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07-28-2009 , 04:55 PM

#701

pokerbot_v7

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I hope this helps all you .5/1 and 1/2-grinders that play against him on a regular basis.

Exploit him:

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07-28-2009 , 08:32 PM

#702

Messiahkid

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Originally Posted by rock-steady

Pokerbot email ppl from FT and AP this thread and hopefully get his accounts locked

This.

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07-28-2009 , 08:38 PM

#703

Fracchiolla

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Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 470

For anyone trying to collect on a debt don't do what the OP has done. OP has no chance of seeing the 3k after all the BS that has gone down. Villain probably doesn't give a **** about this forum wiki or any other lame ass way your going about it.

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07-28-2009 , 09:01 PM

#704

urbanboss

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The question is whether or not he had a chance to collect before all this was done. Probably not?

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07-28-2009 , 09:08 PM

#705

Fracchiolla

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Any chance he did have is most definitely gone. Best approach would be to talk to the villain and tell him you understand that he has fallen on hard times blah blah blah and try to work with him.
You cant get blood from a stone and this is a business where people will go broke and not be able to pay up. Maybe venturing in to the real world helps dealing with people and understanding these things. Posting and blogging about it is not going to help get the 3K back.

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07-28-2009 , 11:01 PM

#706

tubasteve

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well you've got balls Brett Mrozowski

i wish i believed in god and an afterlife so your ass would burn in hell

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07-28-2009 , 11:05 PM

#707

Nstomper

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Originally Posted by tubasteve

well you've got balls Brett Mrozowski

i wish i believed in god and an afterlife so your ass would burn in hell

I don't get why people still say his name like it hasnt been said 10k times in this thread.

ps tubasteve you are bad I'm surprised you aren't scamming anyone yet.

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07-28-2009 , 11:38 PM

#708

tubasteve

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lol.

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07-28-2009 , 11:59 PM

#709

CaseofKings

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Looks to me like Pokerbot was swindled. I think it's time Speedlimits hired Johnny Cochran.

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07-29-2009 , 01:15 AM

#710

The15thFloor

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Has anyone noticed Nstomper is posting again, against speeedlimits? Just curious as I thought he was outted as Bretts account...

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07-29-2009 , 01:24 AM

#711

epic7203

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Originally Posted by The15thFloor

Has anyone noticed Nstomper is posting again, against speeedlimits? Just curious as I thought he was outted as Bretts account...

I took at he was bragging, but using Nstomper's username to not look like it is directly him.

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07-29-2009 , 01:30 AM

#712

manupod

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OP- where do you live?

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07-29-2009 , 01:48 AM

#713

Nstomper

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Originally Posted by epic7203

I took at he was bragging, but using Nstomper's username to not look like it is directly him.

not him. his friend though.

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07-29-2009 , 04:09 AM

#714

redshift83

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Originally Posted by Nstomper

I don't get why people still say his name like it hasnt been said 10k times in this thread.

ps tubasteve you are bad I'm surprised you aren't scamming anyone yet.

it affects how google ranks pages for the search result Brett Mrozowski

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07-29-2009 , 04:36 AM

#715

pokerbot_v7

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KARMA!

(preflop all in)

all good fnx

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07-29-2009 , 05:05 AM

#716

MajinBoob

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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7

KARMA!

(preflop all in)

all good fnx

Brilliant

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07-29-2009 , 05:08 AM

#717

StriverzG

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I"m so glad I'm not Brett Mrozowski.

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07-29-2009 , 07:26 AM

#718

pokerbot_v7

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Originally Posted by manupod

OP- where do you live?

Germany. Why?

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07-29-2009 , 08:51 AM

#719

Speedlimits

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Originally Posted by Newff

Pretty sure you know nothing about any amount of money Tubasteve makes, Hi Brett...

Ok Nstomper is not me. You guys are pretty dense with thinking that. Look at it from my perspective, if I thought you guys knew Nstomper was my gimmick account then why would I continue posting on it? I would just post on this account.

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07-29-2009 , 09:04 AM

#720

h2005

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

you going to prove your innocence?how`s your mum feel about all this? she must be real proud

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07-29-2009 , 09:19 AM

#721

LOLDONKBETZ

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

Everytime you post here it makes me want to call your mothers school and talk to her superiors and make up lies compounding this story.

****ing thief

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07-29-2009 , 09:47 AM

#722

manupod

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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7

Germany. Why?

Looking into legal action we can take.

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07-29-2009 , 09:53 AM

#723

Newff

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

Of all the posts to respond to you pick that one? WTF is wrong with you, there are a lot more things you need to address. You probably won't though because you a lying POS. Someone says your screenshots are faked and you hide away. If you were telling the truth you could post evidence NO PROBLEM AT ALL, it's not like your fooling anyone.

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07-29-2009 , 11:00 AM

#724

epic7203

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

Cuz you're obviously a level above everyone else ldo.

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07-29-2009 , 11:22 AM

#725

redshift83

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Originally Posted by mhalberstram

Not trying to flame, but a lot what's written here doesn't make much sense.

Obv, any civil claim pokerbot brought would sound in contract (what else could it be, really?), and to call this a legally enforceable agreement isn't a stretch at all. If you're talking about the strength of the evidence, etc., there might be an issue. But assuming that pokerbot can show that a bargain was made, he held his end up while speedlimits didn't, that's really all you need. So I don't understand why the claim isn't solid in theory.

Also, while I'm not an expert in jurisdiction, I don't really see anything stopping pokerbot here. As long as he sues in a state that can exercise personal jurisdiction over speedlimits, he should be fine. I'm not aware of anything preventing a court from hearing a civil case where both parties are US citizens (I assume they are, and really only speedlimits has to be), even if performance of the contract occurred over the internet (even where the money transfer occurred on websites owned by non-US companies). If pokerbot sues in a court of general jurisdiction (i.e. most state courts), all he needs is for the court to have personal jurisdiction over speedlimits (most likely his state of residence). A US state court might not have jurisdiction to order the money transfer over the internet, but they can order speedlimits to pay $3k in damages.

Finally, I agree that the likelihood of a prosecutor going after speedlimits is low, but again, the theory is legally sound: This was a deceitful taking of property.

cliffs:
-pokerbot can sue, but it might be tough for him to win

-pokerbot can file a police complaint or interenet fraud complaint, but it might not amount to much

-disputes are neither enforced or plead. Contracts are enforced. Facts are plead.

in before tl;dr

the real issue is that it will cost more than 3k in money's to get the 3k thru the legal system. even if you win (because brett will likely not appear and contest), you probably won't be able to collect because brett doesn't have any attachable assets.

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