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02-14-2010 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDream7777
I still do not believe in br management and I will continue to risk my entire roll if I ever get money again.
I don't know what this means. Can you explain it, and also explain how this mindset could possibly be conducive to being a professional poker player?

Also, lol at being a "huge baller" with a max roll of 100k. I've won/lost that in a weekend (not gonna go farther into it than that) many times, and I still drive a Buick. Maybe humility is the problem?
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02-14-2010 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Coff
Yo your screen name is tilting the hell out of me, you are prob one of those guys who wears the shirts on the boardwalk that say....

FBI
Federal. Booty. Inspector.

Or some corny crap like that when in actuality if a girl brushed up on your leg you would bust instantly. You sir really suck.
I wish I could do that.
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02-14-2010 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDream7777
I built my roll to $100k then lost it all. I had $35k available to me in credit from the bank. $15k credit card limit, $15k line of credit and $5k overdraft. I took this money and continued to play high steaks. I entered a $1.6k buy in live tournament that allows re-entries in the first hour. I gambled like crazy to try and get chips, near the end i was just open shoving blind. On the last hand before re-entries were over open shoved 73os, guy calls with AA. Flop comes 733 and i double. I was in for 5 buy ins. I ended up min cashing for $3k. Couple weeks later i enter a $2k re-entry. I was in for 4-buy ins this time and didnt cash. Once again i open jammed into AA and cracked it with two unsuited unders. I steaked my friend who was in for 2 buyins, he also lost. At this point i have lost all that credit as well through continuing to play very high and steaking and loaning friends money to play. I am owed $45k from friends but I have no access to cash at all. Now I am steaked for mtts and i am 7k in makeup. Poker has made almost every aspect of my life worse. Im in debt, my relationships with family has gone bad as they dont accept poker, I have dropped out of university twice so I am way behind but now in 3rd year. I became clinically depressed from the losses and am now on anti-depressents. I am overweight from eating junk food and playing online poker. I have severe bad posture from slouching too much with causes back and neck pain. I have experienced urinary problems from holding it during sngs when I didn't have wireless internet. I urinate fine now. Yes i know, I should have used a pee bottle.
I still do not believe in br management and I will continue to risk my entire roll if I ever get money again. I am known as one of the most fearless and tilt proof players. The huge losses did eventually get to me but I am at peace with them now. Several times I have lost $10k in a cash game and I just understand its part of the game and buy-in some more. I continue to play fearless despite my financial position. For instance in the uboc main event, 3 bet jammed with AJos on the exact bubble when several people had less chips than me. I lost the hand but people will less chips busted on the same hand so i min-cashed. The main friend who owes me money used to be an extremely spewy horrible player when i loaned him money. He now owes me $33k.
I was always a huge baller, and now for the first time in my life I am broke, but I am such a degenerate that I am enjoying being broke. It is motivating me to keep improving my game to get out of this hole.
I have risked my entire roll in high stakes live cash games several times.
My favourite game is mtts ofcourse because I am such a degenerate and love sweating for those huge payouts, and love flipping for five figures at the final table. I enjoy the sick variance.
I went to Macau for the most recent APPT Main Event. I bought in directly using debt for the main event, cash games, side events, and all expenses. I swapped 50% with a friend who made the final table. I have since lost my share.
I have a horse who won over $100k in tournaments last year. Most of the money came to me. I lost it all and can no longer steak him.
When poker punishes me I still love it, I love every aspect of it.
When i graduate from university next year my parents will give me $25k. I will move out with this money and pursue professional poker.
Every sunday i get steaked in about 16 mtts across 12 sites for about $3k in buy ins.
Ball till you fall.

Pics of your fat ass? or your ballerness.
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02-14-2010 , 05:23 AM
This thread is amazing. Nothing I've ever done can compare with the degen glory posted here.
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02-14-2010 , 07:49 AM
One time in a live £80 MTT I pushed all in blind when I was SB vs BB and had 9BB's. I got called and the dude had Q8 with me having Q10s. I doubled up. Wow sick!

I wish I was more degen but I respect monies too much.
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02-14-2010 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by timotinbowen
I don't know what this means. Can you explain it, and also explain how this mindset could possibly be conducive to being a professional poker player?

Also, lol at being a "huge baller" with a max roll of 100k. I've won/lost that in a weekend (not gonna go farther into it than that) many times, and I still drive a Buick. Maybe humility is the problem?

