[QUOTE=fidstar-poker;57091088]It was pretty clear I don't play online poker anymore. I mean why would I join WPN with all the superusers?
[QUOTE=tilter29;57091038]I thought this was evidence because if there are players that can see my cards, then they are not going to 3-bet me when I have AA or KK.
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Okay. You are still yet to show me that no one has 3 bet you. But lets say you are correct. No one has 3 bet you when you have AA or KK. The only thing that this may prove is that 90% of people are super users. Because only super-users would be making their decisions based on the cards you have. You have mentioned you don't think this is the case.
Let's say you believe that maybe 5% of people are superusers (which seems very high). Well, then the other 95% would be 3-betting you normally wouldn't they?
So, assume you think you should be getting 3-bet at a 25% rate. If 5% (?) are super-users, this would only drop to about 22%. Because only the super-users would know. Realistically, your overall stats would not change a lot based on super-users. And remember 5% is probably high. It would be more likely a maximum of 1% you would think (if it was actually true).
Does this make sense?
So, as I mentioned above. You haven't shown anything that shows a superuser (unless you believe that 90%+ of people are super-users).
There's a lot of ramblings in the above. Actually post some real information on specific users if you think they are super-users. Not generic made up hands you have above.
I'm too lazy to find it, but search for that thread the Mike referenced above for some idea on what to do.
Point well taken, will keep it short. I try to share all my thoughts and reasoning to avoid confusion. This comes from constantly being put on the defensive because the only responses are always negative and from trolls. The mods delete the others.
I don't know why you say that I haven't provided any proof that I didn't get 3-bet. Did you see the previous post I made where I took screenshots of the filter?
https://imgur.com/a/8t9qVUG
I have a lot of players in my database that have a river call effeciency that is 2, 3 and a couple were even 5. 1 is break even so anything over 1 is considered good and 1.5 I believe is ideal.
If I had to put a % on how many players, then I would guess 30% to 50% for Blitz and 99% for non-Blitz.
I don't know what is true but I wanted to test it out again today and I used a VPN and a new account. I found the same instances that kept coming up that just can't be coincedences. None of my bluffs worked, same accounts are impossible to beat in a pot, when I raise with small pairs, I am getting 3-bet almost every time. I have given up on bluffing because it NEVER works, and I mean NEVER. I consider blockers, my range, their range, previous streets, my image, position, board texture and runout, but it doesn't matter because if you bluff then it will get called.
My c-bets were raised a lot when I had air or just a draw and when I made top pair or better, then they check fold. I flopped 4 sets today and every time I called a preflop 3-bet and then they just check folded everytime but when I miss, then they barrel.
Here are some links to Joey Ingram's Interview with WPN CEO Phil Nagy and Joey made the same claims that I did.
Joey Ingram Phil Nagy interview
--->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrtu-7aiMlU&t=6703s<------
Joey Ingram Video Accusing WPN of Having Cheaters and Superusers
---->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHP2F9auRco&t=90<-------
Video of a player sitting down at a table, it filling up, and then quickly breaking up right after he sits out. They also follow him from table to table.
------>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogee6J9ZUY<------
It's also worth a look to read the comments on those videos. I'm not the only one making these claims. The mods aren't able to delete or move them so you can get a better idea of true public opinion and not just what the mods allow to be seen and read here.