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07-02-2009 , 06:26 PM
It's obvious that SPEEDLIMITS is guilty. The question now is whether or not he will be a man admit he was wrong and return the money. That would probably close this thread or maybe even get it deleted which could prevent the nasty consequences this will have for him later in life.
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07-02-2009 , 06:38 PM
Speedlimits is putting on a "how not to defend yourself" clinic in this thread. I love the doctored screenshots with the mysterious scrollbar discrepancy. Somehow, I don't think that's going to hold up against pokerbot_v7's full-motion video.

SpaceAce
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07-02-2009 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoskomatic
It's obvious that SPEEDLIMITS is guilty. The question now is whether or not he will be a man admit he was wrong and return the money. That would probably close this thread or maybe even get it deleted which could prevent the nasty consequences this will have for him later in life.
i offered him to get his real name deleted from this thread as soon as he pays me back. his poker reputation is ruined but noone outside of poker will know about this story.

if not, BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com will get launched and everyone that googles his name will find it. i'll keep that homepage online for the rest of my life and make it the #1 hit for every related google search.
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07-02-2009 , 06:46 PM
i like your style, pokerbot

speedlimits, just give the man his f-ing money, youre gonna ruin your reputation over 3k? 3k is nowhere near a life changing amount of money but if you keep this up it could have life changing consequences. would be really dumb to let this continue
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07-02-2009 , 06:47 PM
lol that would be so awesome
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07-02-2009 , 06:50 PM
a reason for all of this bull**** would be very nice.
i mean: "i got drunk, i gambled away all my money an then i got ashamed." that would be a reason. it wouldn't be ok in any way, but it would be a reason.
I don't understand why he doesn't clear things up in any way.
It's ridiculous.
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07-02-2009 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
i offered him to get his real name deleted from this thread as soon as he pays me back. his poker reputation is ruined but noone outside of poker will know about this story.

if not, BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com will get launched and everyone that googles his name will find it. i'll keep that homepage online for the rest of my life and make it the #1 hit for every related google search.
dear god, i can hit F5 after renewing my ip adress faster than i can spam on 2p2.... poor speedlimits!



wtf this piece of **** should ship back da moniez ASAP!
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07-02-2009 , 08:21 PM
its scary that people who have been around for so long can sink so low.

i guess the lesson is be more cautious with trading.

always send in smaller increments so even if they have a great reputation they can't scam you
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07-02-2009 , 09:05 PM
guys cmon now. he's gathering evidence.

anyone who has watched CSI knows how hard that can be. sometimes it takes them two entire episodes to figure **** out.
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07-02-2009 , 09:16 PM
I bet he's just coding the VB GUI right now that will track the real thief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
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07-02-2009 , 09:50 PM
Man, it's unthinkable that someone would ruin a reputation for 3 thousand bucks. SL needs to seek help (after he pays back OP obv).
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07-02-2009 , 09:56 PM
I noticed he was playing a 30K guarantee last night on FT as well. $100+9 buy-in. Tourney ID 96429102. He finished 111.

Some observer brought this thread up to him during the tourney. His reply was, "I am a girl. You have the wrong person."

Checked out his sharkscope. 15 games AVG stake $91.00. Total profit -$1,245.00. Was wondering if he always played tourneys at theses buyins, or is this new for him?

GL getting your monies OP. You come across as a class act ITT, where as speedlimits seems like a total DB.
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07-02-2009 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GFY_
I noticed he was playing a 30K guarantee last night on FT as well. $100+9 buy-in. Tourney ID 96429102. He finished 111.

Some observer brought this thread up to him during the tourney. His reply was, "I am a girl. You have the wrong person."

Checked out his sharkscope. 15 games AVG stake $91.00. Total profit -$1,245.00. Was wondering if he always played tourneys at theses buyins, or is this new for him?

GL getting your monies OP. You come across as a class act ITT, where as speedlimits seems like a total DB.
sounds like hes trying to go robusto so he can pay back the money he stole
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07-02-2009 , 10:19 PM
That's what I was thinking.
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07-02-2009 , 10:28 PM
looks like its not working
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07-03-2009 , 12:31 AM
Not to knock OP or anything but I'm always amazed by how much people around here trust basic randos on the internet. Are you really moving large amounts of cash and just expecting to never get burned?

The reputation talk is pretty ridiculous as well.OMG how could you ruin a reputation over 3k? Do you really think a 2+2 reputation is worth 3k? I mean, lol?

I guess the fact you have his real name might do some sort of damage, but it's pretty easy to explain you away as some prick on the internet.

I guess this could be read as some sort of message for SPEEDLIMITS to hold out, but I'm fairly confident he's made that decision for himself already. I mean this more to be a warning to not be stupid with your money, although I am sorry you lost some cash.
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07-03-2009 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The reputation talk is pretty ridiculous as well.OMG how could you ruin a reputation over 3k? Do you really think a 2+2 reputation is worth 3k? I mean, lol?
It could pretty easily be:

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
I have coached and been coached by a number of people.
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07-03-2009 , 12:59 AM
Ashame good guys like OP get ****ed over by idiot scammers like speedlimits. Ive played with the ****er and think I know he is playing on AP with a new account but with no concrete proof. Just instinct.

