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07-14-2009 , 04:12 AM
He is on facebook and myspace....send a link to everyone of his friends and associates on both of those websites.....let them know what a dirtbag he is too.
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07-14-2009 , 04:43 AM
Beat: Brett Mrozowski and I share the same birthday
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07-14-2009 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by drifter265
love the avatar. location of url?
it is from the german movie "keinohrhasen":


Spoiler:
just kidding, i know what you are looking for: http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Ga...FW-Wii-Bowling (NSFW)
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07-14-2009 , 08:49 PM
so what now?
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07-14-2009 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ktec
so what now?
- he doesn't use his 2p2 account and his AP- and FTP-account anymore
- his parents know what he did but don't respond to emails, phone calls and messages left on the answering machine
- this thread is the #1 hit when someone googles his name
- this thread is the #2 hit when someone googles his mothers name
- someone sent links to this thread to most of his facebook friends
- someone posted about this at his mothers wikipedia page
- this thread has 50k views and 5 pictures of him.. no idea how many different people this are but i am sure someone will recognize him next year in vegas

totally worth the 3k.
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07-14-2009 , 09:34 PM
Pokerbot, have you inquired into filing a criminal complaint or a civil complaint against him?
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07-14-2009 , 09:45 PM
That does seem like some good revenge.
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07-14-2009 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dlorc
Pokerbot, have you inquired into filing a criminal complaint or a civil complaint against him?
yes, that post from Pook sounds really good:

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The fact that OP lives elsewhere does not mean Brett Mrozowski the scammer cannot be sued. AFAIK you are not allowed to be represented in small claims court but if you boost the figure to include moral damages, time spent trying to collect your money, legal and court fees the figure should increase to a level where you can seek representation to sue Brett Mrozowski for you. It may cost less than 3K but when you include the legal fees you can win your 3K and pay nothing for it.

Some people already mentioned that courts do not enforce gambling debts. This is not a debt. At no point in time did you lend him money. This is fraud, which is a criminal charge that should be taken care of by the police. All you have to do is pay some NVG guy to hand in your signed statement to the police and BOOM, Brett Mrozowski gets a criminal record. That will do way more damage to him than google. Once he is convicted, you can have somebody represent you in civil court and getting the 3K back will be a breeze, it will take like 5 minutes. LOL @ people who think defrauding people on the internet for large sums of money like Brett Mrozowski did is something the police will ignore.

I got scammed for an even larger amount and the threat of going to the police was enough to get me (most of) my money back after I found out the scammer's real name and location. It was much closer to a gambling-related debt than your situation too. I did not research all the details because my scammer paid up as soon as he found out I had his details and was willing to go all the way. Slap a criminal conviction on the bastard's file and he'll never recover from it. Not to mention it's almost for free.

Also, to the mod who deleted all the Brett Mrozowski quotes from the first page. Google periodically scans web pages and recalculates the relevance according to their algorythm. Next time google checks out the first page it will get a lower score because of all the Brett Mrozowski mentions you deleted. It will still probably be the top result but the point is valid and something you should take into consideration and not talk down on knowledgeable people who point that out to you.
this should be a good job for a law student or someone else who has the knowledge to get this done, ideally living close to him. i would obv pay for the work, PM me.
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07-14-2009 , 10:28 PM
I seriously doubt that the cost of any reasonable lawyer would be +ev for you to hire them to get your 3k back.
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07-14-2009 , 11:38 PM
* law student
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07-14-2009 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I seriously doubt that the cost of any reasonable lawyer would be +ev for you to hire them to get your 3k back.
yeah but then at least another piece of scum liar thief dbag can have it and not Brett. should be totally +EV if its just a wash
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07-15-2009 , 06:10 AM
bump
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07-15-2009 , 08:09 AM
cant believe I read all this. hope you get your money back op (unlikely)
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07-15-2009 , 12:36 PM
From testimonials page on dailyvariance.com (who sell the tri/CTS ebook):

""Just read half the book. There is so much good information in here it is going to take me months to apply it all.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Cole is a genius" -- Speedlimits (2+2) "
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07-15-2009 , 12:44 PM
If you took him to court to establish guilt then couldn't you sue him for legal fees and your trouble?
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07-15-2009 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by noisy_the_Rhy
If you took him to court to establish guilt then couldn't you sue him for legal fees and your trouble?
No. If speedlimits gets convicted of a crime, pokerbot wouldn't have any legal fees b/c the state (whichever one speedlimits lives in) would prosecuting the case and bearing those costs. Although, a judge might award pokerbot restitution.

