Feel your pain bro... Sick story

Felt depressed after losing 3 times taking shots at some bigger games to a total fish. After reading some story's in this thread i instantly felt much better about my situation. Thx guys i guess.. Hope we all win in the end!

edit: i still feel depressed/angry, its not that much the money its more the fact that i lost to a total fish 3times..

You should begin to play omaha if this was a beat to u

Ty pro_fluffer for brinding back the King even for the few short minutes it took me to reread that legendary post. I say a few minutes because I had to take laugh breaks every 5 words and my stomach hurt at the end from laughing so much.

I agree, that's the best post in 2p2 history AINEC.

Bump wtf i need my dsgen story fix...
Weeks with no degen stories need some good christmas degen stories im sure u guys have them

I created a How to Degen guide earlier

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3517

and thought it was time to include a companion piece

How to Bum Money From Complete Strangers When Busto

Step #1 Identify a mark that seems to be winning You can't ask someone who is stuck $2000 for money

Step #2 Make Eye Contact and find a way to get into their personal space bubble. You need to make your way to the mark and get close to him. Railbirding him at the pit game is the time honored way bums accomplish this.

Step #3 Befriend the mark. The best way is to cheer for him and be on his side. Its you guys against the house, comrades in arms!!! Go team go. Ra-ra-ra....

Step #4 Be as helpful to the mark as possible! If he needs a drink, call for service or the waitress. As the mark is betting point out needless things to seem helpful like "Hey, you also won on that split... dealer don't forget to pay the man.... oh, don't forget that hundred dollar chip to the left of your drink...."

Step #5 Initiate some form of physical contact along with good cheer. When the mark wins, give him a high five if possible, but a gentle pat on the back and "way to go" works as well.

Step #6. Disengage from the mark for a little bit. This gives the appearance that you were actually genuinely just cheering for him and that you are a friendly bystander. However, you keep him in your radar all night.

Step #7. Intercept the mark on his way to the next game or cage. Timing is key, you want to appear like it is just a coincidence

Step #8. Get the mark talking to you while smiling and being super friendly. The best way is to congratulate him on killing the game and then immediately launch into a "don't I know you" conversation where you saw him at another casino or Vegas. Then shift the conversation to where else the mark might play.

Step #9. Launch into your hard luck story. You have a very limited window with the mark as they are already uncomfortable talking to a complete stranger, so you want to shift the conversation to how you were doing great earlier, killing the house for BIG money but then ran into some hard luck and lost all your money. Then couple that to having reached your ATM limit for the day and you left your credit cards at home.

Step #10. Make eye contact and ask for "help". Ask the mark for "help" and then say you just need $20 for gas to get back home and that you drove in from the neighboring city 100-ish miles away. The goal is for the moment to be so uncomfortable for the mark that he just gives you $20 just to get out of the situation. Also, you are his "friend"

success depends on your hard luck story and ability to worm your way into the good graces of your mark. Also, it helps if you don't look like a beggar, be well dressed and appear "normal". The more similarities you share with your mark (age, race, dress, etc) the better your chance of success.

^

That seems like a ridiculous amount of lost dignity for 20$...forget about the amount of mental energy expanded to arrive at that result, energy with which you could've focused 10 times better on the game and increased your EV by a lot more than 20$.

And if you don't think you lose anything by acting that way, I guess you're already at the point where you have no dignity left and would rather spend an insane amount of energy worming your way into peanuts than bettering your skills.

Damn that's one of the most depressing things I've read in a while, and this is BBV we're talking about here...

I know.

Every casino has these people, its so sad. There are people who hang out all day at the casino, scraping together $5, $10, and $20 at a time so they can scrape together enough money to "grind" 2-4 limit poker or blow it all on 5 minutes of blackjack...

its sad
The problem is, most fish consider poker and blackjack equivalent, that is... you have to get "lucky" to win. The thought of actually studying poker just never crosses their fishy little minds because after all, they are "already" experts. They have been gambling for years and know how to win.

THe worst conversation I ever had was with a fish the other day who approached me about going "pro" with 3-6 limit, and Blackjack (which in CA offers the worst odds for blackjack along with a commission you pay for every hand) and Texas Hold-em table games.

I tried to talk to him about bankroll management and variance and how the rake makes it virtually impossible to beat 3-6 limit but he couldn't be dissuaded.

most degen **** i just saw: guy is at the gas station counter buying scratch tickets, not even playing them and just scratching off the barcode to scan them, buys them, scans them right away, loses most, wins some a bit, and keeps doing this until he's busto like wtf hahaha was holding up the line and **** the attendant was rattled

I do the same thing when I buy scratch offs. I can be ****ing bothered to spend 10 minutes scratching off a bingo card and try to figure out if I lost/broke even/won $5

I don't stand there and go through my whole life roll....but I do scratch the bar codes and scan them when I play....It's a timesaver and scratching off the numbers isn't really entertaining to me. I just want to know if I degenned off my $10 or if I just paid for my cigs on the state...lol

yeah thats the obvious reason someone would.. i mean, i get it, but this guy was buying and playing them like the convenience store lotto counter was a ****ing blackjack table haha

but isnt some of the fun in them the suspense in scratching them like how they set u up with only one scratch missing in the row to win the jackpot or whatever.. kinda fun like that imo, just buying them and scratching the barcode gets rid of the only bit of potential fun in them lmao

Aren't scratchies like -60% ROI or some stupid number? I guess that really is degen.