OP if you wanna PM me i can look into sending you a couple grand for this douchery by speed limits.
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07-03-2009 , 02:25 AM
so you traded with guy before and he paid you back? How much did you trade? Did he ever lend you money? Do you know him personally? One poster claimed the scammer was a losing player (-$1200) yet you claimed he was a winning player. I really hope you get your money back and wish you the best of luck in poker. It was a generous offer, but you have to be careful who you lend money to. I hear this story too often.
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07-03-2009 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Never Win
so you traded with guy before and he paid you back?
we traded before but he always sent first.

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How much did you trade?
~10k

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Did he ever lend you money?
no

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Do you know him personally?
no

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One poster claimed the scammer was a losing player (-$1200) yet you claimed he was a winning player.
He lost money in some tourneys but he won far more from cashgames. You can just check his tableratings. His screennames are in the OP as well as the answers for that 4 previous questions.

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I really hope you get your money back and wish you the best of luck in poker. It was a generous offer, but you have to be careful who you lend money to. I hear this story too often.
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07-03-2009 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Not to knock OP or anything but I'm always amazed by how much people around here trust basic randos on the internet. Are you really moving large amounts of cash and just expecting to never get burned?

The reputation talk is pretty ridiculous as well.OMG how could you ruin a reputation over 3k? Do you really think a 2+2 reputation is worth 3k? I mean, lol?

I guess the fact you have his real name might do some sort of damage, but it's pretty easy to explain you away as some prick on the internet.

I guess this could be read as some sort of message for SPEEDLIMITS to hold out, but I'm fairly confident he's made that decision for himself already. I mean this more to be a warning to not be stupid with your money, although I am sorry you lost some cash.
This is not just about his 2p2 reputation since we know his real name and some more details.

Admo came up with the idea to launch a homepage and i am really happy to have his support. BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com will be a professional and serious homepage like http://www.stevenwareisathief.com/. I'd think it is tough to explain something like that to all the people you deal with because it is really obvious not just some prick on the internet.

I am not allowed to give away details about his family but at least one of his parents has jobs where he / she can't afford a bad reputation.

And i obv can tell all the details about him and his family on BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com that i am not allowed to talk about here so their reputation will be ****ed as well and google will list my homepage when someone searches here names as well.

Furthermore, he might be looking for a real job in 2, 5, 10 or 20 years. If he hasn't paid me back, BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com will still be around and ruin his chances to find a regular job since everybody uses google, facebook etc. to get some more information about an applicant.

So yeah, this will cost him way more than 3k in the long run and i am seriously surprised why he didn't used this last chance i offered him so far.


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thanks for all the support so far. i got that PM from admo about the homepage. i got several other PMs from guys living close to him, offering me to talk to his parents. another guy offered me to print a letter and send it to his parents because it is hard to ignore physical mail and it looks more reputable compared to an email. others support me by finding the mistakes about his screenshot or simply by asking him to give me back my money. i really appreciate it.

Last edited by pokerbot_v7; 07-03-2009 at 03:20 AM.
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07-03-2009 , 03:41 AM
i don't think you should drag his parent's rep into this at all. sure go speak to them or send them letters or whatever, but to put his parent's details on the homepage, especially when as you say one of them can't afford it with their job, is pretty bad form when they should have nothing to do with it.

of course if they acknowledge their son scammed you and told you to go to hell, then go ahead
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07-03-2009 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SoLost
i don't think you should drag his parent's rep into this at all. sure go speak to them or send them letters or whatever, but to put his parent's details on the homepage, especially when as you say one of them can't afford it with their job, is pretty bad form when they should have nothing to do with it.
there is a pretty easy way to avoid it and it is just up to him.

oh and even when i don't exactly mention their names: isn't Mrozowski a pretty rare name in the US? so everyone who googles his parents (or his child in 20 years) will find the homepage anyways.

but i'd think about what information i exactly want to release when we really do work on the homepage in the next days.

his parents should know about the situation since i sent them an email and i know a couple other guys did the same.
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07-03-2009 , 03:54 AM
As much as I think the guys a piece of **** for not paying up I do think you are going way over the top. A debt is a personal matter that should be worked out between you and him and not his parents and half the poker community.
Making up websites and sending a letter to his family is just a ****ty way of dealing with this problem. Sort the problem out like a man and I dont mean beating him up because that wont solve anything.
Try getting a hold of him on the phone or meet him face to face. He's made a mistake and is probably broke and like the old saying goes " you aint getting blood from a stone"

Just for a second think about what may happen. He's broke depressed and probably trying to scrape up 3k. You spreading this all over the net with the threat to do more damage might send the guy over the edge. The net is a strange place and would you really want that on your head for a measly 3k.
On the other hand he may go the other way and try and track you down. Just consider all these things before you do something rash.
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07-03-2009 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
there is a pretty easy way to avoid it and it is just up to him.

oh and even when i don't exactly mention their names: isn't Mrozowski a pretty rare name in the US? so everyone who googles his parents (or his child in 20 years) will find the homepage anyways.

but i'd think about what information i exactly want to release when we really do work on the homepage in the next days.

his parents should know about the situation since i sent them an email and i know a couple other guys did the same.
i hope you get your money back the guy is obv a scum bag but involving his parents in this is pathetic
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