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07-02-2009 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
I do not like putting personal information up in public forums but there is a ton of information missing about pokerbot and his motives/vendettas against me. This has turned into a public spectacle and there are many inconsistencies in pokerbots story.
OK, so post your version of events. What version of Pokerbot's story is inaccurate???

Unless and until you do so, you look guilty as sh;t.
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07-02-2009 , 01:48 AM
Nstomper has played 18 hands total. All of them against Speedlimits. http://www.pokertableratings.com/abs...earch/nstomper

Here's the chip dumping session.

https://www.pokertableratings.com/re...c8gaoB9644n3qW

hands 8, 13, and 18 are the obvious ones

This doesn't necessarily prove anything about the current situation, although I think it could indicate that they're the same person. If both accounts were legitimate (i.e. both had registered documents on file with the ability to cash out, transfer funds, etc. then there would be no need to chip dump, despite Speedlimit's earlier claim that "chip dumping is faster"). Just an fyi.

Last edited by Keyser.; 07-02-2009 at 02:05 AM.
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07-02-2009 , 01:57 AM
Never would have suspected anything bad about Speedlimits

I've played with him some on FTP, and we also had one of our SSNLHU matches against each other

He seemed like an okay guy from the posts he made in SSNL
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07-02-2009 , 01:59 AM
just as an FYI, the way IP checks here work is that it logs every IP youve ever used to log onto your account. So if speedlimits and stomper know each other IRL and have ever logged in at each others place, or even use the same ISP its pretty easy to find the two accounts "linked". So its no way damning evidence that they are the same person. Its more likely in this case at least he is telling the truth and they are diff people.

which is kind of damning in itself tho, given that the outrage and haste to prove he isnt stomper is MUCH greater than anything hes done to try and disprove the tarnishing of his name for stealing money
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07-02-2009 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pok3rDemiGod
imo:

not sure why he blocked his creename, if you look at the top of the cashier it says Cashier - CyberGurly...

a real masterpiece you got going on, whatever the **** ur name is i alrdy forgot it like speedlimits or some ****.

i hope bad things happen to you
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07-02-2009 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
Maybe because I am trying to clear my name and I want to go over everything pokerbot has claimed? You realize pokerbot and I have a history right?
How are we supposed to know anything when you don't post anything substantive?

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
I am not going to get into the history between pokerbot and I because this is not the place.
Why did you try (but fail) to block out your screen name? Why block out the timestamps of the transfer?
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07-02-2009 , 02:08 AM
Speedlimits,

since I dont know either you or pokerbot, and honestly dont care one way or the other how it turns out. I would be happy to look at any evidence you have via PM that you dont wanna post cuz you just feel no one will listen, or so that you can send me screen shots that arent whited out if you somehow feel posting undoctored ones here compromises your privacy

Last edited by Alobar; 07-02-2009 at 02:10 AM. Reason: typo
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07-02-2009 , 02:18 AM
we must take out speed. why scam for 3k when he can make that in a couple weeks
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07-02-2009 , 02:32 AM
Okay I re-read the OP several times trying to figure out why Speedlimits would chip dump to stomper instead of vice versa, and why he claimed he got in trouble for chip dumping on FTP and not AP when that doesn't seem to be the case after reviewing his FTP sessions on tableratings. This is so convoluted I couldn't figure out an explanation, but I have some guesses.

My best guess is that Speedlimits plays most of his volume on AP (TR and past info confirms this). AP probably banned or froze his account after he chip dumped. Soo pokerbot transfers money to Speed's AP account, then Speed's AP account gets frozen (he hasn't played on AP since June 24), and Speed can't cover the debt with his FTP money--he's only made like 5k there since April so it's possible he's cashed out enough that he can't transfer 3k. That, or with his AP funds frozen 3k on FTP would decimate his entire online roll and he can't part with it ATM).

Why he decided to accept a 3k trade when he couldn't cover it on FTP still doesn't make any sense though. Maybe stomper is real and Speed dumped AP money in exchange for Stomper's FTP money, until they both get frozen and Stomper doesn't pay up on FTP?

Does this make any sense to anyone?

I'm a little biased here because I've had several nerdy e-fights with Speedlimits and I think he's a ****ty strat poster and a dumbass, which actually makes me think he has a reasonable but shady explanation for this (couldn't cover the transfer after funds got locked) but explained it in a ******ed way b/c that's what he does normally.

anyway, detective Keyser sounding out, I need a hobby
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07-02-2009 , 02:56 AM
he could definitely have a ******ed but somewhat-legit (and still completely ******ed in how it has been handled) explanation.

he just seems wholly uninterested in saying anything other than "everything he just told you is bull****".
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07-02-2009 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits
Maybe because I am trying to clear my name and I want to go over everything pokerbot has claimed? You realize pokerbot and I have a history right?

I am not going to get into the history between pokerbot and I because this is not the place.


f.ck you people for not believing me
Why does this screenshot does not show the 2 2k transfers we had? (You sent me 2k and i sent it back after AP cancelled my transfer requests.)

You are too dumb to even think about that.

e: The screenshot i posted yesterday shows that we actually had a 3k transfer on 06/05. post your screenshot with the timestamp. that is the reason why you sent me that 3k.