Like all addicts, it stops being fun... Alcoholics don't drink for fun, they drink too be normal...

lotto scratcher addicts don't care about the suspense. F*** that, just scratch and go mofo.....

I thought the same thing and then I went and checked out some common odds on $1 scratchers...



Its more like -85% ROI

To put this in perspective, American roulette (0 and 00) has a ROI of -7.8% and that is one of the worst games in a casino as far as odds...

A few problems with your statements:

1. Not all people who scratch off the bar codes to scan the ticket and see the results are "addicts". I play them occasionally...and of course I am a net loser on scratch offs...everyone except large prize/jackpot winners is. I scan them because I simply want to know what the result is....call it instant gratification...call it whatever....the outcome is established....the "fun" for me is seeing the little screen pop up "$20 winner" or "$50 winner" or "$100 winner"

2. You are pretty far off on your roulette number. Here is an excerpt from wizardofodds:

United States Rules

A U.S. roulette wheel consists of 38 numbered slots:numbers 1 to 36, a zero, and a double zero. The betting layout consists of every individual number as well as a host of "outside" or combinations of numbers. After the players make their bets the dealer spins the wheel and a ball and after several seconds the ball will land in one of the numbered slots.

The following table displays the available bets, the win (on a "to one" basis), and the probability of winning under U.S. rules. All casinos in the U.S. follow these rules except for in Atlantic City. The house edge on all bets is 1/19, or 5.26%, except for one bet. The exception is the 0-00-1-2-3 combination, which carries a house edge of 7.89%.


3. There are many worse bets than roulette in the casino.
Take a look on this page and you will see numerous bets that have a house edge in the range of 10-25%:

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/

I thought I knew a lot about gambling - more than most, but until the last dozen or so posts I had no idea there was a subsection of scratchcard players who just did the barcode to save time.

I play plenty of -EV games but I derive pleasure from every one. I squeeze every brag hand, sweat every roulette spin (unless I'm two-tabling), and bemoan every time a blakjack dealer pulls a five onto their six.

i worked overnight in a grocery store with a lottery machine in it, and my bank (with a 24-hour atm) was 60 yards from the grocery store. obviously this was a recipe for disaster. back in august i asked one of my best friends to bet me $20 that i wouldn't scratch another scratchoff until thanksgiving. i made it, collected the $20, and still haven't purchased/scratched a scratchoff.

More degen details please.

I only play the pokerz with play money on PS (lulz), and I turned into a degen after they added hyperturbos and probably some help from this thread.

I used to play some 6max and 9max donkaments with my 5kk roll. So this one day I'm running uber bad, and I lose ~500k, then stop playing. An hour later the tilt kicks so I go to play some flipaments (my word for hyperturbos) to get back to even. I lose those too.

Then I open my "fix" which is 40kNL Omaha Hi/Lo in 3 tables. The players here are super donks and I run good so I run up to 150k, 300k and 400k (minus some lost buyins) and I'm back to even and then some. But I keep playing and eventually find myself in a 3-way PFAI on the 400k table in a massive 1,5kk chips pot. Of course I lose with the best hand and I'm in the hole again so I go on monkey tilt.

Next thing I know, I've been open shoving for 2 hours (flipping every hand with the donk who got all my chips) and running bad and I have dumped 1,5kk chips in the table. On the other tables I've been playing normal and ran it up to 600k and 300k. Then I get this great idea to open shove the other tables too to get back to even. I hit a heater and run it up to 1,2kk to 600k. Then I dump it all over the course of 3 hours. Total loss: About 3kk play money chips.

Beat: Play money degen
Brag: I didn't degen real money
Beat: I could have sold those chips for real money gamb0ls
Brag: Self excluded myself before I degen real money

bait is bait

Ladies and Gentlemen,

The Erick Lindgren Degen Story!

http://www.bluff.com/magazine/broken...en-story-6094/

he's screwed.

If online poker was as important to him (Lindgren)as he claimes why didnt he move to Canada???

In any event, he needs to run like god this WSOP...

Maybe he can pull himself our of his mess

Lindgren story was extremely interesting.

Also, its incredible that one of our "poker heroes" was already millions in debt as early as 2004.

The worst thing that can happen to a degen is to have a virtual infinite credit line and people willing to take his action.

The moment that happened, he was screwed...

Degen logic: Betting $100 on a single hand of Baccarat to clear a $10 match play slip because

1) I didn't have any smaller bills in my pocket and
2) I knew I would be pissed if I bet less and won because I "could have won more"

Player hit a natural 8 so I lost ldo