Sorry i tried to make it sound as degen as possible. I am big on game selection but no i dont believe in br management. So when i had a huge roll (huge where im from), i wouldn't sit with aejones 25 50 heads up cause i know im outmatched, but i wouldn't let being underrolled take me out of soft live games. I know i have an edge in those games so i believe br management would take me out of a +ev situation. I know that 100k wouldn't be alot in vegas or LA. I also know that being underrolled means I can't make it to the long run in those soft games if i run bad at the beginning.
As far as being a professional poker player, ive played for 5 years, ive read forums, discussed hands, read 20 books, i subscribe to 4 training sites. I know all the advanced concepts and i play at a high level. I have alot of the skills necessary to succeed. Ive won math contents. Im very patient, i play mostly limit holdem and i get comments about how tight i play. Im not afraid at all to bluff big etc. I succeeded for 5 yrs until i lost it all. I feel i can make it as a pro playing live where the games are good and there are almost no pros.
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02-14-2010 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Adaptation
Ball till you fall.

Pics of your fat ass? or your ballerness.
Haha I tried to make it sound degen but im not that fat anymore. Im about 165 pounds and 5'8. I know i wouldnt be that baller in vegas but where i live, I always played the biggest games and i bought in enough to cover everyone in PLO where we have no max buy in, like 5k, then if someone bought in 10, i bought in 20 etc
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02-14-2010 , 02:03 PM
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02-14-2010 , 03:12 PM
i have a group of friends who i used to play friendly poker with at someones house late night. they dabbled in online but were never real grinders. they probably just played pretty nitty while one tabling on one buyin bankrolls. id hear how they put on 100$ then always up to 10 or 20 k, then they are playing 10k or 20knl.

so the best story was from 2 summers ago when one of the guys ask me how pokers going during a softball game we were playing. i say eh ok how about you. you been playing any?

him "yeah ive been doing well until recently"
me "very nice"
him "yeah i was up to like 20k, but then i ran pretty bad"
me "ohhh really"
him "yeah i was playing some fishy guy who was a huge maniac at 50/100 on full tilt. the guy was terrible but he kept raising all the time and reraising me and he would just get so lucky"
me "ohh really that sucks, who was it"
him "i dont really rememeber his name........ i think it was something like meuukemuhhhhh"
me " ::long pause where i stare at him with disbelief and how much of an idiot he is:: do you mean muckemsayuhhhh"
him "yeah yeah yeah thats him, that guys ****ing terrible"
me "thats one of the top HUNL players online"
him "oh, well he sucks"
me "gg"
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02-14-2010 , 03:34 PM
no more DREAM777 pollution in this thread (about baller, skillz, etc) please.

no offense intended, just need more OT posts since they obv rule.
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02-14-2010 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
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i mis spoke, i dont know them all obv
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02-15-2010 , 12:29 AM
just lost $500 betting the nba all star game... who the **** takes the under in an NBA all star game...
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02-15-2010 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by takemychai
just lost $500 betting the nba all star game... who the **** takes the under in an NBA all star game...
Haha I bet 10k on the Under in the NHL allstar game last year. Not kidding. Tonight i had Under 17.5 3-pointers made. Luckily I cashed this one.
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02-15-2010 , 01:23 AM


