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04-22-2010 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiriath
Ive given up following this tread.

Ive got a few pieces of advice for OP though.

From what I gather this guy scammed you for 30k, fessed up to it, cant pay you back now, but wants to pay you back in small pieces of 500?

First of all, I dont think the police is gonna do **** about it, im not even sure any of what he did is considered illegal if he tells hes story right. At most he will get a slap on the wrist, and you will still be down 30k.

So, with that being said, you need to consider how far your willing to go to get your money back, and then your going to need to make a point about this to the scammer. He NEEEDS to understand that your serious. This kinda ppl will do just about ANYTHING to avoid paying, stalling, whatever, and as soon as he does any of that crap, you need to be ready to let the hammer drop. Thats the only way you will ever see any of your money again.

Im talking from experience collecting debt from a few out of control gamblers, its not pretty, but with the right attitude, it can be fun.

Good luck, with whatever you chose to do about this.
Scammer fell down some stairs, isn't that right scammer? Yeah yeah... stairs.
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04-22-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rakrul
And you can prove this how?
dude havent't you watched "The usual suspects"? Roger "Verbal" Kint IS "Keyser Soze" hence DP IS KillBauer, haven't you learned anything? ...GOSH!
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04-22-2010 , 03:02 PM
read this entire thing. i dont think ull get any monies ever, unless u do something quick
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04-22-2010 , 04:03 PM
Scam him! You scammed him for $500 and still reported him to police! Rescammed imo.
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04-22-2010 , 04:20 PM
wow i got contacted by a few of these guys i always felt it was abit fishy and i backed out of some staking deals
crazy!!!
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04-22-2010 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pattye111
through a logical thought process and not being ******ed
I wouldn't stake my life on the last part (pun inteded)...
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04-22-2010 , 05:37 PM
It really sucks how people can do this. Basically every scenario I go into like this, I always go into it thinking "I would never scam somebody, I am not going to scam this person, but is he going to scam me? If he's going to scam me, maybe I just shouldn't do it." and then the anxiety starts coming and I end up backing out of the deal. This just confirms that you can't trust the majority of people without extreme sources to confirm their reputability when you're dealing with non-contract deals online. Really terrible and I'm very sorry to hear this. However, as you are only 18 and making this much cash, I can only assume that one day 30k will be a spit in the ocean for you. :P
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04-22-2010 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DPred123
I have done nothing wrong in my eyes, other than my 2+2 account got in wrong hands, and that I was acting like a dbag in the convo with op
I read all of your prop bet thread and when people was calling you a dbag i thought thats kinda out of order

But after reading that convo ffs man you was a total **** fair enough you may not give a **** what i think or most of 2+2 but come on show a bit of class and if you need help in the future i hope someone tells you to gtfo and takes the ****
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04-22-2010 , 06:35 PM
IFS is a good kid who's considerate enough to care about people beyond himself. When you're still young usually there's a tendency to expect people to act with similar courtesy. Any other behaviour doesn't seem logical.. unfortunately people are radically different, some people completely lack standard human emotions- it's just something that you learn through experience, they don't teach this **** in school. Killbauer is no doubt suffering from many psychological disorders... but I would not be surprised if some of the people ITT who are jumping on IFS with jackass comments have a few of their own.. although you are probably too stupid to come up with a scam, and not interesting enough to befriend.

donkpredator is a complete and utter dickwad with little regard for other people, there's no surprise to me that he was getting along as best friends with the scammer.
No, money isn't everything but the complete lack of ethics and moral behind what killbauer did should be enough- for any warmblooded man to be completely disgusted by.

as for killbauer he won't change. even people who get aggressive therapy for these sort of mental issues have a low rate improving.

I doubt this is the end of the story because the likeliness of these incremental payments continuing is near zilch. While it is quite possible and true that the scammer intends well for the moment (he did self profess himself as bipolar), he most liekly will turn and show his other face the next day (if he isn't playing some sorta angle already with these payments)

Chances are that he's working a scam on some other language forum as we speak..
He speaks norwegian so he can work norwegian, swedish and danish poker communities.

This is most likely just a temporary setback for a reptillian mother****er. There's just a serious cluster**** of psychology in this story.

