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05-24-2014 , 01:46 PM
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05-24-2014 , 02:31 PM
Well put Never Was Been, great post.
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05-24-2014 , 02:48 PM
more degen gambling warm!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-24-2014 , 06:45 PM
Thread has been resurrected !!
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05-24-2014 , 08:20 PM
You guys are degens

Last edited by ChrisStunner; 05-24-2014 at 08:35 PM.
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05-24-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Never Was Been
Dear SuperDegen,

I admire the courage it took to write that story. I am a little dismayed at your immaturity regarding the seriousness of the impact this is having not just on yourself, but also your family. But I understand the denial all too well to hold it against you.

You said you wanted advice - Well kid, I'll give you some advice. If you can somehow get your head around this it might just help you:

Any money that you make from poker or any other form of gambling isn't yours - ever - you're just minding it. Minding it for a little while until you inevitably give it back, along with whatever money you have, whatever money you can get, whatever money you can borrow, and whatever money you can steal, especially from the most vulnerable people that love you. That thing inside you is rapacious and ravenous and will never be satisfied until it eventually takes everything from you. And it will succeed. And you'll probably lose your mind. Because you are what the people on here call a degen. This isn't something cool, something to be proud of. This is something that you, as an adult, need to address if you care at all about yourself or your loved ones. It is your responsibility. The seemingly endless supply of love from the people unfortunate enough to be bonded to you by their sense of obligation is too a resource you will one day deplete. You'll place them in a position where they'll have no choice.

Make no mistake, you are suffering from a profound illness, and this absolutely will not get any better until you can face, understand, and accept it. In your misguided attempt to purge yourself by posting here, what you're really doing is inadvertently glorifying your heinous legacy of gambling addiction and inviting people to cast judgement and to bask in your suffering and misfortune, neither of which will help you. If you want to see the consequences of this pathological denial at a deeper level, feel free to find my thread from a few years back. That will be you dude. You're like me; you're searching for hope, you just don't think it exists yet. So, knowing no better course of action to take, you post here. And there's nothing wrong with that, writing can certainly be therapeutic. But writing about it will not solve your problem. At best you're allowing people, not unlike myself, who's current situations pale in comparison to stop and gawk at someone who is worse off in order to feel a little better about their imperfect, yet generally tolerable existence (and I'll be honest; that's why I came here). And I'm sure everyone appreciates that brief feeling of "maybe they're really not so bad after all" that you give them, but perhaps you'd be better off giving some other poor fellow that honour.

Look back at the history of your plunge into gambling addiction and observe the progressive nature of your decline. You know where this is headed. American jails are the worst place on Earth - do you really think you've got what it takes to cut it inside? Are you of sufficient stature to handle yourself day in day out? Do you fancy your chances against a violent male population who will take turns at victimizing you? Somehow I don't think this is so, nor do I think you deserve such an ordeal. Regardless, it's where guys like you all too often sadly end up.

The reason I am making the effort and going to the trouble of painstakingly constructing this response to you on my tiny iPhone keypad is this: I've been where you're at. I know that insanity. I've gambled away far more than you and I've done it without the love, the support, or the safety net of a loving family to cushion my falls. I've lived in the darkness and faced the prospect of suicide more times than I can remember, and I'm alive today to tell the tale not because I conjured enough willpower or formulated some magical plan but because a lot of people out of a goodness I was surprised to find existed were kind enough to give of their time and to undertake the seemingly futile task of trying to help me, a hopeless degen that clung to his nefarious ideas. Because of those people I'm a free man today. I no longer have to experience the shame, humiliation, bewilderment, and terror. I no longer have to live that nightmare of going back again and again like a moth to a flame. I owe a great debt to those people, and I know I can never pay it back, so I pay it forward.

If any of what I've written resonates with you and you'd like my help, PM me and I'll tell you what to do in order to get free of it. And it doesn't involve sucking dick or finding Jesus. If not, I hope someone else reading this gets something out of it. Either way I've done my part and will sleep well tonight. I wish you all the best.

