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Originally Posted by Niemand
5/10 live, effective stacks somewhere between 2500 and 3000
V open 40 from EP, folds around to H, who makes it 160 with red TT from SB, V calls.
Flop: Ts8c7s
H c-bets, V raises, H 3bets, V all in, H calls
V tables J9cc, H doesn't boat up and looses a pot of ~ 5k-6k
This may or may not qualify as a big loss because I folded preflop, but if I didn't I would be getting it in 80/20 in a huge pot.
Back when the Hard Rock Los Vegas had unlimited buy in and cash played. It was only a $1/$3 game, but it was a crazy game. Everyone was buying and rebuying regularly. At one point I had over $6000 in front of me, all but my original $500 was profit. I had to go, but the game was too good so I stuck around. Since I was considering leaving, I would give chips to other players and take their cash as they rebought. I amassed a lot of cash.
So a hand starts. Blinds in seat 3 and 4. Seat 5 UTG raises a large amount. He has been playing all night with me. I am in seat 9 and look down at pocket kings. Action fold to me and I reraise a ridiculous amount. Say he raised to $30, I reraised to $110. It was that type of game where preflop raises needed to be large to get any respect. Action golds around back to him. He thinks a very long time. He looks at my stack a few times. Finally he goes all in.
He has like $5000 in front of him. I have him covered.
I have been playing with this guy for over 10 hours. While he might not have been the tightest player I have ever played with, he certainly was in the conversation. He was decent enough that I know he wasn't doing this with nothing.
The tightest player at the table just effectively preflop shoved 1700 BB UTG at a $1/$3 game.
I start laughing at myself and try and figure out if I am going to really fold kings preflop. It is such a ridiculous overbet from a tight player UTG that I am pretty sure I have to fold. I think a really long time and try to find any reason to make this call, but I can't.
Finally after a minute or two of tanking, I fold. I show my kings to him face up and say I cannot play them preflop this deepstacked against him. He looks at me befuddled and turns over pocket Jack's. He asks me how I can fold kings preflop for only a couple hundred dollars.
I am confused.
After a few seconds I realize that I had about $250 - $300 in chips in front of me, the rest was cash. I had been buying up so many buy ins (and then running cold for a while) that my stack of chips had dwindled. I had over $5500 in cash but only $300 (or less) in cash. So despite having him covered (at over $5000), he thought I only had a few hundred, so he had shoved thinking only my cash played.
I missed the opportunity to get it in good 80/20 preflop for a 3500 BB pot because I didn't understand that my opponent did not see the large stack of cash I had in front of me.
Maybe I wouldn't have won. Maybe he flops a jack or ends up with a straight. Who knows?
I just know I threw away 2800 BB of equity because I didn't realize my opponent would be clueless.