half day of school, .50/1 live. buy in for 100 bust it. buy in for another 100 bust it. got nothing to gamble with so i give friend shirt and sweatshirt for 30 bucks...get back to 300 but dont buy back my clothes rather have the moniezzz
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02-15-2010 , 05:36 PM
started with 50$ on party poker, played 1.5 year and reached NL400. Had 13k BR and wanted to cash out the first time next week, wasnt even sure if this works with my MB account i made but then i did the worst thing ever. First i lost over 4k at nl400/600 in 3 hours. Had a really bad feeling and wanted my money back. So my friend told me i should play BJ. I still hate him that he told me that ****ing son of a bitch. I started with 50$ bets then 100$ bet and when i felt good about the next cards i bet 500$. After 1 Hour i was over 5k up and felt really happy. I told my friend i play till i got 15k Br then i stop and we go make party. Obviously it went down down down till i was at 7k Br. Then i played Highstakes BJ with 1k bet. I didnt realize how much money that is for me cause i didnt hold it in my hands. I obviously lost there again and i stopped when i had a 500$ Br. 3 days later i tried to cashout first time to look if it works. I cashed out 50$ and it worked. I realized then i could have now over 10k $ in my hands if i didnt played BJ. But that wasnt all had my birthday next week and drund alot still thinking about my money i lost and did get the stupid idea to break in the school. Destroyed the window and obvious every door was locked so i get angry and wrote with a fat black pen some **** like ''****ing ******s'' and so on the wall. Next day my mother wake me up and tell me the police is on the phone. They told me they found my wallet in the school. I felt like the biggest idiot ever. At evening it was on news in tv and i watched it with my friends. Yeah they laughed their ass off. I live in a small village and after a week nearly everyone knew it. The whole ****ing village still hates me. Had to pay over 7k for cleaning wall, window and so. That was story about me i think im one of the biggest ******s ever.
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02-15-2010 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ploking
started with 50$ on party poker, played 1.5 year and reached NL400. Had 13k BR and wanted to cash out the first time next week, wasnt even sure if this works with my MB account i made but then i did the worst thing ever. First i lost over 4k at nl400/600 in 3 hours. Had a really bad feeling and wanted my money back. So my friend told me i should play BJ. I still hate him that he told me that ****ing son of a bitch. I started with 50$ bets then 100$ bet and when i felt good about the next cards i bet 500$. After 1 Hour i was over 5k up and felt really happy. I told my friend i play till i got 15k Br then i stop and we go make party. Obviously it went down down down till i was at 7k Br. Then i played Highstakes BJ with 1k bet. I didnt realize how much money that is for me cause i didnt hold it in my hands. I obviously lost there again and i stopped when i had a 500$ Br. 3 days later i tried to cashout first time to look if it works. I cashed out 50$ and it worked. I realized then i could have now over 10k $ in my hands if i didnt played BJ. But that wasnt all had my birthday next week and drund alot still thinking about my money i lost and did get the stupid idea to break in the school. Destroyed the window and obvious every door was locked so i get angry and wrote with a fat black pen some **** like ''****ing ******s'' and so on the wall. Next day my mother wake me up and tell me the police is on the phone. They told me they found my wallet in the school. I felt like the biggest idiot ever. At evening it was on news in tv and i watched it with my friends. Yeah they laughed their ass off. I live in a small village and after a week nearly everyone knew it. The whole ****ing village still hates me. Had to pay over 7k for cleaning wall, window and so. That was story about me i think im one of the biggest ******s ever.
just wow.
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02-15-2010 , 07:53 PM
this thread makes me love my life !!!!!!!! but i feel for you degens
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02-15-2010 , 07:58 PM
This thread just prooves my theory that the most important skill in poker is easily bankroll management.
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02-15-2010 , 09:34 PM
Game selection is more important imo. Bankroll nits never make as much as they could.
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02-15-2010 , 10:15 PM
br mgt (which is basically just a part of the MENTAL aspect of poker) is def the most important factor. hopefully no long arguments tho, and more good stories. the last one was pretty quality.
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02-16-2010 , 12:55 PM
Went to a pub with a mate who is a borderline alcoholic 19 year old student for a few quiet drinks, which inevitably turns into a large drinking session.

He has seen the fruits of my poker success(which is very limited btw) and drunkenly decided he wants to go to the casino (for the first time ever) to crush the live donks and make the EZ money. (He has only ever played $20AUD home game SNG's and Facebook Poker)

After donking off 5 BI's ($200AUD each) at 2/3 NLHE, he eradicates the rest of his entire bank account on BJ.

He then pulls out his GF's debit card, and proceeds to lose her entire bank account ($1.5k) playing Casino War.

He plans to tell his gf/family that he was mugged whilst drunk. LOL

He then asked me for money, I said no, I feel guilty but i have a feeling this will be used to get the money back and eventually lost.

Another degen is born.

Last edited by shuvflopwithnuts; 02-16-2010 at 01:02 PM.
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02-16-2010 , 01:07 PM
^

Hahaha!
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02-16-2010 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PonderPedro
Hey BBV


EDIT: just realized this is damn long post, sorry about that. wanted to get it off my chest

I'm kinda new here, I'm a normal nit who plays rather low stakes and grinds some money quietly.

So I'm 24 years old and I've been playing poker semi-professionally for ~2 years now. I dont have a tendency to blow my roll in one sitting, and that is what makes this night so strange in my mind. I dont act like this, never before.. Hopefully never will anymore. Anyway Poker has been the only income for me for the last 2 years.

So I am drinking with my buddies and I had a very good month in poker. I have a habit of withdrawing some money in the beginning of every month depending on how much I have won.. So I have $10,400 on my poker accounts (on 3 different rooms), and I havent withdrawn anything yet. I decide to play some and also bet on some sports just to have the sweat. I bet some random soccer in some random league, I dont even remember which anymore and I dont bother to check. So I bet 50 and after 5 mins my bet is screwed since the wrong team scored. Ok, no problem, they have live betting (betfair) and I can take my money back easily. I bet 100€ now and at about 80 minutes my second bet is screwed as well. So I just decide to take my money back and bet 300€ that no goals are scored anymore.. What do you know, at 90 minutes the home team scores and im down 450€, and a bit tilted as well.

