[X] Thread of the millenium

Ive been lurking on 2+2 for about a year, I figured my first post might as well by my tale of degenracy, hell maybe I can get it out of my system... Anyway Very TL;DR

My Timeline of Degeneracy

Dec 2006: Started playing Poker, just on PKR and for fun.

June 2007: I had been playing on and off for a while with moderate success, figured I was a pretty good player and having Harrington on Holdem probably puts me ahead of most of the fish right (I havnt finished that book to this day)

Through reading about peoples success online I figured poker could be something Id like to do full time. I had a stable job but had planned to leave it to travel in 2009. I figured if I could learn how to beat the game before I left id be set. One drunken night I decided to smash my shoulder to get a week paid leave off work. Friends loaded me up on Tequila, I smashed it into a wall, it dislocated nicely. One week of sick pay + grind is a fair trade in exchange for two hours of immense pain and 8 weeks of rehab right.. Sounded good at the time.

Week Results
I made $400 or so, in a donkament and $120 at 25NL. Holla.
It was the third time I had dislocated it since my Rugby days so I opted to have surgery the following year so I could get a month of grind.

May 2008: Planned surgery for May 2008, Organised Accident compensation from the government for 6 weeks pay at 80% my wage. Convinced my boss that shoulder surgery was very painful and I wasnt able to work for 6 weeks (desk job, couldve been back in 2 days) and even convinced him that he should pay the remaining 20% of my wage.

Results from 6 weeks:
Boss pays me 3 weeks full pay and 3 weeks 20%.
Receive 8 weeks compo
breakeven for the 6 weeks (Super Weak Fish at the time)
Learn nothing about the game
Got drunk every third night
Got a DUI

Feb 2009: I travel overseas with my girlfriend, find a good place with a decent internet connection and start grinding about 2 weeks in. By this time I am a much better player, studied some DC vids, had one coaching session. but still full of leaks. I start back with grinding 25nl but get sick of making money so slowly so I take a shot at 100NL with a $600 roll, make $1100 in two days, think im a god and slowly dwindle it down to nothing over a period of three weeks

March 2009: I am up about $1200 overall since travelling, I cashed out $700 to pay a credit card bill but Ive been playing well and running well, so I decide to take a shot at every major donkament I can.



April 2009: Decided I enjoy playing HU Cash games, Studied Prinnyraiding and Dogisheadsup vids and decided Ill give it a shot. Put $200 onto PKR as I figure the HU players are weak. Have a 1K day playing 50 and 100NL.

The following day, get sucked into a PKR casino game Bust full $1200 playing casino holdem (Rigged) Deposit another $1000 and lose that aswell. Looking back I hit 2 4-of-a-kinds for $700 each one. Still one hour later BR = Zero....

Thats when I contacted PKR staff to vent my frustrations, Monetary and Sexual...

By now my travel funds have dwindled to nothing, I dont have enough for a ticket home let alone enough to take another shot just ONE TIME!!.

I figure the only way to get some money is if my bags are "stolen" and I can claim on my Travel Insurance.

May 2009: After a month of paperwork, emails and policework. My Insurance arrives into my account. As a celebration I deposit $600 into Stars to grind 25nl.
This lasts all of one hour and I put it into a 600NL HU match to double it, I play meakly for 23 hands.

Untill this hand occurs...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer
($654)
Hero ($544)

Dealt to Hero JK

Hero raises to $18, Villan raises to $60, Hero calls $42,

FLOP ($120) 6KQ

Villan bets $95, Hero calls $95,

TURN ($310) 6KQ9

check, Hero bets $260, Villan raises to $499 (AI), Hero calls $129 (AI),

RIVER ($1,088) 6KQ93





Through tilt and madness Eventually my BR ends up...



As of today: After a month of partying and travelling around I am now at the point where I dont have enough money for both my girlfriend and myself to get home again. The whole idea to come to this country was to become a good player (as the cost of living is small) and so far ive gone in the opposite direction. Now in order to get my poker "Career" back on track, im sending her home (she understands and trusts me), locking myself in my hotel and starting anew. Ill be grinding my ass off being fully rolled for 10NL this time. Learning from my mistakes isnt an option, its a must. If I dont make it, I dont know what im gonna do.

