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yeah... where to begin -.-
if you kill someone you generally can't bring someone back from the dead, if you steal something, u can give it back and it will (almost) be like it never happened...quite a big difference no? The RESULT is reversible....and indeed the crime isn't, but imo he has been punished
Back to the result, you want to stimulate that it will be reversed, in this case: that the money will be returned. How is any of this going to do that?

It doesn't matter whether or not it can be replaced. Technically, any stolen current currency can be replaced. Go rob a bank and tell them afterwards that the money can be replaced, tell the judge that, and then tell them that the public shouldn't be aware that you're a bank robber.

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08-10-2009 , 02:49 PM

#1002

Vantek

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The difference is that so far it's still up to his relative free will to pay the money back. This thread is the main thing that is causing him distress over it, and getting rid of it is the main thing that would motivate him to pay back, which is coincidentally the main purpose of this thread also. If this went to court and he were forced to pay, obviously noone would want this thread modified.

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08-10-2009 , 03:17 PM

#1003

tubasteve

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in soviet russia, newspaper prints you!

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08-10-2009 , 04:28 PM

#1004

Blert

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Originally Posted by S.P.

but why wouldn't u also edit his name out? the thread can serve above mentioned purposes without the name.

Because he might do the same thing to someone else in future, if his name was deleted they wouldn't be aware that he has a history of this sort of thing.

If he paid up then there is nothing more to add to this thread and it will gradually drop down the forum.

S.P. - do you think that the money should be repaid asap ?

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08-10-2009 , 04:49 PM

#1005

Black Peter

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Originally Posted by S.P.

u got me! xD

what u say is quite interesting, cause a lot more got into this, like: wikipedia pages, google results etc. also, a lot of people have alrdy stated that this is NOT about the money, but about the fact that this even took place, the 3k doesn't matter (the amount seems to be insignificant to some people, I guess these are the people u call ''balla'' on these forums).
so what I'm trying to say is, if the money would be transferred after all, would all of this be undone, in other words: any reason why I would pay back the money after all of this? (except for ''doing the right thing'' of course).
IMO everyone deserves a second chance, that means: if the money is to be transferred back into the account, there should be no hard feelings, no google results....

FYP

Now, pay the money back, Brett.

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08-10-2009 , 05:23 PM

#1006

S.P.

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Originally Posted by Blert

the word is: stigma....and of course do I think the money should be paid back asap, all I'm saying is that all of this is not going to smoothen things out, what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

FYP

Now, pay the money back, Brett.

someone alrdy beat u to this kind of remark u know

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08-10-2009 , 05:38 PM

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Blert

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Originally Posted by S.P.

the word is: stigma....and of course do I think the money should be paid back asap, all I'm saying is that all of this is not going to smoothen things out, what do you think?

I think it ain't ever going away and the only chance it will is if the money is returned.

People who commit crimes should be punished. After rejecting the opportunity to pay back the money Brett tried to swerve the responsibility, this is his punishment. Maybe not what he was expecting but that's his fault and his alone.

If it was me, I would repay and let it all die down eventually.

And to be perfectly honest, he is lucky that the person he scammed wasn't some mobbed-up poker player, otherwise he would be waking up with body parts missing.

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08-10-2009 , 05:46 PM

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Kittens

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I did, and it's the same. I deleted all cookies, removed him from Google auto complete, and deleted all internet history. Still the first thing to pop up under "Brett Mr." I am using Mozilla Opera.

Huh? Mozilla and Opera are different browsers.

Anyway.. google (and wikipedia) do ajax lookups for autocomplete. For example, type "assho" and see what comes up

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08-10-2009 , 08:25 PM

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Black Peter

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Originally Posted by S.P.

someone alrdy beat u to this kind of remark u know

Thanks for the heads-up, Brett. Clearly, this whole thing has stressed you out so much that you've read every post in the thread.

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08-10-2009 , 09:26 PM

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YippeeKaeYay

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He's playing 50nl on ftp now.

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08-10-2009 , 10:02 PM

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LOLDONKBETZ

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biweekly anti scammer bump

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08-10-2009 , 10:28 PM

#1012

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whats the most buyins youve lost in a day, i just dropped 14buyins man wtf.

