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Speedlimits / Brett Mrozowski scammed me for 3k

I traded several times with him before and really didn't expect something like that. But he scammed me for 3k.

Last wednesday we talked on AIM:

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paperorplastic54 (19:28:00 24/06/2009)
hey bro

Jan (19:28:14 24/06/2009)
hey

paperorplastic54 (19:28:18 24/06/2009)
how have you been?

Jan (19:28:36 24/06/2009)
i run terrible.. but i am fine. :-)

paperorplastic54 (19:28:49 24/06/2009)
can i join your run bad club lol

Jan (19:28:59 24/06/2009)
hehe

paperorplastic54 (19:29:08 24/06/2009)
i was wondering if u are able to do a transfer

Jan (19:29:23 24/06/2009)
sure, what do you need?

paperorplastic54 (19:29:25 24/06/2009)
i have FT funds and I need AP funds

Jan (19:29:38 24/06/2009)
how much?

paperorplastic54 (19:30:07 24/06/2009)
2k

Jan (19:30:20 24/06/2009)
yeah thats np

paperorplastic54 (19:30:25 24/06/2009)
ok cool

paperorplastic54 (19:30:41 24/06/2009)
whats your FT name ill xfer

Jan (19:30:53 24/06/2009)
pokerbot_v7, city H, avatar ATM

Jan (19:31:32 24/06/2009)
speedlimits? first name?

paperorplastic54 (19:31:39 24/06/2009)
Speedlimits Brett

Jan (19:32:56 24/06/2009)
doesnt match

paperorplastic54 (19:33:08 24/06/2009)
Speeedlimits

paperorplastic54 (19:33:11 24/06/2009)
3 e's sorry

Jan (19:33:15 24/06/2009)
ah k

paperorplastic54 (19:35:24 24/06/2009)
ok my end was successful

Jan (19:36:11 24/06/2009)
yeah gimme some seconds

Jan (19:36:26 24/06/2009)
need to deposit but i have lots of action

paperorplastic54 (19:36:32 24/06/2009)
yeah np

Jan (20:02:23 24/06/2009)
meeh

Jan (20:02:31 24/06/2009)
they cancel all my transfer requests

paperorplastic54 (20:02:36 24/06/2009)
weird

Jan (20:02:42 24/06/2009)
yeah

paperorplastic54 (20:02:52 24/06/2009)
you dont have any funds on AP?

Jan (20:02:55 24/06/2009)
i'll talk to the live support

paperorplastic54 (20:02:58 24/06/2009)
ok

Jan (20:03:14 24/06/2009)
i had like 5k but i need to play so i deposit 3k more

paperorplastic54 (20:11:37 24/06/2009)
going to take a shower, let me know what live support says

Jan (20:11:58 24/06/2009)
QWERTZ2: i need to transfer 2k to a friend of mine but my transfers are all cancelled
Rachel: Please note that in order to approve your transfer we need to certify the transaction over the phone.
Rachel: Please resubmit the request and contact us.
QWERTZ2: why that? what do you need to know?
Rachel: We need to confirm the account information.
QWERTZ2: i already sent you my ID and utility bill
QWERTZ2: so you should have everything you need
Rachel: Our policy states that transfers over a $1000 needs to be certify.
QWERTZ2: i cant transfer 500 as well
Rachel: You can transfer $500.00.
QWERTZ2: no i just tried and it got cancelled

paperorplastic54 (20:20:12 24/06/2009)
hey

paperorplastic54 (20:20:21 24/06/2009)
u want to try increments of $500?

Jan (20:21:13 24/06/2009)
they dont allow me to transfer funds until i call them but i dont have time for that bull****. they cancel the 500$-transfers as well

Jan (20:21:17 24/06/2009)
i sent it back on ftp

paperorplastic54 (20:21:29 24/06/2009)
ok

paperorplastic54 (20:21:44 24/06/2009)
thx anyways

Some minutes later:

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Jan (23:15:51 24/06/2009)
hah they finally processed 500

paperorplastic54 (23:15:57 24/06/2009)
haha nice

paperorplastic54 (23:16:01 24/06/2009)
can we still do the transaction

Jan (23:16:12 24/06/2009)
yeah i try to send 3 more

So i already sent back his 2k on FTP but since we traded before several times and because i know he is a winning player i trust him and sent 3k (he asked for 3k instead of 2k after the dialogue above) on AP to his account SPEEEDLIMITS.

