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07-03-2009 , 06:58 PM
agreed
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07-03-2009 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FlippoManiacs
no he didnt say that. all he said was, that it might be bad for their reputation to be mentioned on this website. then suddenly all you people made a big deal out of it, what it wasn't, cause pokerbot said he will think about what information he will release on the website.
so what i can gather from this post is that you didn't read the thread properly, didn't read my post where i quoted him directly talking about releasing information about his family that he cannot in this thread (and bolded the key words), and didn't think to do either of these when you read my last post telling someone this. nice one.
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07-03-2009 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nstomper
I know I am not a very well known member by the community but I have dealt with pokerbot before and echo the same sentiments as Speedlimits. This is not the first time he has come out with a slander campaign. I will post more specifics when I get home from work.
you home from work yet?
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07-03-2009 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SoLost
so what i can gather from this post is that you didn't read the thread properly, didn't read my post where i quoted him directly talking about releasing information about his family that he cannot in this thread (and bolded the key words), and didn't think to do either of these when you read my last post telling someone this. nice one.
"releasing information about his family that he cannot in this thread": i can't even post their first names here.

it is obv not my intention to call them scummy or something like that. i just think about posting that their son scammed my for 3k and that they don't reply to my emails. if i post this at BrettMrozowskiIsAScammer.com i do it with the intention that they finally recognize that it is true and serious and react in some way. i hope they tell brett to do the right thing and give me back my 3k.

i know it is not their fault that he scammed me. but since he doesn't care about his reputation and because i can't sue him and because i can't talk to him face to face (both because i live in germany) i feel this is the only and best way to continue to put pressure on him.

you posted this earlier:

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i know if i scammed someone (i wouldn't obv) and was refusing to pay, someone's best bet of making me pay would probably be to call my parents because they'd call me up and tell me how i'm being disgusting and would make me pay the debt back (i don't live with them either).
it is the same for me and probably for most people. thats why i think about that possibility.

maybe we had some misunderstandings because english is not my first language and i probably use the wrong words from time to time.


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Originally Posted by Hoskomatic
If pokerbot says Brett Mrozowski son of XXXX and XXXXX on a website he is presenting facts and just clarifying which Brett Mrozowski it is. It probably wouldn't have an effect on either parents job to be honest but if someone googles the parents name and sees that their son scammed someone for 3K and then decided to fire them over that that seems strange.
This is the only leverage that pokerbot has left. Brett has proven that he doesn't care about his name here so anything in this thread is pretty meaningless except for the consequences of his name being tarnished all over google. Although the possibility that his parents life will be negatively effected from this website is probably pretty slim it is still another consequence that Brett has to think about that might get him to give back the money.
And to the person saying "think of what Brett's going through right now" screw that. He has had multiple chances to come out and give explanations of why he did it and man up and say "I'll pay you back in a week cause I lost the money" or "I lied and I can't pay back but I will eventually." This seems ridiculous that people think Brett shouldn't be let off. Though I don't think anything about his parents further than their name should be mentioned on any website.
yeah thats what i think as well

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07-03-2009 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by craigmd
you home from work yet?
He's gathering info stop disturbing him with your posts.
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07-03-2009 , 10:32 PM
Brett Mrozowski is fair game for anything. The evidence is solid & overwhelming. He has stolen in the region of $3,000 of another man's money. He even tried to fool us all with ****ty doctored screenshots! He's a liar, a thief.

Scum like this SHOULD live in fear. If his address, or details of his family start getting put up on a forum or website, that's a good thing imo. All details should be put up for all of the community to see. He should be made to feel nervous and be dragged out in to the open.
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07-03-2009 , 11:16 PM
1. If that website goes up, and the owner is american, and the website somehow causes harm to Speedlimit, physically or mentally can he then sue the owner?

The evidence, which i do not doubt a single bit, is still not canon, and if it is presented as certain on the website it can be seen as slander, am i not correct?

The consequences for this could be quite big in the form of a lawsuit.


THESTIG: Do you think stealing money is so bad that he is the scum of the earth? Even if someone stole 100k from me, and i will probably never own that much, i would still not call them the scum of the earth.
It's like people advocating the use of professionals(mob etc) to get money back by force, using threats or physical violence. Where the hell is your morals is my question? Is money really worth that much to you, that you would risk others well being because of it? Then you are no better than the guy who stole it from you in the first place.

Anyways, hope the guy comes to his senses and pays you back the money, including an apology and something to make up for all the trouble you have gone through.
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07-03-2009 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by William F Guile
MrTaylorSwift, I was scammed by life in general. Care to compensate me as well? Thx.
I dont pay you for being a degen
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Originally Posted by Pok3rDemiGod
Mr Taylor Swift that's pretty legit offer.
haha
If you got scammed for 3k by a formerly respected member and had proof etc, Id do the same for you. Because of prior experiences ive had.
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07-03-2009 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tensaigg
1. If that website goes up, and the owner is american, and the website somehow causes harm to Speedlimit, physically or mentally can he then sue the owner?
Please don't start with this ****. Non-lawyers that have watched too much law & order tilt me to no end.
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07-03-2009 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
Please don't start with this ****. Non-lawyers that have watched too much law & order tilt me to no end.
It was a question. And seeing that you did not answer, i'm guessing you do not know? I'm not American, nut people sue for everything down there, and well, your justice system has more exploitable holes than a swizz cheese.