Thank you for your well detailed response. I'm surprised when you said that I do not belong in jail because I think I definitely do. I will be contacting you soon.
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05-24-2014 , 09:19 PM
Never was been great post, I agree with 99% of what you said but I'm just curious about one thing. Why do you think he doesn't deserve to do time? He clearly is never going to learn anything with the way his family enables him, and I'm pretty sure robbing your mentor for $7k should have some type of consequence.
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05-24-2014 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperDegen
Thank you for your well detailed response. I'm surprised when you said that I do not belong in jail because I think I definitely do. I will be contacting you soon.
I'm rooting for you bro!
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05-24-2014 , 11:10 PM
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I'm rooting for you bro!
Thanks dude. Haven't been to the casino in a week. My parents still treat me as if nothing happened.
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05-25-2014 , 03:42 AM
Was a grand up at the end of the night. Spent it all and more on a hooker. It was a good night.
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05-25-2014 , 06:59 AM
Lol, deposited $27 yesterday. Ended up splitting the 16.50 zoom 4k gtd 3way for $734.

Drank a full bottle of wine and started grinding again in the evening. Today, I'm broke.

I played alot of MTT's/SNG's and PLO25/PLO50 zoom.

4/77 in a 3.30 2k gtd though, my last hope.
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05-25-2014 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GoogledYou
Lol, deposited $27 yesterday. Ended up splitting the 16.50 zoom 4k gtd 3way for $734.

Drank a full bottle of wine and started grinding again in the evening. Today, I'm broke.

I played alot of MTT's/SNG's and PLO25/PLO50 zoom.

4/77 in a 3.30 2k gtd though, my last hope.
EDIT: Failed all the MTT's. I did ship a $215 sunday mill ticket via a $2.22+R sat.

So I'm basicly gonna try to play all this tonight and hope for the best. If I lose, I'm broke which I couldn't care less about. Don't need the money IRL luckily.

Here's my gameplan :P

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05-25-2014 , 02:13 PM
I actually dont think SuperDegen has a gambling problem, he's just immature. He's 19 (or is he 20 now by the time of this?). Point is for all the mistakes he has made, he has never had to pay for any of them. His parents/friends keep bailing him out. I mean sure the quality of his life has suffered some, having to crash on peoples couches, sleep in his car, have no transportation at all, no education, etc. But the real consequences, like jail time or a beat down never happened. He keeps degening because he keeps getting away with it.

I blame his parents. I keep seeing one recurring theme in their dilemma, and that is "we dont know what to do with him". If they dont know what to do then they obviously suck at parenting. In fact they're so worried about their precious snowflake that they wont even punish him or talk to him about it. They just let it slide and remind him of how much they love him. They are enablers. On top of that they dont even learn from their own mistakes. Who the hell keeps 3 grand in their sock drawer? Are these the same people who pay for their groceries with a check? I mean if you're determined to keep wads of cash in your house because you dont understand how a bank works, then at least hide it in a new place once it has been discovered. Christ. Then on top of all of that they still let him manage the flower shop or whatever business they own.

SuperDegen is mentally unfit for adulthood. He is a child. He needs to be taken care of like a child for now. His parents need to monitor his every moment, follow him like a hawk, have him check in/out, trace his movements via GPS on a cellphone, set conditions for which he is allowed to commute places by enforcing him to check in, etc. They need to take a more active role in his life basically. It sounds like they just kinda winged this whole child rearing thing and it seemed like he was on track going to college and all, but that was just luck. Now that real life challenges have entered the fray he is not equipped to handle them.

His parents need to treat him like he's on parole until he establishes responsible habits and gets used to the daily grind of life and forgets this whole poker thing for a few good years. Then in due time once he knows what it feels like to take care of your own finances and the rewarding feeling of providing for yourself, he will probably not degen his money away at poker. He is still entitled to play, he'll just know his limits.
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05-25-2014 , 05:06 PM
In fact, I feel SuperDegen should become a professional thief/hustler of some sort. The kid has gone through practically close to $40k or something. Imagine if all the money you stole or never paid back was just put into a bank account. Screw poker, acquire currency bud. You'd make more money just being a scumbag.
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05-25-2014 , 05:24 PM
OP has been inactive since January 2012.

Wonder if he got in some ****.
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05-26-2014 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by javi
I actually dont think SuperDegen has a gambling problem, he's just immature. He's 19 (or is he 20 now by the time of this?). Point is for all the mistakes he has made, he has never had to pay for any of them. His parents/friends keep bailing him out. I mean sure the quality of his life has suffered some, having to crash on peoples couches, sleep in his car, have no transportation at all, no education, etc. But the real consequences, like jail time or a beat down never happened. He keeps degening because he keeps getting away with it.