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Jan (23:40:24 24/06/2009)
can you please send on ftp when you get a chance?

paperorplastic54 (23:42:45 24/06/2009)
yeah np

paperorplastic54 (23:49:46 24/06/2009)
k sent

Jan (23:58:49 24/06/2009)
to pokerbot_v7, right? don't get anything so far

paperorplastic54 (00:01:13 25/06/2009)
im ******ed

paperorplastic54 (00:01:15 25/06/2009)
sec

Jan (00:09:16 25/06/2009)
u send it to another account?

paperorplastic54 (00:10:37 25/06/2009)
yeah im getting it reversed

paperorplastic54 (00:10:47 25/06/2009)
sry

Jan (00:10:52 25/06/2009)
phew ^^

Jan (00:10:54 25/06/2009)
np

paperorplastic54 (00:10:57 25/06/2009)
will take 5min

paperorplastic54 (00:11:00 25/06/2009)
hopefully

Jan (00:48:41 25/06/2009)
you sent it to QWERTZ2 on ftp?

paperorplastic54 (01:00:42 25/06/2009)
they are reversing the payment now

paperorplastic54 (01:00:49 25/06/2009)
u want me to sent it there or pokerbot?

Jan (01:01:08 25/06/2009)
hm?

paperorplastic54 (01:01:22 25/06/2009)
which account do you want me to send it too

paperorplastic54 (01:01:26 25/06/2009)
i sent it to the wrong one b4

Jan (01:01:38 25/06/2009)
send it to pokerbot_v7 on ftp once you get it back pls

paperorplastic54 (01:01:52 25/06/2009)
ok

paperorplastic54 (01:02:06 25/06/2009)
did u want to do 3k or 2250? cuz ive only received 2250 from you

Jan (01:02:32 25/06/2009)
i'll send another 750 on AP now, ok?

paperorplastic54 (01:02:49 25/06/2009)
just whenever

paperorplastic54 (01:03:02 25/06/2009)
ill let ya know when i get the $, should be soon

Jan (01:21:36 25/06/2009)
i'll go to bed now. gl, later.

paperorplastic54 (01:26:21 25/06/2009)
sry. will def. have it in the morning
I didn't get anything so i sent him some PMs here on 2p2.

Her are his answers:

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Ok here's the deal. When you xfered me the money on AP I had my friend help me out with getting me some $ on Full Tilt. Instead of xfering, which is slow for some reason, I wanted to speed up the process so my friend chip dumped to me.

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FT apparently flagged my account and now my account is under investigation and I cannot transfer or cash out for 48 hours. I'm sorry for this mess, i'll throw you some vig when I get my account unlocked.

me:

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any news? the 48 hours should be over and you should be able to send the funds, right?

him:

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ok everything is squared away.

Nothing is squared away. He still has my 3k. He logged in on 2p2 several times so i am sure he read all my further PMs. He played .5/1 NL on FTP earlier today. I joined some of his tables and tried to talk to him. He just ignored me and kept playing.

Information about him:

Accounts:
CyberGurly on FTP
SPEEEDLIMITS on AP
n0choice on Stars
n0choice7 on bwin

blog: http://www.speedlimitsblog.com/

real name: Brett Mrozowski

He is a winning player, so he def still has the money but he is not willing to pay it back.

Please stack him, slowroll him, tell him and his mum that he is a scammer whenever you get a chance.. he will be in Vegas for the ME.

fy brett, this ain't over.

(mod note: the following is from poster NoahSD, who was also ripped off by Brett)

Brett owes me 1k too. He owed me for coaching for a while, and I completely forgot about it. This thread reminded me, so I PMed him about it. He instaresponded asking how much he owes. I replied saying it was $1k on July 2nd, and I haven't heard from him since.

update: 12/6/09 from NoahSD "Brett still owes me $610 and has stopped speaking to me."

Last edited by Alobar; 12-06-2009 at 04:09 PM. Reason: added more

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06-30-2009 , 08:05 AM

septic

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Edit/MH: See also http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1014

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Doing this to someone like pokerbot who is a stand up guy and always tries to help others is just pathetic.
Grow some balls and pay up speedlimits, this could get ugly! (no, i don't mean anything including physical violence or we...)

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-11-2009 at 07:17 AM.

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06-30-2009 , 08:07 AM

pokerbot_v7

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ty septic

this is him:

Last edited by Alobar; 06-30-2009 at 12:24 PM.

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06-30-2009 , 08:18 AM

pokerbot_v7

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Originally Posted by William F Guile

What's his 2p2 name?

Speedlimits: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/46498/

~4k posts, regged 2006.

DC Vanessa Selbst coached him and he offered coaching to other students. Still can't believe it. I never expected someone who is really involved in the poker community to scam someone.

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06-30-2009 , 09:24 AM

kylephilly

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played this dude on AP before, my first thought was wasn't it too soon to be accusing him? but now that he is viewing this thread and not responding, **** him.

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06-30-2009 , 09:36 AM

pokerbot_v7

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Originally Posted by kylephilly

played this dude on AP before, my first thought was wasn't it too soon to be accusing him? but now that he is viewing this thread and not responding, **** him.

he has my money since wednesday and he lied to me several times.
i should've made that thread earlier but like i said, i don't expected him to scam me and because of that i didn't realize it earlier.

but you are right and i see your point, he has been a reputable member of the poker community so far.

afaik he hasn't play on AP lately but he plays on FTP nearly every day. screenname is CyberGurly.