Last edited by pokerbot_v7; 07-02-2009 at 04:27 AM.
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07-02-2009 , 04:23 AM
Speedlimits you sound guilty as f*ck, and pokerbot has a very legit background. You are either hilariously guilty and doing a bad job covering your tracks, or both of you are in the wrong somehow and you're doing a bad job defending yourself. Either way you're not doing yourself a favor.
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07-02-2009 , 04:30 AM
I am willing to tell someone with a sick good reputation my password for my FTP- and AP-Account so he can check my history and confirm it here.

Post here or send me a PM when you are willing to help and have that sick reputation.
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07-02-2009 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
I am willing to tell someone with a sick good reputation my password for my FTP- and AP-Account so he can check my history and confirm it here.

Post here or send me a PM when you are willing to help and have that sick reputation.
I dont think you want to do this, iirc people have had their accounts banned/frozen for this.

Your best bet is having a support member confirm the transacations via an e-mail, and having them CC: the email to someone very reputable.
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07-02-2009 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
I am willing to tell someone with a sick good reputation my password for my FTP- and AP-Account so he can check my history and confirm it here.

Post here or send me a PM when you are willing to help and have that sick reputation.
Maybe record and upload a Camtasia video of you logging in and reviewing the history? That would be damn near impossible to fake right?
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07-02-2009 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
I dont think you want to do this, iirc people have had their accounts banned/frozen for this.

Your best bet is having a support member confirm the transacations via an e-mail, and having them CC: the email to someone very reputable.
meeh that'd suck.

even the guys doesn't play a single hand?

can someone reputable send me their email-adress? clayton i recognize your name from the highstakes forum, do you mind giving me your email?

i just want to make sure that everyone knows that Brett Mrozowski / speedlimits /speeedlimits on AP / CyberGurly on FTP / n0choice on Stars is a scammer.
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07-02-2009 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimits



THIS IS MY IP ADDRESS.

Yes I know Nstomper in real life. Yes he is a real person.

You realise that Roadrunner IPs are dynamic not static right?
Having a different IP address now than you did yesterday is not surprising... both 'your' and 'nstomper's IP addresses are Roadrunner IPs located in Kenosha, Wisconsin. You could have just disconnected and reconnected to get a new IP for your new alias.

Is there anyone who doesn't share an ISP and hometown with you who can vouch for you?
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07-02-2009 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
meeh that'd suck.

even the guys doesn't play a single hand?

can someone reputable send me their email-adress? clayton i recognize your name from the highstakes forum, do you mind giving me your email?

i just want to make sure that everyone knows that Brett Mrozowski / speedlimits /speeedlimits on AP / CyberGurly on FTP / n0choice on Stars is a scammer.
Pokerbot you have made your case very clear and I'm sure anyone who has read this thread won't deal with speed unless this gets cleared up with a good explanation.
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07-02-2009 , 04:55 AM
Speedlimits how can you be so stupid to defend yourself so poorly if you're really innocent? You read this thread, post in it and play on FTP all saying that you're gathering evidence, and then all you provide is one screenshot that shows a blanked out 3k transfer? As Clayton said, you're in no way doing yourself a favour whether you're guilty or innocent.

You really have dealt with this as badly as possible. You can't say f.ck us for not believing you when you still haven't defended yourself properly. Also can you please address the inconsistencies that pokerbot pointed out with your transfer? I gotta say man, you deserve the heat you're getting so far.

Also lol @ blanking out your ftp sn when its been stated multiple times in the thread and is at the top of the pic anyway.

edit: as Pyromantha said the IP shots don't prove anything I'm pretty surprised you thought that would be a good way to prove your innocence in that area.

edit 2: Pokerbot you should feel no need to prove anything further. Everyone here believes you because you've provided good evidence and apparently you're a trustworthy guy. It's only speedlimits now that needs to prove his innocence.
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07-02-2009 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by deathduck
Pokerbot you have made your case very clear and I'm sure anyone who has read this thread won't deal with speed unless this gets cleared up with a good explanation.
^This
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07-02-2009 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Keyser.
Maybe record and upload a Camtasia video of you logging in and reviewing the history? That would be damn near impossible to fake right?
good idea, done that.

i never used camtasia before. i just need to find a way to get my adress and my real name removed from the FTP cashier. i'll upload it after that.
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07-02-2009 , 05:21 AM
Video of my AP- / FTP-cashier: http://rapidshare.com/files/250984438/scam.wmv
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07-02-2009 , 05:39 AM
This thread is an eye opener for me. I pray that whatever force, craving, urge that got the best of speedlimits and made him do what it seems that he did never happens to me.

it seems that we are dealing with a very powerful thing here (poker & money) that can make people do things that they may not normally do.

My coach was just talking to me about not making poker such a big part of my life. I hear ya coach.
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07-02-2009 , 06:03 AM
OP: you have chat transcripts and logs via poker client transfer windows.

If you genuinely have been ripped off then small claims court/report to police/lawsuit a gogo.

Speedlimits - just post whatever proof you have.
Nobody cares about how appropriate a place this is for the discussion - only guilt/innocence and you're just making it look really bad for yourself by being willing to have this thread around for 1s longer than it takes to post whatever you have.
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07-02-2009 , 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
Video of my AP- / FTP-cashier: http://rapidshare.com/files/250984438/scam.wmv
Wow well played sir,

Speedlimits / Brett Mrozowski is a scam artist cheater thief
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