Brutal Beat (First Significant Live Tourney) - Page 2

I was honestly stunned to see the quality of play, at something of a serious set of tournaments with reasonable sized buyins (ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand USD). I had been a bit intimated before going, and had no idea what to expect from the local/serious live asian pros and couple westerners that dragged ass over there. There were a few other truly absurd plays during this, and another event. Honestly the quality of play in these tourneys was comparable (if not worse) to $10 buyin MTTs on stars...

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08-14-2018 , 06:02 PM

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tarheels2222

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10,910

Yup. Tournament variance is the sickest, though.

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08-14-2018 , 06:11 PM

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robert_utk

Not From the UK

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,822

No money in poker. Asian casino tourists solid.

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08-14-2018 , 06:20 PM

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Ryazzz

newbie

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

No money in poker. Asian casino tourists solid.

Actually, most of the asian players (even the ones that were not obvious fish) were bad regs at best. A couple were solid, and the majority of the westerners were also. The poker there is dead for another reason - High stakes Bacaraat has taken over every damn casino there over the past couple years. The poker scene in Macau legit dried up and died almost completely in the span of 2 years (the two right before I got there, unfortunately)!

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08-14-2018 , 06:30 PM

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Colin_Piddle

The Colonial

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 11,808

Players were solid when I went over there OP, maybe you got a soft table. Also they won the monies and you didn't so they must be better then you.

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08-14-2018 , 06:32 PM

#31

Ryazzz

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 22

I'll gladly ride the variance wave, if there is as much dead money in live tournaments as there seems to be!

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08-14-2018 , 06:36 PM

#32

Ryazzz

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle

Players were solid when I went over there OP, maybe you got a soft table. Also they won the monies and you didn't so they must be better then you.

Yeah, not cashing = being outplayed for sure - because we all know tiny sample results are clearly indicative of skill! You did see that hand I busted on, right? There was a lot of that quality of play going on. Donks shoving KQ preflop when 30+ big blinds deep, 5bet shoves with low pocket pairs, saw flops folded on SPR lower than 1.... Which tournaments did you play that were solid in the 2018 APT schedule?

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08-14-2018 , 06:38 PM

#33

Ryazzz

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle

Players were solid when I went over there OP, maybe you got a soft table. Also they won the monies and you didn't so they must be better then you.

If you were over there, and encountered solid play, maybe it was before the mass exodus of solid players over 2016/2017. I can't imagine otherwise. Not only the tourneys I played, (and a couple a friend played that I didn't) but the cash games at the lower ends of limits were also quite bad. Maybe some good players are left at the nosebleeds, but outside of that, the poker there is now super soft.

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08-14-2018 , 07:01 PM

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Ryazzz

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I am hoping the play is similar quality at the other APT stops. I didn't care for Macau, as it was incredibly overpriced and not at all tourist-friendly. Next year I hope to play some events in Vietnam. Depending on how the cash tables are there, I might stick around a couple months.

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08-14-2018 , 08:06 PM

#35

Kelvis

banned

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8,737

I just beat of to your sister OP. It was significant.

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08-15-2018 , 10:37 AM

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herbalerv

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 779

Haven’t read comments yet , only the HH, but surely we can find a fold on the river?

Sometimes KK no good!

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08-15-2018 , 11:07 AM

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MuckPls

old hand

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Just curious OP, what do you think you are beating on the river? Clear fold imo.

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08-15-2018 , 04:54 PM

#38

Trueteller111

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nice, love seeing donks beating kings.

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08-16-2018 , 01:37 PM

#39

Phil Me Up

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08-20-2018 , 10:42 AM

#40

swissodds

adept

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Cant believe no one ever thought you to fold pre.

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08-22-2018 , 06:46 AM

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JoeDiego

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,820

That's a really bad call on the flop after he shoves. His range there is exactly AA, 99, 33, A9, K9, Q9, J9 T9 98, 97, 96, 95, 94, 93, 92 and 43ss.

You are only beating 43ss.

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08-23-2018 , 09:21 AM

#42

Pcallinallin

formerly the original donkey penis

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,035

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Originally Posted by Ryazzz

I assume this is the infamous trolling I've been told is rampant on 2+2?

Yes, and thank you for delivering in the first 10 posts! Im laughing my ass off.

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08-24-2018 , 04:24 PM

#43

NutJob72

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 415

Fold pre. Ap bet/fold river. Asian villians are rarely bluffing rivers. Especially in the APT. Also BRM is key. $%^& you OP.

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08-25-2018 , 07:11 PM

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Breadfish666

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 251

Fold pre. 2nd best hand in the game means it loses to one other hand.

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08-31-2018 , 01:55 AM

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ZeckoRiver

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,590

4high always good to win especially if sooted

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09-03-2018 , 11:51 PM

#46

AlwaysFolding

Urban Pharmer

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 19,980

this thread is a ****ing dumpster fire.

OP why didn't you check/fold river? Clearly a shove is the wrong play.

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09-04-2018 , 01:20 AM

#47

dwb3

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 291

OP dont be results oriented. The 43ss was winning the low end so you were chopping at best.

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09-04-2018 , 09:49 AM

#48

blakeatron

adept

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,173

Grunge: IMO it's a clear fold OTR. It's just not worth the risk when you have kids at home to take spots like this when he could have a tre.

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09-05-2018 , 12:25 AM

#49

micro dong

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 588

even mike mcd wouldn't blow his 15k roll on a pair

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09-05-2018 , 04:05 PM

#50

kidgolfer

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 294

ez fold river

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