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06-30-2009 , 09:59 AM

fnx99

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you better pay pokerbot, just look @ hsnl xfer thread he has great references and many friends in the pokerworld.

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06-30-2009 , 10:37 AM

teddyFBI

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That whole interchange is very odd...in that it definitely doesn't read like it was written by someone (Brett) whose intent from the get-go was to scam you. Things started to get shady when he changed all the info on his blog, though, for sure; and him not responding to any of your PMs / caht since then makes it all the more concerning.

Let us know how this works out.

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06-30-2009 , 10:40 AM

diddy!

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GL OP. Hope you get it back. I'll never understand why some people sell their good name for so cheaply. $2250 in this case right? That's just pathetic.

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06-30-2009 , 10:43 AM

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SoUnreal

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Jeez. What a complete piece of ****.

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06-30-2009 , 10:46 AM

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pokerbot_v7

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Originally Posted by teddyFBI

That whole interchange is very odd...in that it definitely doesn't read like it was written by someone (Brett) whose intent from the get-go was to scam you.

Yeah you are right. I am sure he just wanted a normal transfer in the beginning but as he got the chance to scam me he did it. There is a german idiom "Gelegenheit macht Diebe". Should be something like "Opportunity makes the thief" in english (it is 1:1 translated, i hope you get what i try to say).

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Things started to get shady when he changed all the info on his blog, though, for sure; and him not responding to any of your PMs / caht since then makes it all the more concerning.

Let us know how this works out.

I'll keep you all updated.

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06-30-2009 , 10:50 AM

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Vantek

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Wow :/ Why do people (let alone people who have enough brain cells to be winning poker players) do this :/

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06-30-2009 , 10:54 AM

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clickabutton

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Originally Posted by Vantek

Wow :/ Why do people (let alone people who have enough brain cells to be winning poker players) do this :/

I think it might be because of money, I'm not sure tho.

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06-30-2009 , 10:55 AM

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duh

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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7

I never expected someone who is really involved in the poker community to scam someone.

Ever hear of Cornell Fiji?

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06-30-2009 , 11:08 AM

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Vantek

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I think it might be because of money

Well I think it has more to do with persons in question being ******ed.

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06-30-2009 , 11:19 AM

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Gregvenezia

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wow OP hopefully you will get things straightened out

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06-30-2009 , 11:34 AM

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SoUnreal

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There's no way he shows up to the WSOP ME after this.

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07-01-2009 , 11:46 AM

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Speedlimits

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If anyone knows me they will know this is not true. At first I did not want to respond to this but after dragging people I know and care about into this I feel I must.

I changed the information on my blog to protect myself, not to hide anything. Pokerbot has claimed that my silence is my guilt but I wanted to get all of my facts straight before I posted.

No I did not scam anyone out of any money. I have done transfers with multiple people in the past (check references) and also been a member in good standing with the poker community for 3+ years. I have offered free coaching and coached in the past and would not sell all of this for a mere 3k since I have obviously made much more than that. Check my table ratings if you do not believe me.

I do not like putting personal information up in public forums but there is a ton of information missing about pokerbot and his motives/vendettas against me. This has turned into a public spectacle and there are many inconsistencies in pokerbots story.

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07-01-2009 , 11:48 AM

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JHair

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

elaborate.

im a fan of two sides to a story.

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07-01-2009 , 11:58 AM

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Nstomper

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I know I am not a very well known member by the community but I have dealt with pokerbot before and echo the same sentiments as Speedlimits. This is not the first time he has come out with a slander campaign. I will post more specifics when I get home from work.

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07-01-2009 , 12:02 PM

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eastern motors

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

I do not like putting personal information up in public forums but there is a ton of information missing about pokerbot and his motives/vendettas against me. This has turned into a public spectacle and there are many inconsistencies in pokerbots story.

Clearly you are going to have to give us this information to defend yourself or your rep is ruined. No one is just going to take your word.

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07-01-2009 , 12:23 PM

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septic

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Originally Posted by Speedlimits

Whould you mind giving some more detail?
I mean this answer or no answer would have been the same thing...

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07-01-2009 , 12:26 PM

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kylephilly

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Speedlimits,

just show screen shots of the money that you transferred. Have pokerbot confirm. All is right in the world?

Pokerbot, maybe you should provide proof of your transfer too.

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07-01-2009 , 12:27 PM

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Rictus

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Pics or ban.

Oh, wait...

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07-01-2009 , 12:36 PM

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pokerbot_v7

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Originally Posted by Nstomper

lol

you are so obv his friend.

this your very first post on 2p2: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=49

you comment on speedlimit's 200k-hands graph.

dude it is so obv that you are his friend. do you think i am / we are that dumb?

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