Well writing all this is kinda like therapy, I didnt realise how much of a degen I was untill it was all typed out in front of me. I know now Lack of Paitence and persistence is my biggestleak. But anyway I know what I must do, and I know this site is gonna help, ill just keep grind on my mind and keep my tilt in check.

Anyway ill think be around alot more from now on...

^^^^^^ epic

yep... that was a good one.

please keep us updated on your progress.... as i think this is the first "degen in progress" post we've had in this thread. all the other stories just end... but hopefully you'll keep us updated on your degeneration as you grind it out with no money in what i can assume to be a 3rd world country. btw, i hope you know it's not easy to make a living from playing online poker... and most people would not be able to do it no matter how hard they tried.

thread of the year!

What a thread for a first post!!

Well basically what happened is built a roll up from $200 to $2k in a matter of 2 weeks,taking ridiculous shots at NL200 Took me around 4 buy ins to hit the golden patch of greatness or basically running like Jesus!!
So anyway...I start recieving beats and find my self on the 5/10 table..Get all my remaining roll in on the flop with two pair..he hits higher two pair on the river..I proceed to grab my mouse and also my netgear wireless dongle thingy piece of turd and launch the ****** out my bedroom window and down the garden...Not content with this,I decide to take it outside and have it out with Mr Mouse and Netgear dongle....Smashed and bent the fcuk out of em....Im not as bad these day's but tilt is a habit worse than smoking.

Captain Crank, you are the winnar

moarrrrrrr

well if i had pics i would post them considering it was 1999, cell phones wernt rampant, especailly phones with cameras, and regretfully i didnt carry around a camera.
but unfourtunatly this DID happen.

"techically Sanmanuel is in Highland" i am aware of this, i simply stated that I WAS living In San Berdo at the time......

Captain Crank,

That CS chat transcript was hilarious.

Crank, I've never laughed so hard at a 2+2 post. Nh

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[x] How is this thread not a sticky by now?

spring break last year, a few of us head to vegas, mostly to party and try to hook up with slutty chicks. im the only one who wants to spend more than an hour gambling. first night my buddies all go clubbing, i go play poker at one of the smaller gimmicky casinos. i think it was at a pirate one or some european themed one. im already sauced up on coke and rums.

i was running hot and flopping the nuts every hand. i cash out 3k after buying in for $400. i think it was a 1/2 table, kinda fuzzy cuz i was plastered. i wander down the strip trying to find my friends and end up at a bar sitting next to a pornstar i beat off to multiple times. the dvd i had of her was a little old i guess or the constant **** and coke were aging her cuz she look kinda worn but whatevah. we start chatting and she starts rubbing my **** and telling me all the nasty **** she wants to show me. we get to her room, and its like a swtich goes off and she's all business now. she names a price. 1k. i whip out my roll of 100's i just won at the tables and cut out 1k. we start doing the deed and i nut in about 2.5 minutes. i ask her if thats all i get, and she says she'll take a shower with me. only she says she wants to call her girlfriend to come over cuz im too much stud for her to handle by herself, and to start the shower without her. i get in the shower, after a couple minutes i hear her walk out and figure she went to meet her friend. i wait in the shower for about 45 minutes before my skin starts to wrinkle up so i just had back into the bedroom. i turn on the tv and try to find a porn with her in it so i can set the ambiance of this awesome threesome im about to have. after an hour or so i pass out.

i wake up the next morning and check my pants pockets, my 3k is gone. i feel something inside me rip away and i get this empty feeling inside. a combination of getting ripped off and losing 3k, but im determined to make it back so i head back to the same casino to play more poker, still in the same clothes, but extra extra clean from my shower. i turn my cell off cuz my friends keep calling me. my stack is like a yo yo for about 36 hours, never rising above 5-$600 and i've busted and rebought about 4-5 times. im in for about 2k at a 1/2 table, not alot for some of you, but my entire funds for the vacation and then some. i bust out eventually and have no money to do anything. my friends have to spot me for food, but im too depressed to even go out so i end up just getting drunk in my room for the couple nights before we finally go back home. the sad thing is this trip out of the 4 times ive been has been the best ever.

THAT is how you poast a degen story!

sounds true wow good story!

dam so believable!

Tuesday, February 17, 2009
BEAT: lost a grand and still wearing the same socks for the last 4 days...