SET OVER SET FOR 800BB POT. LOL

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1590

He posted this 2 days ago. Karma imo.

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08-10-2009 , 11:51 PM

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footscrayzy

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So Brett is ITT campaigning to have the thread deleted once he pays the stolen money back. What a weasel.

I am sure that honest 2+2ers would rather that the thread becomes a classic and stays forever leaving Brett's name all over the interwebs for future bosses, girlfriends and associates to see.

As for the money stolen, I think 2+2ers would each chip in a small amount to keep the thread alive and Brett the thief can keep the dirty money and all that bad karma that is attached to it.

$50 pledge from my $2k roll.

FU Brett Mrozowski - thief.

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08-11-2009 , 12:18 AM

#1014

NoahSD

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I'd appreciate it if a mod could edit the first post to include something about my story. Could just quote this:

Brett owes me 1k too. He owed me for coaching for a while, and I completely forgot about it. This thread reminded me, so I PMed him about it. He instaresponded asking how much he owes. I replied saying it was $1k on July 2nd, and I haven't heard from him since.

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08-11-2009 , 01:18 AM

#1015

SoLost

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man brett must suck quite a lot if he is losing at 50nl. for a poker player who won 60k playing 1/2 id assume it woulld be easy to grind night and day, make 5k and pay pokerbot back with a bit left to play 100nl. how did he win so much before and lose so much now? is it because he was playing a year ago and on absolute where games are really soft?

also brett, as reefy said: FYL

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08-11-2009 , 05:57 AM

#1016

pokerbot_v7

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no way the games got that much tougher so a very good 1/2 winning player player from 1 year ago can't beat 50nl anymore today. especially since he tries to improve his game with his 2 coaches and his DC membership.

my guess would be that brett has some things on his mind and can't really focus on poker anymore. it would be the same for me when i would have done something like that.

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08-11-2009 , 06:09 AM

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hound dog

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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7

Since Bad Man Brett Mrowesafknlot has had the rash he has been wondering which goat he caught it off and unable to concentrate on the pokerrz. (Goat is going through some self loathing too)

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08-11-2009 , 06:18 AM

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subandi

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Originally Posted by footscrayzy

So Brett is ITT campaigning to have the thread deleted once he pays the stolen money back. What a weasel.

but thats a good sign no

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08-11-2009 , 04:38 PM

#1019

noImagination

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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7

ty septic

this is him:

nice cat

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08-11-2009 , 10:14 PM

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footscrayzy

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Originally Posted by subandi

but thats a good sign no

Not the way he's going about it.

Why not use his usual account?

Why not pay back the money and then try to have the thread removed?

Brett is only going to do what he should if he gets a payback - he is still a selfish snake.

Brett hasn't learned anything from this and he deserves to have his name all over google.

If he was remorseful in any way he'd have paid Pokerbot back by now. He obviously has the money or he wouldn't be talking about it.

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08-11-2009 , 10:47 PM

#1021

StatusBaller

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pay him back douchebag

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08-11-2009 , 11:21 PM

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bradleah

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Originally Posted by StatusBaller

pay him back douchebag

doucebag implies that he did this without malice. Brett Mrozowski stole $3000. doucebag is too nice of a term for Brett Mrozowski

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08-12-2009 , 01:09 AM

#1023

ChristopherEucken

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god i hate this thread and speedlimits more and more for everytime it makes the first page in poker bbv

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08-12-2009 , 01:11 AM

#1024

GreenSmoke85

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lol that Brett still posts at 2p2 what a joke. That just blows my mind.

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08-12-2009 , 09:36 AM

#1025

rubslotionskin

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wasent going to post, but its BBV....

read this thread front to back
about 20 pages deep, i knew Judge Judy would make an apperance
when i seen ch3ckraise posting, there had to be a bing blang blaow redeux

i thought of both, so Beat imo.(altho cr did make it up himself, so 1 beat i suppose)

epic thread, plan on flaming from rail, just cuz it'd be fun.....

OP - i guess the website was a no no, because it went talk talk talk different subject - end of topic.

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