Interesting thing here is that the "theft" (in quotes b/c it could also be considered "fraud" or "false pretenses" depending on the way the criminal law is written wherever he is) actually occurred over the internet. So if pokerbot wanted wants to file some sort of criminal complaint, he'd probably do it with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). Now we're not talking local county prosecution; instead, the feds would look into it, including the FBI.

A civil lawsuit gets hairier, but that's enough posting for now.

Pokerbot, if you have any law-related questions, I might be able to give you some info. PM me if you want.
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07-15-2009 , 08:00 PM
bump
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07-15-2009 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pook
The fact that OP lives elsewhere does not mean Brett Mrozowski the scammer cannot be sued. AFAIK you are not allowed to be represented in small claims court but if you boost the figure to include moral damages, time spent trying to collect your money, legal and court fees the figure should increase to a level where you can seek representation to sue Brett Mrozowski for you. It may cost less than 3K but when you include the legal fees you can win your 3K and pay nothing for it.

Some people already mentioned that courts do not enforce gambling debts. This is not a debt. At no point in time did you lend him money. This is fraud, which is a criminal charge that should be taken care of by the police. All you have to do is pay some NVG guy to hand in your signed statement to the police and BOOM, Brett Mrozowski gets a criminal record. That will do way more damage to him than google. Once he is convicted, you can have somebody represent you in civil court and getting the 3K back will be a breeze, it will take like 5 minutes. LOL @ people who think defrauding people on the internet for large sums of money like Brett Mrozowski did is something the police will ignore.

I got scammed for an even larger amount and the threat of going to the police was enough to get me (most of) my money back after I found out the scammer's real name and location. It was much closer to a gambling-related debt than your situation too. I did not research all the details because my scammer paid up as soon as he found out I had his details and was willing to go all the way. Slap a criminal conviction on the bastard's file and he'll never recover from it. Not to mention it's almost for free.

Also, to the mod who deleted all the Brett Mrozowski quotes from the first page. Google periodically scans web pages and recalculates the relevance according to their algorythm. Next time google checks out the first page it will get a lower score because of all the Brett Mrozowski mentions you deleted. It will still probably be the top result but the point is valid and something you should take into consideration and not talk down on knowledgeable people who point that out to you.
This dispute would not be enforceable in a U.S. court - small claims or otherwise (and yes you can be represented in small claims court). As a stretch - maybe a breach of contract/fraud action but that would be all and I'm about certain there's no jurisdiction in an American court no matter how you plead this dispute. Also, there is no possibility of a criminal action, not even remotely based on the facts of this circumstance.

Unfortunately, bot's probably going about trying to recover the only way it could possibly get done.
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07-15-2009 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rootnstein
This dispute would not be enforceable in a U.S. court - small claims or otherwise (and yes you can be represented in small claims court). As a stretch - maybe a breach of contract/fraud action but that would be all and I'm about certain there's no jurisdiction in an American court no matter how you plead this dispute. Also, there is no possibility of a criminal action, not even remotely based on the facts of this circumstance.

Unfortunately, bot's probably going about trying to recover the only way it could possibly get done.
It wouldn't hurt for him to at least try. Since he knows where he lives he should talk to the police there -- I'm sure they will at least be able to tell him something helpful even if they can't do anything themselves.
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07-15-2009 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jeccross
From testimonials page on dailyvariance.com (who sell the tri/CTS ebook):

""Just read half the book. There is so much good information in here it is going to take me months to apply it all.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Cole is a genius" -- Speedlimits (2+2) "
didn't know that book had scamming tips
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07-16-2009 , 10:00 AM
back to the first page of BBV imo.
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07-16-2009 , 10:44 AM
less opinions, more photoshops
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07-16-2009 , 03:26 PM
lolololol at respected name and player being just destroyed...

U really never know about people.. well played OP. Im sure u agree, u've come out on top, 3k less but still. Should be satisfied with your efforts
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07-16-2009 , 03:59 PM
update?
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07-17-2009 , 05:14 AM
can someone please provide cliffs?
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