...But not the same underwear atleast so that's good, my life isn't completely in the toilet. Anyways it all started what seems like a week ago but was Friday night. I got out of work at CVS around 10:00 and was tired as ****. I went home to nap for a little and then left for Bloomfield. I had $700 to work with so I was feeling pretty confident. I texted Eng "AC?" just to see what he'd say and he replied with "leaving soon." Apparently he was gonna go with Liu and their other friend. So i decided i'd just leave and meet them there and by this point it was like 2am i think. I remember getting to AC in what seemed like no time at all. I was definitely tired from working all day but since i was already there i decided to jump in a 1/2. I sat with $200 and then this hand comes up. There's a raise to $7 and a few callers when the button makes it $14 to go. I looked down at 75s and call the $14 assuming i'll set of a chain reaction of callers. There's 6 or 7 of us to the flop which comes 5 5 7, rainbow. I check and BB who has the whole table covered says "i'm all-in". It goes folds around to me and he's drawing to 2 outs with A7. After that pot i was up to $450ish or so when i pick up KK, 2nd to act. UTG raises to $12 and I decided to just smooth call. Guy to my left makes it $25 to go and the button and original raiser both call. I re-raise to $100 and he pushes all-in after thinking for a little bit for $30 more. I call and he has AK and spikes an A on the turn.
After this hand I was back down to like $350. I think i grinded back up taking down a couple pots here and there since my table was full of idiots. One hand i remember it was a limped pot and i was in the sb with K5. Flop 9 5 4, rainbow. I checked and it went aroudn to the button who bet $5. I call and another player calls too. Turn is a K. I check and it goes to the button who bets $15. I raise it to $40 and he min raises back to $65. I make it $110 on top and he shoves for like $200. river blank and he mucks after seeing my hand.
I forgot the other pots that I won but at about 8am i cashed out for $900, 700 profit. By this time Liu and Eng had been playing short handed at another table. I paid eric back $200 and had about $1200 to work with. I was feeling tired and decided to get a room for us. I drove out to Egg Harbor Township to the Holiday Inn but that was booked so i went next door to the Comfort Inn and got a room for $186.
I got the room but couldn't sleep so I went back to the borgata. At this point Liu and eng had moved to the table that I was at a couple hours before and a seat opened up so i sat down too.
I limped UTG with AQ and smooth called a raise preflop. flop came Q T x with 2 spades, i checked and Liu bet out $40 and someone called so i re-raised all-in for like $160ish. He flopped a set of T's and I quit shortly after down $250 from that session.
After being up for close to 24 hours, and by now it had been 1pm, I passed out till about 7:30pm which is when Eng and Liu got back to the room. Oh yeah, I was actually scheduled to work at 5pm that day but I called the manager at CVS who is a complete goner with 3 kids and told her I wouldn't be coming in. That pissed her off even more and she yelled something at me and hung up. Anyways i could care less because working at CVS is not worth it at all. They run you down like a dog and it's just not for me.
After Liu and Eng got back i took $120 from both of them for the room and headed back out to Borgata with $900. I wasn't in the mood to play 1/2 for some reason because I knew I just didnt have the patience so i sat down at a 2/5 $300, flopped set over set and then just sat on my chips til about 2 or 3am and then went back to the room up $300 from that session. I got a couple more hours of sleep and then got some breakfast at 7am. After eng and liu woke up since they had slept for a good 12-13 hours, they went back to the borgata at around 8:30am. I went back to sleep in the mean time and slept till 2pm and left for Borgata.
By this time it was Sunday afternoon and eng and liu were at the same table that they were at 24 hours earlier. Eng had lost 700 that session and was determined to get it back. When I got to the casino and took a look at his stack I was shocked. He had ran it up to almost $2,000 and was in for only $300. The table had big stacks and was really deep. I couldn't get anything going and then after stacking off to Liu again when he flopped middle set vs my top pair i reloaded for $300 more. I ended up losing like $700 that session, dumped alot to eng and wasn't really playing my best. By now it was around 7:00 and eng left up $2500. I've never heard or seen anything like this before. It was completely insane but he deserved it for the last few sessions at Borgata. He decided to treat us to dinner at the new Japanese restaurant which was really nice. It had a dark and lounge type atmosphere. The sushi wasn't bad either, obviously over-priced but that's expected.