Money is not everything, but life is.. and people get killed every damn day for way less than 30k...

Again with the temporary setback but for IFS
He may lack some street smarts due to youth but the kid has way more booksmarts than most people here & is pretty much a poker genius. I won't be surprised when I see him hitting tables up for 30k a week.

Last edited by MrDrTurtleRick; 04-22-2010 at 06:44 PM.
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04-22-2010 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDrTurtleRick
He speaks norwegian so [...]
Do we have any proof of this? I haven't seen a single Norwegian word from him. Also, it should be easy enough to confirm if he worked in/with iPoker.

Secondly if IFS has his passport info, what nationality is he? He should also be able to confirm that dpred isn't killbauer so maybe some of the tards here finally realize that.
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04-22-2010 , 07:11 PM
DP what was the skype name he contacted you bye?
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04-22-2010 , 07:50 PM
Lol at DP wanting an apology. If its even the real him.
Dudes sick good at plo but you were a ****ing douche in the chat with sweden.
And you're a prick, hopefully karma will sort you out more thank the 6k already - and yes Im a broke joke but at least I'm a reasonably good hearted honest guy.
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04-23-2010 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rakrul
Do we have any proof of this? I haven't seen a single Norwegian word from him. Also, it should be easy enough to confirm if he worked in/with iPoker.

Secondly if IFS has his passport info, what nationality is he? He should also be able to confirm that dpred isn't killbauer so maybe some of the tards here finally realize that.
Op said he spoke norwegian a few time with him
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04-23-2010 , 04:54 AM
OP if I ship the Sunday milly I will ship u 10% of ur losses. So you got a .000000000000000001% chance of recouping 3k...which is probably greater than the chances of scamer/scumer repaying it.

Sick beat.
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04-23-2010 , 05:05 AM
I love 2+2

epic first thread to read

Sorry for your loss OP but if you don't oust scammer, your story is either greatly exaggerated or you're very very very stupid
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04-23-2010 , 06:22 AM
someone added me on on aim called donkpredator after i posted in the coaching forum he offered plo coaching to me
i seriously think he is a scammer too.

if theslaughter is the real donkpredator why doesnt he jump in and say something
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04-23-2010 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wigan rl
Op said he spoke norwegian a few time with him
Yes and I would like to see that to see if it's google translate or actual nordspeak.
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04-23-2010 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Emaa
someone added me on on aim called donkpredator after i posted in the coaching forum he offered plo coaching to me
i seriously think he is a scammer too.

if theslaughter is the real donkpredator why doesnt he jump in and say something
Because his account is banned (he loaned it to killbauer)... DonkPredator dont do coaching and never has. And he is the guy who posted under Dpred123 or something like that. He posts on a norwegian pokerforum also, so all the information fits his posts.
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04-23-2010 , 10:01 AM
Talked to IFS several times on MSN and done multiple trades - very good guy. Good luck recovering your money and bankroll Oscar
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04-23-2010 , 11:11 AM


I imagine oscar's pretty grouchy right about now
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04-23-2010 , 02:58 PM
Nah, not really. Easy won, easy lost. It's just money. Or to be honest, it's not even money. It's just numbers on a screen to me. The only things that hurt is the fact that he betrayed me like that, my ego, and the fact that I have to play 100nl :/
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04-23-2010 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jomaha8
OP if I ship the Sunday milly I will ship u 10% of ur losses. So you got a .000000000000000001% chance of recouping 3k...which is probably greater than the chances of scamer/scumer repaying it.

Sick beat.
Thanks, I'll be rooting for you
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04-23-2010 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePotcher
I love 2+2

epic first thread to read

Sorry for your loss OP but if you don't oust scammer, your story is either greatly exaggerated or you're very very very stupid
unfortunally not exaggerated. Confirmed very very very stupid.
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04-23-2010 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
unfortunally not exaggerated. Confirmed very very very stupid.
Meh. It isn't your fault OP. This wouldn't be such a common story if you were the exceptionally dumb person. You just need to take a look at things objectively and think about the big picture. Best of luck.
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04-23-2010 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rakrul
Yes and I would like to see that to see if it's google translate or actual nordspeak.
since ifs is from sweden it's easy for him to spot fake norwegian.
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