We decide to hit the local casino before going to a bar. I take 300 euros with me and sit at a poker table.. I'm feeling anxious and I realize there is no way I can sit at a live poker table and play well. some alcohol in me and slight tilt from betting makes sure I will just try to find a place to shove my chips in and see what happens. I play about 20 mins and leave, with profit of 40€ or whatever. I hit the slots (I almost never play slots) and in 10 mins I'm down like 150€. I still have about 200 left and decide to take it to the blackjack table. I start bettinig 10e and win some, I'm at 350 or so.. then I lose like 7 in a row and tilt, I bet everything I have in 4 different spots. The dealer had J and I have 19,15,16,10. I take one on the 10 and get a 9 so now it's 19 (I dont double since I dont have money left) and dealer hits 20 obviously. total down somewhere around 750€ for the night.

I'm feeling kinda down and my friend is kind enough to buy me 2 drinks to cheer me up and give me words of consolation. I do feel kinda better, It's only money right.. So we go to a bar and drink some more, I'm getting drunk and I am not that interested to try to hit a girl tonight, kinda down and I dont feel like going through the trouble. Just want to get wasted. At some point of the night a decently pretty girl comes to me and starts chatting to me. She says she saw I am down and asks whats wrong. I'm like no problem, I just lost some money today and feel kinda crappy. We get into talking and I end up with my friends and her friends to some afterparty. There is like 15 people total, and I know the girl I was chatting up with and my friends. There is soem dude (I think the owner of the place) playing small stakes poker on his laptop, totally wasted. My friend is like yeah we play poker as well, this dude here is quite a highroller. He is like want to play? I can let you play if you want. So of course I sit in there and open up an account I have about $5000 in and start play NL600 No-limit heads-up.. My normal game is NL100 six max or PLo100 six max. I lose like 4 buy-ins in probabyl less than 15 mins, I cannot tell for sure how long it took. The girl I was chatting up with is somewhere with her friends and I figure I'll find her later, no time now since Im down a lot and super tilted. I jump into NL1k Heads-up and lose it all.. The only hand I can remember is the last hand when I shove it all-in with nut flushdraw on flop against villains 2 pair. I dont hit and I go busto on my account.

I am super tilted but the girl who I was chatting up with comes in there like 5 mins after I lost it all. I've been sitting there with my hand in my head just trying to realize what I just did. She gives me a glass of wine and asks if I want to go somewhere and talk. I'm like whatever yeah lets go. She starts kissing me and I know where this is leading to, but I couldnt care less.. I'm super drunk, and super tilted for losing craploads of money. So the biggest failure of the night is that I cannot get it up, and I storm out of the house embarassed. I call my friends I tell them I'm going home you guys have fun. I go home and open the other account with ~$2000 in there. I play Nl400 PLO and fittingly, lose it all. The next day I wake up the feeling is surreal.. I cannot believe what I have just done, I blew almost $10,000 in one night, which is like 50% of my net worth. And it all started from 50€ bet on soccer for fun. I realize that I have to take a break from poker and get my head together. I do exactly that and take a week off. Now I'm back in the grind with one really sick, stupid, and embarrasing night to remember. I hope I learned something, I dont want to feel the way I did when I woke up ever again. Just awful :S

Beat: Lost 50% of my networth in one night.
Brag: Didnt even try to get a girl, but still got one.
Huge Beat: Cant get it up :S
Brag: still able to play NL100 (yeah, I am a nit)

sick story
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02-16-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shuvflopwithnuts
Went to a pub with a mate who is a borderline alcoholic 19 year old student for a few quiet drinks, which inevitably turns into a large drinking session.

He has seen the fruits of my poker success(which is very limited btw) and drunkenly decided he wants to go to the casino (for the first time ever) to crush the live donks and make the EZ money. (He has only ever played $20AUD home game SNG's and Facebook Poker)

After donking off 5 BI's ($200AUD each) at 2/3 NLHE, he eradicates the rest of his entire bank account on BJ.

He then pulls out his GF's debit card, and proceeds to lose her entire bank account ($1.5k) playing Casino War.

He plans to tell his gf/family that he was mugged whilst drunk. LOL

He then asked me for money, I said no, I feel guilty but i have a feeling this will be used to get the money back and eventually lost.

Another degen is born.
By anychance you from perth?
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02-16-2010 , 02:51 PM
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By anychance you from perth?
Melbourne dude.
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