me, I use to wish I could be an adult so I could pay rent. Even when things are really bad I would never want to go back to being a kid again. It was so bad that as soon as I turned 18, I made sure I got into a college as far away as possible and skipped town.

As a result, the constant ass kicking made me very independent and I can pretty much do anything on my own.

My parents know I "gamble" and I only say it like that because they think I am some addict who needs help, and no matter how well I do, I always hear, "well you are just going to lose it anyway and then come begging me for money.

The fact of the matter is never in my life have I gone to my parents for money for any reason because if I did they would dangle it over my head for the rest of my life.

So what I am getting at is... If I am going to take a trip to Vegas and take half my roll with me lets say $5K, there is no way that I am going to even lose half of it. Because if at some point I am down 2K, it's over... I am more or less done or gambling becomes very small just for free drinks and some laughs. I would never degen my way up to $15K and then lose it an hour because every time I think of doing something like that (and believe me these stories really inspire me to go to the craps table sometimes) I think of my mom on my shoulder... "Now, remember if you lose this money and you have to come to me I will make your life a living hell." I would never dare to go back into there home to live if I hit rock bottom. Furthermore, if I did some of the stuff some of the others have done such as take out loans, drop school, etc... and they found out that I did those things just to gamble they wouldn't even let me come home anyway. They would probably throw a cardboard box at me and say go live in this.

So when I see someone tell a ridiculous story and it ends with living in the parents basement I assume there parents are extremlely care free and laid back because I would never ever in my life allow myself to go back home and deal with that BS.

As this is probably directed mostly at my story, let me comment. 1st, congrats on having a successful and independent life. It is hard having a messed up childhood, believe me I can relate. But not everybody deals with situations and growing up the same way. My parents divorced when I was 5, and i've lived w/my dad my whole life. He got divorced again when I was 10. Finally he remarried a 3rd time when I was 19. I have numerous step parents and siblings and have moved numerous times to different cities and schools. My 1st step mom was EXTREMELY strict and probably messed me up somehow. But unlike you, I was not so lucky to have my life turn out like yours. I agree 110%, the last thing I want to be doing right now at 27 is living in my dads basement. But my addiction has caused that to happen. If you saw my post I got kicked out 3 different times, so its not a matter of my parents not caring. My dad HATES my gambling habit and said it has ruined HIS life. He is also strict, completely opposite from "care free" as you put it. While I appreciate your stance on the issue and your 1st sentence about not wanting to criticize, I do not appreciate your post all together. It took a lot of heart to post my story and from what I've gone through my whole life (by my fault or not), the last thing I want to do is read a post like yours.

Again, congratulations that YOU would never do such things, but please realize the nature of this thread and how many stories have been on here. (I obv am not the only one). I don't do heroin or cocaine, but that doesn't give me the right to tell those addicts that "I would never do such things and I don't know how you all can snort or smoke that stuff or stick needles in your arm". I'm not trying to be mean, and you might not understand, but the nature of an addiction is doing things you have no control over and doing whatever it takes to feed that addiction, whether unethical/illegal/by any means necessary. So that is why I live in my dads basement at 27, even though every day I want to be as far away from here as possible.