After dinner Liu gambled a little bit more on roullette and texas hold'em bonus and then they left. Eng had spotted me $300 more for 2/5 in which case he'd take 60% of my profits so i now had $800 to work with. I went back to the same table as earlier that day and there were all new faces except for the guy in the suit in the 1 seat and this other guy who was in the 2 seat. Other than that there were all new faces and i took the 4 seat. After taking down a pot against this fat annoying guy who seemed angry to fold to me after i made a raise, we get involved in another pot when i opened utg with QQ. button called who was the fat guy and another guy called so we went 3 way. Flop came 5 4 2, all diamonds. I didn't wanna check to see if i had a diamond since it would give away a piece of information about my hand so after the 1st guy checked i bet $25 and the fat guy min raises to $50. I wasn't sure where i was at but i opted to just smooth call and the turn paired up the 2 which was a great card. I checked to see if i had a diamond and i did not. I checked it to him and then he took a look at his cards again to see if he had a diamond so at this point i really thought i had him. He bets $80 and i shove for $125 more. He calls and i dodge a river and he mucks pocket tens with a diamond. After this hand the table broke and i got moved to another game. I went there with like $400ish after being in for $200. I got involved in a hand with this old korean lady to my right when i made it $12 to go with AQd, we went heads up and i had position on her. flop came K T x, 2 spades. she checks to me and i bet out of $15. she just called and turn was the 8s. She checks it to me and i thought about it and then checked. River is a red J giving me a straight and she quickly checks to me. I knew she was a call station and so i bet out $50 on the river. She goes all in for $100 total so i had to look her up and she had the nut flush A4s. That really surprised me since she checked the river. After that pot i cashed out $392 and by now it had been close to 5am and I had been getting tired so I decided i'd get a room somewhere. I went downtown by the Taj and every hotel was booked. I finally found a ****ty motel for $85 and was tired of looking at other places. I had been wearing the same clothes for 2 days now and felt disgusting. I found a ghetto convenience store that had boxers and shirts so i got that along with some toothpaste and a toothbrush.
I got to the motel and passed out til 12:30pm when i woke up to the cleaning lady banging on the door. She gave me some extra time to shower and after getting a turkey and swiss sandwhich at Bread and Butter I sat down at a 1/2 with $200. I was still a little groggy since my sleep schedule for the last couple nights has been really off but whatever. The table i was didn't have any good players and somehow i managed to stack off to this old philipino man who was just ridiculous. Whenever he had a decision he'd get flustered and pretend to fold and at the last second make a raise or call. Anyways things didn't go well here and I knew i needed to play 2/5. I grabbed a seat and bought in for $400. A few hands in i limp utg with AA. Couple more limpers and sb makes it $22 to go. I re-raise to $80 and he calls. Flop comes low and he leads out for $100, i put him all-in for $100 more and he regretfully calls saying Ok, its time to go home you got kings right? River came a K and he mucked after seeing the aces. Then a few hands later i'm in the sb with QTs and it's a limped pot. Flop comes J 9 x, rainbow. 1 spade. i check and utg bets out $30 and 1 guy calls so i call too
turn is a low spade and he bets out $100 this time. We're each about 500 deep and i decide to just smooth call. River is a red 8 and i think for a little bit and make an overbet of $400. He thinks forever, stares me down, tries talking to me and then finally after what seems like 5 minutes and folds. This brought me up to about $800ish and a few hands later i left and cashed out leaving myself with $1080 to work with. I decided to get a room at the Trump Marina for $59+tax came out to like $75. The room was really nice and I slept from like 5pm til midnight and then woke up to Lisa Lampanelli screaming **** on tv and making fun of every race and person on this planet. After watching her special on hbo i went back out to Borgata.