.... oh wow... I did exactly the thing you called me out for doing, only ten times harder didn't I? FML
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07-03-2009 , 11:54 PM
i had him on ignore since before this thread. prolly cuz he posts strat advice for limits he doesnt play
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07-04-2009 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vantek
Oh wow, wtf is everyone on about. This is ridiculous.

The only reason for EVER mentioning Speedlimits' parents in this thread was because it was expected that THE SCAMMER will be EMBARRASSED out of his mind when his parents hear about it. Same for scammer's friends or siblings and so on. Jesus christ. What the hell are you people thinking?

Who ever talked about trying to ruin his parents' career? I guess outing like everyone's email could be considered a little douchy but really come on, that is not a big deal, everyone is going to get an email that their son/brother/friend is a scammer, BOO HOO. My life would be ruined if I got an email saying that my brother is a scammer. Really now.
+1

People are acting like pokerbot was saying he was going to do everything he could to ruin speedlimits' parents reputation. That's absurd, and even the tiny bit I know about the guy I can tell that's not something he's going to do.

You guys whining about this scammer's poor parents are being ridiculous. AFAIK pokerbot hasn't even posted their names nor has he said he planned to. Get the **** off his back and let the guy try to recover his money. I'd be shocked if speedlimits were busto, so this most likely comes down to pride. The best way I can think of to get the kid to pay up is public humiliation.
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07-04-2009 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FlippoManiacs
if by ******ed you mean: "have u escrowed a lot of money to wcg for a HU4rollz that never happend because you were backing out when you found out that you gonna play a hsnler". then no, i'm not.
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good one, yet your pic wasnt fitting...
lol
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07-04-2009 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ch3ckraise
Brett Mrozowski, I'd fix this before your mom, dad, students, future lovers, friends, family, future employers and future children google the name:Brett Mrozowski.

Because if I was one of the above persons and googled your name, Brett Mrozowski, I would think that you, Brett Mrozowski, are a degenerate losing gambler in denial who stole $3,000 from an honest guy to feed your gambling addiction.

Pokerbots screen shot, story and IM time stamps match up perfectly. While you stay silent, change information and hide.

Prove yourself wrong sir or the Mrozowski name will be tarnished on the interwebz forever.

Just my .02

Bling Blang Blaow!

Man you are famous now, the 2+2 pokercast even mentioned your thread, as you probably have heard.

Oh yeah give him back his monies.
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07-04-2009 , 03:26 AM
Tbh if one created a XXXisascammer.com site for me (regardless of whether I as innocent), I would retort with a XXXspent4yearsinprisonforrape.com site about him. And thus the cycle will continue until there are 100+ websites and you've put so much time into designing them that you forget what the orginal argument was all about.

*LEGIT QUESTION* There have been many "unpaid debt" threads in BBV, why has this one created more venom than any of the others?
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07-04-2009 , 04:13 AM
Wow.

You should just give the hoard at 4chan his personal information, AIM sn and cell # and let them take care of this...
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07-04-2009 , 04:17 AM


I say kidnap the cat for ransom.
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07-04-2009 , 04:27 AM
He obv thinks he can just shy away and forget about it and be 3k richer.

theres people out there who will take care of this for far less than 3k
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07-04-2009 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrTaylorSwift
I'll say it one more time, OP, I will give you back some if not all of the money you were scammed until he pays. I know what its like to be scammed and its not fun.
PM me OP.
This is pretty damn lol... you want to do charity give it to homeless mothers omg
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07-04-2009 , 07:01 AM
guys pls stop posting that information here. i appreciate that you try to help and find information but Alobar made it very clear that these information are not allowed here.

i don't want this thread to be deleted / locked / merged.

Alobar, please just delete it.
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07-04-2009 , 07:08 AM
gl pokerbot though, we've done some trades and you're a stand-up guy, so far your reputation has only improved as a result of this thread.

furthermore Speedlimit's oldest coaching thread was an embarrassment with his character and reputation being questioned
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07-04-2009 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tensaigg
THESTIG: Do you think stealing money is so bad that he is the scum of the earth? Even if someone stole 100k from me, and i will probably never own that much, i would still not call them the scum of the earth.
You would feel differently IF someone actually did scam you for 100k. How can you pretend that you wouldn't even go as far as to call someone "scum of the earth" if they stole 100k from you? As if calling someone who stole 100k from you "scum of the earth" is too harsh! Your a berk mate! Come back when you have some life experience and "understand".

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Originally Posted by Tensaigg
It's like people advocating the use of professionals(mob etc) to get money back by force, using threats or physical violence. Where the hell is your morals is my question? Is money really worth that much to you, that you would risk others well being because of it? Then you are no better than the guy who stole it from you in the first place.
Your the one defending a thief here, you need to think about your own morals and not worry about mine, lol @ me being as bad as the thief, I know right from wrong son, you won't catch me ripping someone off, then lying to everyone to cover my tracks. Mob thing sounds good to me btw, he stole, he should be made to pay back & punished, that's justice imo, nothing morally wrong with that.
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07-04-2009 , 07:41 AM
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Do you think stealing money is so bad that he is the scum of the earth?
Absolutely. I bet you or one of your "loved ones" have/has stolen or done something similar your/him/herself to try to suggest otherwise?
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07-04-2009 , 08:11 AM
Posting the details is justified imo well done.
Glad some people care enough about what's right to do it.

At least one of his parents is in a responsible position, maybe she will bail her son out of the trouble the jackass has got himself and her in to.
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07-04-2009 , 08:48 AM
do you think he is ever gonna give you back the $3k after all the info his parents have been posted? theres not alot more you can do now
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