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07-20-2008 , 01:09 AM
In good fun to get over running colder than hell, I decided to write to FTP, here is what I wrote:

Dear Full Tilt,

I write as an agonized micro NL grinder severely fed up with my doom switch status. I am doing all I can to move up in limits and make myself and ultimately you guys, more money.

Unfortunately, with my strict BR requirements, I am unable to do this because of the position of the "switch." Right now it appears as if you have it set to the "doom" position on my account as I consistently lose 95/5's and 90/10's.

Losing the occasional coin flip is fine with me as that is standard variance, and of course, given that 90/10's and 95/5's do lose 10% and 5% of the time respectively, it is just discouraging when those 10% and 5% occasions occur with me, all the time.

I am not requesting that you move the switch to the boom position, although that would be wonderful, if you could just set it to the neutral position, I believe that I am a good enough player to make money and ultimately move up in stakes.

Thank you so much.

I will be playing throughout the rest of the week to test the new position of the switch. I look forward to the change!

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Here is what I got back, within 5 hours of sending it:

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

As an avid poker player, I certainly understand your frustrations with bad beats and general negative variance. I have myself been through prolonged streaks of both good and bad luck.

Please be assured that our shuffle is random.

Please consider that as well as being technically close to impossible, there is no motivation for a poker site to "rig" the deck in favor or against a specific player. From a business standpoint, it makes sense to keep players happy, and the best way to keep players happy is to provide a legit, fair, and friendly game. This is why site integrity is of paramount importance to us.

I have the feeling that you misunderstand how our business operates. Unlike casino sites, poker sites do not earn revenue when a player loses money. Our income is derived solely from the rake, a small percentage of the pot that is taken from the winner of the hand. Understand that in a very real sense, we have no interest in the outcome of individual hands. Manipulating the dealing of cards does nothing to increase our revenue and everything to minimize it--it would be financial suicide as a business decision to engage in such unethical activity, ruining our reputation. Understand that your losses are not translated into our gains; the player who has won the money from you has gained to be sure, but this is completely unrelated to how our revenue is derived.

Unfortunately in the short-run, variance is such a large factor in poker, and many players will receive more than their expected average of premium hands in terms of card distribution and consequently at times, less than their expected average of premium hands. The same can be said in terms of hitting flops and completing draws or having hands hold up. It is only when dealing with very large numbers that a player's average statistics will approach its expected average. This is where the expression, "professionals play by the month, not by the day" is derived.

Understand that there is no "doom switch" but there certainly is statistical variance. It is only when speaking of tens of thousands of hands that personal statistics begin to approach its theoretical expectation. For players that play this game for a living, it is imperative that they keep a very large bankroll to endure such fluctuation. It is well known that an excellent player that may win from 1 to 2 big bets an hour playing limit can lose 300-500 big bets, and a winning no-limit player can endure a run of 20 or more buy-in losses, again due to variance. In sit and gos, 20 to 30 session droughts in which a player does not cash is not uncommon. These are taken into account, and professionals are very conscientious of when to move down limits to lower their risk of ruination to a reasonable level. Knowledge of these statistics will not make these players immune to bad beats--nobody is--however, they will react better when these inevitable bad runs do occur. Also, these same players are very honest with themselves, analyzing when they are running bad, and when they are playing bad. It is often the level of honesty that separates an excellent player from someone who is merely above average.

I strongly suggest that you visit the poker forums in the link below; it is the largest poker forum that is visited by many poker enthusiasts such as yourself, and is an unbiased third party to our site (and any other poker sites in business). I believe that the voice of the general poker community will be more persuasive in dissuading you of your belief that online poker is rigged.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/index.php

On behalf of Full Tilt Poker, I wish you the best of luck at the tables. Should you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.


Awesome imo.
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07-20-2008 , 01:14 AM
am i missing something or is this not, in fact, awesome
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07-20-2008 , 01:15 AM
no you are missing nothing. Its not awesome.
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07-20-2008 , 01:22 AM
trying to be funny by e-mailing a site about a doomswitch? what is this, 2005?
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07-20-2008 , 02:06 AM
i thought it was kinda funny how in depth the reply was.

EDIT 8D
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07-20-2008 , 02:12 AM
THIS IS ORIGINAL CONTENT. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. AWESOME JOB OP.
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07-20-2008 , 02:21 AM
While the email to FTP is nothing new, the length and in-depth explanation of the reply made me lol, and the fact that they recommend you browse 2+2 is just awesome. NH OP.
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07-20-2008 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambiboi
THIS IS ORIGINAL CONTENT. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. AWESOME JOB OP.
+9000
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07-20-2008 , 02:38 AM
"and the fact that they recommend you browse 2+2 is just awesome"


[ ] awesome

[x] explains where all of these idiots have been coming from lately


Btw,just want to thank OP for the fact that no one can get a reply from FTP because they are busy replying to your idiotic email with a novel cause they honestly think your mentally ******ed.
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07-20-2008 , 02:45 AM
this was my last email to ftp:
Quote:
Subject: you enjoying yourselves?

while you doomswitch innocent people and watch as they **** away their bankroll at your riggedass games. **** you.
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Hello Michael,

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

We will gladly address your concerns without the use of profanity or vulgarity directed at our staff. Please respond to this email in a professional manner, and we will be more than happy to assist you.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Regards,

Tom
Poker Specialist
Full Tilt Poker Support
fwiw he did undoomswitch me
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07-20-2008 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog

[x] explains where all of these idiots have been coming from lately
omg seriously though
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07-20-2008 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambiboi
THIS IS ORIGINAL CONTENT. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. AWESOME JOB OP.
wp
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07-20-2008 , 05:17 AM
send same email to stars support. See what hilarity ensues
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07-20-2008 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jedi
send same email to stars support. See what hilarity ensues
lol I was just going to do this. Though for some reason they like to lock my account anytime I send them a joke/stupid/worthless email
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07-20-2008 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jedi
send same email to stars support. See what hilarity ensues
Stars support is hilarious at times,expect it to be way better than this Ft lawyer -type drivel...
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07-20-2008 , 05:43 AM
I think is pretty awesome that he actually got reply from FTP support within 5 hours.
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07-20-2008 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by knght311

Here is what I got back, within 5 days of sending it:
FYP
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