So now the story begins. This is the session that ruined me. It's about 2am when i get to borgata and there's a juicy 1/2 game going on that's playing really loose and has alot of chips on the table. I buy-in for $300. I was good to go and felt like i could take every chip off the table. After a cold deck and getting raised and having to fold a bunch of hands the following hand comes up. We're playing full and i have 2 extremely loose call stations to my left. It's a limped pot and i'm in the BB with T3. flop comes T 6 3, 2 hearts. There's about $12 in the pot and the SB leads out for $20. This was really strange and he had me covered but nonetheless i had ppl behind me and didn't wanna slow play so i raised to $50. Loose D0nk#1 smooth calls and it goes folded around to the sb who calls as well. Turn is a really good card for me, black 9. sb checks and i shove for $155. I originally was confused that donk1 called and put him on a huge combo draw hand like 45h. He takes forever to think about and at this point i wouldn't mind taking a call from him. I'm assuming the sb is gonna fold too. This guy finally calls after playing with 6 green chips and contemplating for a couple minutes and sb calls too. river black 2. For a moment i think i'm good since there's no way 45 was in the hand. Sb checks to the aggro donk who goes all-in for $250 ish and sb mucks AKh face up. Guy shows 4d5h for a straight. I was just completely shocked and couldn't believe what just happened. I reloaded for $300 more.
A couple hands later i get 88 vs the same guy and we're heads up and an A flopped with 2 hearts. He called my flop bet of $50 pretty quickly and so i shoved the turn when a blank hit. He flopped the nuts with 35 and picked me off. After this hand i reloaded $300 more and was down to $200 when this hand comes up.
The 2nd aggro donk is this old indian guy who randomly goes all in blind with his $100 black chip. Everyone just folds around to him and so the next hand I limp utg with JJ assuming he's gonna do it again. He just limps and flop comes 4 4 5, 2 clubs. checked around to me i bet $10 and indian guy raises all in for $101. I think about it for a little and then call, turn 4 and he's drawing dead with 67. The very next hand i'm in the BB with 78h. The indian reloads and now makes it $25 to go. donk1 limped behind him so i knew he was calling and then button and sb calls the $25 too so i couldn't fold now. Donk1 calls too and flop comes 9 9 T, 2 spades. 1 heart. Sb bets out $50 into this pot which isn't enough at all for me to fold so i call. 2 more callers and turn is a Jh. sb bets out $50 again and this time i make it $200. It goes folded around back to him and he thinks for a little and then calls. At this point i was 100% he had a 9 and if i hit a nice river i can get the rest of his chips. I have about $150 left. River is another J and he thinks for a second and then checks, i'm disgusted and flip over my hand knowing he got there and he shows A9. After that hand I lost another pot and left down $800 for that session at 7am.
Went back to my room and passed out til about 1pm. Got woken up by housekeeping and didn't have time to shower. I went downstairs to get some pizza and a side salad at the cafe and then headed back to Borgata. I had $280 to work with and sat at 1/2. Got AA 4 times in like 1.5 hours, each time it held up until the last time when i lost to 99 after he hit the river. This brought me down to a little less than $100. I then got 44 on the button and made it $13 to go. sb calls and i get 1 other caller and flop comes 7 3 2 rainbow. Checked around to me i bet $20, sb calls and i still believe i'm best. turn is a Jd putting 2 diamonds out there. Sb thinks about betting for a little bit and fires out $50. I really didn't put him on a hand here and felt like he might've just been stabbing cause i appeared weak on the flop so as soon as he bet i shoved for like $15 more and he calls with AKd, river K.
After that pot I had $80 left and went back home. The drive really wasn't bad since it gave me time to think and I was sort of relieved to be back home. I'm still wearing the same clothes that i've slept in for the last 2 days which is kinda gross. When i looked in the mirror my own image scared me. I still refuse to give up and will do whatever it takes to get my bankroll going. I gotta call up EP and book as many gigs as possible. I really need to pay back my debt and just get a solid 5k bankroll to work with to atleast be able to take some swings. Tonight however, Steve has agreed to put up $500 more for me to play in Bloomfield in return for 80% of my profits. In a swingy game like Bloomfield 500 can go pretty easily after 2 hands not holding up but i'm determined to give it my all.

i got diamond elite on absolute in 12 hours by playing blackjack finally got it locked though.

lmfao a lot of these stories are good but this one actually made me roll.

true, i misread.... my bad


I get so lifenitty... because I live right on the border (5 min walk to SM), and I HATE when people say I live in San Berdo, and not Highland.

I worked in real estate in NY and know both the landlord and the attorney in that case. The landlord is a scuzzbag and your friend is a tool, so dumb.

lmao at not thinking something is fishy when i pornstar says you're too much of a stud for her to handle.

good read

epic line. lulz were rampant here when I read it.

pretty sick if this is a level