I blame his parents. I keep seeing one recurring theme in their dilemma, and that is "we dont know what to do with him". If they dont know what to do then they obviously suck at parenting. In fact they're so worried about their precious snowflake that they wont even punish him or talk to him about it. They just let it slide and remind him of how much they love him. They are enablers. On top of that they dont even learn from their own mistakes. Who the hell keeps 3 grand in their sock drawer? Are these the same people who pay for their groceries with a check? I mean if you're determined to keep wads of cash in your house because you dont understand how a bank works, then at least hide it in a new place once it has been discovered. Christ. Then on top of all of that they still let him manage the flower shop or whatever business they own.

SuperDegen is mentally unfit for adulthood. He is a child. He needs to be taken care of like a child for now. His parents need to monitor his every moment, follow him like a hawk, have him check in/out, trace his movements via GPS on a cellphone, set conditions for which he is allowed to commute places by enforcing him to check in, etc. They need to take a more active role in his life basically. It sounds like they just kinda winged this whole child rearing thing and it seemed like he was on track going to college and all, but that was just luck. Now that real life challenges have entered the fray he is not equipped to handle them.

His parents need to treat him like he's on parole until he establishes responsible habits and gets used to the daily grind of life and forgets this whole poker thing for a few good years. Then in due time once he knows what it feels like to take care of your own finances and the rewarding feeling of providing for yourself, he will probably not degen his money away at poker. He is still entitled to play, he'll just know his limits.
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Originally Posted by javi
In fact, I feel SuperDegen should become a professional thief/hustler of some sort. The kid has gone through practically close to $40k or something. Imagine if all the money you stole or never paid back was just put into a bank account. Screw poker, acquire currency bud. You'd make more money just being a scumbag.
Yes you are correct. I do admit this is all my fault obviously, but if I was raised better, I would mostly not do any of this degening stuff. You are right about me making tons of money being a scumbag but those opportunities are long gone now. hopefully everything works out for me, I did the wwrong thing and it was my own decision, but because of the way I was raised.

Thanks for saying im still entitled to play poker, I also lost all the money because I had no respect for money, I would play so horribly and not even care.
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05-26-2014 , 02:31 PM
Theres little things that just tilt me so easily. Like when im playing and them my little sister text me asking for a ride while im stuck a couple hundred, realizing I only have a few more minutes to play, instead of getting up and picking up my sister, I have to ship all the money I have on me first which is normally over a grand. Damn my sister tilts me so much when she asks for rides. I dont think I wouldve shipped the $12000 if it werent for her. I play good then go on hyper turbo super monkey tilt, going all in every hand
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05-26-2014 , 02:45 PM
It's not your sister's fault
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05-26-2014 , 05:14 PM
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I dont think I wouldve shipped the $12000 if it werent for her. I play good then go on hyper turbo super monkey tilt, going all in every hand
"Sorry sis, but I am in the middle of something that is much more important than being your taxi. Befriend a guy and trade 'something' for a ride. I know you have it in you. Just this once."

Boom. $12k saved. But you didn't choose that route.
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05-26-2014 , 06:36 PM
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I also lost all the money because I had no respect for money, I would play so horribly and not even care.
Why should you? You've got like a scratch off lotto ticket that keeps on paying. If I could walk into my parents room and steal 3k without any consequences then I'd do it too. (Ok I wouldnt because I would feel bad, but I'm saying if I had no emotion then why not).

The thing is you have degened so hard you're to the point that if your parents completely cut you off you're going to end up homeless or something. A few years ago you could have tolerable punishments like being grounded or something, where you at least still had food and a roof over your head. But at this point you're going to have to do some major suffering before you snap out of degen mode. I fear for you man, that is unless your parents are totally cool picking up the tab for your mistakes. You sound like a lost cause at this point so I really hope they just protect you and let you lead this unrealistic life where you at least dont end up dead.
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05-29-2014 , 03:52 PM
Oh Degens... Where are you?...
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05-29-2014 , 06:49 PM
VEGAS MARCH 2014

Took a six day trip with 3 friends for March madness this year. I brought 6k and gave myself a 1k per day limit.

We arrive around 3pm Wednesday and after checking in to the Monte Carlo, pealing off 1k from my roll and putting the rest in the room safe we head straight to the sportsbook to get the betting lines for tomorrow's opening round games. We grab some info and take it over to the pub to look over dinner. We all order some food and slam as many beers as we can until we need a change of scenery.

