fold pre

LOL

I folded everything but aces for at least a year. Still lost

Two Dannys here. One temp-banned which is ****ing hilarious.

What up dannyboy6292,
I play live quite a bit, I’m glad that you have DriveHud. It’s some solid and very useful software.
Playing zoom is a unique beast and honestly, as you know, playing zoom is all about value. The dynamic of playing zoom is very different and the lines people take can be different from classic cash games. Ranges tend to be tighter pre, and people either hit the flop and stay to the river or miss and fold. I would say zoom is the love child of cash games and hyper turbo SNG’S.
Keep this in mind.
You have been dealt Ad,As. This is a very strong holding in zoom pre, and you can generally elect to open raise if you are first into the pot. But when it has been opened and there are some callers I think that 3-betting here isn’t the best option. Like I said above, people in zoom once they are in the pot, they seldom fold to 3-bets and your hand simply doesn’t play well post, unless you hit a set. So your 3-bet is getting called a lot, and your ability to rep hands post flop is a tad bitter harder, due to the fact that people tend to get stickier in zoom settings. Calling in spots like this are best. But that’s the thing. These players are not from EP, and that is key.
I want you too imagine some ranges for both the CO opening and the Button Calling. The CO can be opening wide here, hoping to take the pot down pre. For the Buttons calling range, you can ballpark some basic ranges using the gap concept. In general, the Buttons range here is stronger overall than the CO opening. 66 here is a hand that you can 3-bet given that you are going to take the pot down pre more often than if someone in EP raised. I don’t CO opens as much credit, and the fact that the button didn’t 3-bet means that you are ahead enough to just pop it pre. If you get called by one or both, you can elect to just shut down when you miss the set, and over cards like 10’s-A’s come.
Now imagine some flops that could come out that don’t contain a 6, not giving you a set. Flops with Aces, kings, and queens in them. No use in bluffing here in zoom. Even if you raised pre. I like a 3-bet pre from you, but when you wiff the flop, just check fold. I also don’t mind you calling either hoping to set mine. Either way works.
You call the $6 and see the flop 3d, 6c, kc.
Congrats you hit your set! However, there is a flush draw. The king falls into both the CO and Buttons ranges as well. The CO can have all Kx combos here and club combos. The button has some Kx combos as well, but in general they are going to be stronger than the CO, he has spade combos as well. There isn’t much use in going over every possible combo here, but you want to have a general sense of what hands they can have here.
You elected to check. I don’t mind this. But you should only be checking a board like this to check raise. Remember above when I said people get sticky post flop in zoom? If it checks through, it would be safe to assume that no one had a Kx or club draw, generally people in zoom would bet these. So if it checked through, you would be looking for an ace, queen, or jack to hit so your villains can possibly hit a pair and you could get some value.
However, the CO leads for $14 and the button calls. It’s safe to say someone has a kx or club draw. You have no club blockers as well.
You call the $14 here. Your question here is how you can get more value with this holding when flopping a set. You should be raising here. Kx combos cannot fold here to often to a check raise. So If they do they would be exploited too often in zoom, and like I said people get sticky with top pair and you addressed this in your post. You can value own them for sure. As for the flush draws, you want to be charging them to draw to their flush as well. With sets, this is where you get your “value.” If a flush draw bricks on the river, how are you getting value from a missed FD? If they bluff sure, you can pick them off, but you should be getting value along the way by charging them along the way…
Even if you min raised here I would be ok with it, rather than just calling. You can raise bigger as well but I won’t bog you down with what the “right” check raising size is at this time. This is zoom after all. Some things aren’t dead set standard, and balancing ranges isn’t as important.
You call and see a turn. 8s.
At this point I would elect to lead. You didn’t check raise the flop so now I would lead. I would pick a size that allows TP to call. I’m not worried about if the flush draw calls and gets there, if he does, he does. The times that he doesn’t you have gotten value from TP as well as the flush draw, and when the river bricks the FD, you can still get some value from TP and choose to size down on the river.
You check. The CO leads again for $32, the Button calls, and you raise $145. Believe it or not, as played… now is not the time to raise. The turn is the 8s, what are you repping now? You took a passive line pre and on the flop. No use in “waking Up” now and getting tp with weak kickers/bluffs to fold. Since you took a passive line, the ability of getting value from bluffs and tp weak kicker is more important than getting flushes to fold.
As played at this point I would just call, fade the FD, check the river, and raise jam over whomever bets out. If you are worried that no one is going to bet, you can lead very small in the hopes that someone will simply call with tpwk or jam over the top because you appeared weak leading the river with such a small bet size.
Let me know what you think.

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Its amazing you only average 16 posts a day with posts like this.

Thanks for looking at my profile. I appreciate it. Did you wanna take me out to dinner now you stalking pervert?

Doubt it. He got what he wanted.

Preki legit nut worst poster. Watch out for the cull next year sir

haha i very rarely post in bbv, wouldn't even make the nomination.

I got what I wanted? confused here, what did i want exactly? It just annoys me that people make pointless posts like "vammmoooo" and have 16 posts a day just to get their post count up.

Rapidesh works hard to post nonsensical gibberish strategy 16 times a day. Plus, Vammmmoooo is his catch phrase.

Homie, I don't post to get my post count up. I post because I ****ing feel like it.

And if preki wasn't such a miser he would know that.

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haha okay then, besties?

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oh danny boy , racist

How can Rapide not be banned yet ?

Legend status ldo

Didn't there used to be a thread like that?? Terminated?

Tonight's session B&B:

Brag: Player in total maniacal drunk mode raising every hand in 1-3 NL. I flop a set on him and milk him. He keeps bluffing, I raise his last bet of 225 $60 more. He calls and turns over 2-3 off-suit, no pair, 3- high. He wanted to know what I had, I guess. But he sure did it. Later in hands with me he is constantly saying, "2-3 off-suit again" while he's betting.

Beat: Later in PLO if flop top set on 7-5-4, fire pot 300, one call. Pairs the 4. Check to me. 295 all-in. He calls. River 4. "I have a full-house he says." Wow, you mean I'm good, I didn't take the 1-outer beat? "No I got quads" he now says. He had called his hand without looking at the river, obviously, already thinking he was good I'm sure. Just sick. 1-outer miscall slow roll with me all-in in pretty good $1500 pot. Good night. Thanks for playing.

I wish you were terminated

Wow, the sheer wittiness. Anything less pitifully predictable?

The call with 2-3 unimproved on the river hand is seeming more and more interesting to me. I'm now thinking he called off $84 on the river after his bluff, formerly I was thinking it was $65. Yeah, because it happened so fast I asked the dealer if he put the 84 in. He had instacalled with a black. I heard him say call, but didn't see the black go in.

The dude was obviously a player circa his post hand analysis of what I had done during the hand (deliberate "shaky" calling soliciting more bluffs), and his later employing of it. "Hmm, you played me a bit there," he said. He proved to himself what had happened in the hand with the no-win call to see my cards, calling nearly $100 with THE WORST HAND POSSIBLE. The board is K-8-4-Q-7. I have 4-4. After his river 3rd barrel, he called my last $84 with the only hand, right? that has to play the board. That's a different kind of thing.

Was this the only hand in the world yesterday, or even this year, that the river was called by a hand that was the worst hand possible? Probably not. I guess playing the board is playing the board and it's all the same.