We decide to take a walk down to Planet Hollywood and we find a couple open seats at the Miss stud table and order a beer from the lingerie wearing waitress. I run through $200 and a couple beers in like 30mins without ever winning a single hand. Normally I do well at Miss stud, but not at this table so it was time for a new game.

My buddies head back to the MC, but I get distracted by the craps table and tell them I'll catch up with them later. I buy in for $200, order another Miller Lite and soon find myself heading to the cage to cash in the $100 in chips I have left. I decide I should meet back up with my friends so I head back over to the MC already down $300.

The scenic route sounds good so I stroll through the Bellagio and take the tram over to the MC. I find my friends all sitting at different tables in the pit and none of them have an open seat, so I find one at the stupid Carribean Stud table. I buy in for another $200 and it's gone before I know it along with my beer. Ok this game is stupid let's go to blackjack. After losing $100 at $15 min bj table and drinking more beer, I decide enough of this bs let's go play what we really came here for....Poker!

One of my buddies wants to play too so we find the poker room and as luck would have it there are two open seats at 1/3nl. They take us to our seats and ask how much we want to buy in for. I buy in for the max which is $300 order another beer and get to work. I am having a blast trying to tilt the regs at the table by straddling, 3 betting, showing bluffs and all around playing like an idiot because I am hammered drunk at this point. I lose a stack of red pretty quickly playing like this so I reach into my pocket and add my last $100 bill to my stack. After I donk off a few more pots I realize that I might need to rebuy at some point, but I have already used my $1000 for the day. So I eventually go busto and head to bed for the night since I reached my 1k per day limit. LMAO, YEAH RIGHT! When my stack is sitting at about $150 I take a "bathroom" break and run up to my room to quickly grab another 1k from the safe. When I go bust instead of rebuying like I planned, I come up with a better idea. I think the best and fastest way to get back the 1k I'm stuck is not through 1/3nl, but at $100 min blackjack!

I say goodbye to the poker table and stumble my way over to the high limit room. At this point I'm like 20 beers deep and on the brink blacking out. The room is empty. There are only two tables with dealers at them, one bj and one baccarat, and both are empty. Alright cool me against the dealer. I sit down at the bj table and slap down the 1k. The dealer gives me a measly 10 chips lol! I lose them in less than one shoe. Great now I'm down 2k on night 1 and have less than 1k per day now for the rest of the trip. Its alright I have 4k left for 5 more nights in Vegas I'll be fine. At this point it's like 4 a.m. and all my buddies have went to bed a couple hours ago. So, I look at the pit boss and say "don't close down this table for the night, I'm going to run up to my room, grab some cash and be right back." The pit boss nods and is probably thinking "what an idiot."

I try not to wake up my Vegas roommate as I grab the remainder of my roll and head back downstairs to show that bj dealer who's boss. The table is still empty when I return, so I take the same seat and buy in for my remaining 4k. I haven't quit drinking this entire time and the rest of the night is pretty blurry and I don't remember much other than I continued to take a beating at bj for awhile. I ended up leaving the high limit room with chips and sitting at a $25 min bj table about 10ft outside the high limit room lol I didn't make it very far. I continue to bet black chips until my friend taps on my shoulder and tells me it's time to give up and come to bed. He woke up, saw it was the next morning and that I hadn't been to bed yet, so came looking for me because he knows about my degen tendencies. It takes him a few hands to convince, but eventually he drags my drunkass upstairs and I pass out in bed.

When I wake up later that day I count my remaining chips and they add up to $2,300. I degened away over half my trip bank roll on the 1st night! The rest of the trip I was able to keep my inner degen beast at bay and only played poker and bet on the basketball games. I also used that money for all my other expenses on the trip and still made it back home with 2k. I was extremely happy with that result after what happened on the first night.

I just typed this thing out on my phone so I apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors.
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05-29-2014 , 08:51 PM
Who knows if your friend never found you might have finally hit that heater and left with 10k..

Lol I bet you thanked him for saving you some cash for the trip.

Nice story mark
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05-29-2014 , 10:20 PM
John Daly lost $55 million gambling

http://msn.foxsports.com/buzzer/stor...ambling-052914

When asked how something like that could happen, Daly offered a simple, one-word answer: "stupidity."
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05-30-2014 , 11:13 AM
I just saw Owning Mahowny.

Made me want to gamble.
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